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tell us about jesse ventura's time as governor of minnesota. >> jesse ventura was a pretty remarkableyer politically. he came out of wrestling, had a bit of a name. but game mayor of the town where he lived in and by most accounts was a credible mayor. he decided to run for governor. and everybody wrote him off. that was in ancient history. back when campaigns actually in some places were publicly financed and candidates participated in lots of debates. it was a lot more down home, and ventura did great in the debates. he did so well, he beat a guy named hump friday in minnesota. got into the governorship, from there on it wasn't as good. he was not a terrible governor in every sense, there are some things that he did reasonably well, but his governorship ended up as a one-term affair, and he exited it at the end of it, i think a lot of people thought at that point he was pretty well done with politics. most of the signals he's sent have been that he's been pretty much done with politics. i think this trump flirtation -- i'd be a little cautious about it, i am entertained by some of t

if they're successful, this won't just affect jesse ventura, this will affect everybody. it will become a business for the media to defame and make money at it. and, by the way, just so you know, anderson cooper owes me an apology because the widow has not -- it hasn't cost her one cent. everything has been paid for by mutual insurance. and, everything, if there's a settlement or any award will be paid by an insurance company. that was misrepresented by the media to make me look like the villain. >> by the way, i'll let you and anderson deal with that between you two. i'm sure he'll have you on his show. >> well, i'm just waiting for his apology. i like to throw it out to him. that he owes me an apology. >> all right. well, i'm sure anderson will deal with that.

then jenee jesse ventura had a conversation with red mccomb. >> i looked at red and said red away did you need to see me for? i'm sure a land owner is out there you can build a stadium. you don't need my approval. >> in favor of spending government money to build the new stadium. >> the public relations value and the day-to-day plugging of your city, you can't put a value on, because there's no other model or any other product to where you can get that. but on sports you get it every day, the year round. so of course it's worth it. it's more than worth it. it is the best value in the world. >> ventura says he told mccombs if he wanted a new stadium he could raise ticket prices to pay for it. >> i looked at him and said red, let me tell you something. my wife the first lady of minnesota she doesn't give a rat's ass about viking football and there are a lot of others who don't care about it. you are telling me you can't charge your fans but can you go to the people and get the money to build the stadium? i said don't let the door hit you in the ass when you go out. >> it would take more

jesse ventura had a meeting with red mccombs. >> he had nothing. he looked at me with that texas drawl and said governor, i need a new stadium. i thought to myself, i'm going to have fun with this. i said red, why do you need to see me for? i'm sure there's a land owner out there who will sell you some land, go ahead you don't need my approval. >> the public relations value, and the day-to-day plugging of your city, you can't put a value on, because there's no other model or any other product to where you can get that. but on sports you get it everyday the year round. so of course it's worth it. it's more than worth it. it is the best value in the world! >> ventura said he told mccombs if he wanted a new stadium he can raise dollars to take for it. >> i told him let me tell you something, my wife, the first lady of minnesota doesn't give a rat's ass about football. you are telling me you can't charge your fans but you can go to these people and reach in their wallet and make them pay so you get a new stadium? i said don't let the door hit you in th

was not pleased with the book jesse ventura who filed suit against kyle and won. as awarded a $1.8 million. in the book kile wrote about a bar fight against a man who hated the s.e.a.l.s and later said it was ventura and now, here to explain is governor ventura. i have read the brief, and floyd abrams and this guy is the dean of first amendment lawyers in the united states, and why have these 33 media outlets have all come in on the case on the other side? >> well, i guess they want the ability to defame people and make money. they want to be able to profit from wrongdoing. they feel that when they defame you, which michael, as you know, the bar is already extremely high in a defamation case. how overwhelming the evidence must have been to beat a deceased war veteran and his widow. it was immense that showed it never happened. and i won overwhelmingly. they don't like the fact that there is a thing called unjust enrichment where if you defame somebody and profit from that defamation, the defendant has the right to, or the plaintiff in my case, has the right to have

. >>> well, you can count former minnesota governor jesse ventura as supporter of donald trump. ventura said if trump wins the republican nomination, he's open to running with him as voice president. the former pro wrestler support for trump comes despite some major political differences, trump has taken a very hard-line stands on immigration, ventura, who lives in mexico, has actually criticized trump for those remarks. >>> right now we want to talk about deflate gate. now led to some sketches, people calling this now sketch gate, after patriots quarterback tom brady appeared in new york courthouse wednesday. >> he was there asset lment talks with commissioner roger goodel. no decision but did get some people talking. a sketch artist version of his appearance is raising some eyebrows. some are saying that brady looks more like a village from scoop i do than four time superbowl champ. the sketch artist, jane rosenberg, is responding to that criticism. >> now, i apologize for not making him look pretty enough to the world, and all those fans of tom brady, very good looking guy, b

on the republican side, former minnesota governor jesse ventura says he would consider being donald trump'snning made if asked. the one time pro wrestler won the governor's seat as an independent back in 1998. then he decided not to run for re-election. >> quite a ticket, huh? >>> former president jimmy carter says he is about to begin treatment for cancer. cbs reporter hannah daniels tells us what's known so far about mr. carter's condition. >>> reporter: former president jimmy carter will soon begin treatment at emory healthcare in atlanta to tackle an undisclosed form of cancer he says is now in other parts of his body. the diagnosis came after recent surgery to remove a small mass from his liver. the statement did not say whether carter's cancer began in the liver or spread there from another part of the body. the 90-year-old has a family history of pancreatic cancer. his three siblings and father died from it. >> obviously, we would be concerned about that family history. but each situation has to be taken on its own merits. >> reporter: president obama spoke with president carder on t

i am from a state where jesse ventura got elected governor. in a world where the kardashians seem to be so popular for mysterious reasons. you never know. especially in politics. host: while we are talking about politics, you mentioned your members are well aware there will be integrated topic on the campaign trail. one person doing that robustly is bernie sanders. he has been attracting huge crowds. he wants to rangers glass-steagall. why the not a good idea? tim: if you look of the companies that triggered the crisis in 2008, the lehman --thers, where stearns countrywide. these were not baked, integrated, large banking bothtutions that had robust firms and practices. if you read around the tape and reinstated glass-steagall, that would not have changed the footprint of the lehman brothers, a bear stern, of countrywide. of aig that went belly up and causing problems. arounds a revisionism avoiding the crisis and all of the awful aftermath if we had glass-steagall and place. that is not the cut line where the crisis started. >> how do you thin

i am from a state where jesse ventura got elected governor. in a world where the kardashians seem to be so popular for mysterious reasons. you never know especially in politics. host: while we are talking about presidential politics, you suggested that your members are well aware there will be integrated topic on the campaign trail. one person doing that robustly is bernie sanders. he has been attracting huge crowds. the big applause line of his is reinstitution of glass-steagall. why the not a good idea? tim: if you look of the companies that triggered the crisis in 2008, the lehman brothers, countrywide. these weren't big, integrated large banking institutions that had both robust investment practices firms and banking. if you read around the table that we are going to reinstate glass-steagall, that would not have changed the footprint of the lehman brothers, of bear stern, or countrywide. it would not have changed the footprint of the unit at aig that went belly up and causing problems. there is a revisionism around avoiding the crisis and

they have experience of voting for a big peterson like that, jesse ventura, it was a disaster and hecht- he could not work with others. it brings up the question if whether we need a ceo in the office. our founders setup co-equal branches of the government. we have a president who acts like a dictator and we don't like it. do republicans really want to vote in somebody like this? somebody who can't work with others? somebody who they always see the immigration bill is bringing up things that are unconstitutional, like the birthright situation. this is not someone who looks at things practically and works well with others. >> mark halburn has gone on the record saying donald trump, no matter what happens, he changed the scope of this race. listen: >> trump may not end up as the nominee but he changed the race. not just leading but coming to the fair. i have been there with obama at the peak and sarah palin as well. the reception wasn't just about celebrity status. people were yelling things to him with passion. save us. you are the only one who can stop hillary. thank you for making amer

do you see any historical analogies, perhaps jesse ventura or ross perreault, and that was a generallection, but where do you see this historically? >> i have a better one for you. berry goldwater in 1964. he was a very conservative republican, considered far too right-wing to get the no, ma'am makes -- nomination. like donald trump he was accused of saying outrageous things. and yet there were people who would walk through walls for barry goldwater, and the beat the establishment candidate of his time, governor nelson rockefeller or new york who like jeb bush or scott walker, had a certain appeal, but nobody, but nobody was willing to walk through brick walls for nelson rockefeller and nobody is going to walk through rick walls for jeb bush. >> a lot of people would walk through brick walls for bernie sanders. and what does that mean? >> we're in an anti establishment mood, because the government isn't addressing our problems. we have a largely paralyzed government here in washington. and that is why you see bernie sanders getting such large and enthusiastic crowds, because he is sa

and jesse ventura is supporting donald trump. he even said he would serve as his vp. >> that would be a ticket. >>> san francisco police got people drunk today as part of hands on training. what they could learn after giving them alcohol. >> it is just a mall but livermore expects it to be a destination for shoppers if years to -- shoppers for years to come. >> and a day after this massive explosion, we are seeing how much damage it caused to buildings all over this chinese port city. most people in the community recognize the blue trucks as pg&e. my truck is something new... it's an 811 truck. when you call 811, i come out to your house and i mark out our gas lines and our electric lines to make sure that you don't hit them when you're digging. 811 is a free service. i'm passionate about it because every time i go on the street i think about my own kids. they're the reason that i want to protect our community and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then i'll drive it every d

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reform party governor of minnesota said he would happily tag team the presidential nominee in 2016 jesse ventura is who i'm talking about. he told cnn that he is the voice of the independent voter and thus would be an asset to candidates running outside the mainstream. donald trump, for instance. but here's the weird part. he wouldn't just run with donald trump. listen here. >> i didn't necessarily say i want to run with him. we have differences of opinions on many issues. but i think donald trump is wonderful that he's shaking the system toer core. we have a government in washington that's broken clearly and it needs to be shaken up and trump is doing that and so is bernie sanders. >> that's right, he mentioned bernie sanders. he even said he would be interested there considering that kind of a ticket. the juror says he sees great parallels between his campaigns and those of both sanders and trump. so far neither man has commented publicly on venturas overture to both of them -- if that's what we can call it. cnn will host three republican debates, the first is september, in october the first d

there are instances in the past when jesse ventura was elected governor, a lot of people voted that never voted before and i bet the same thing with ross perot. the poll that you put up, which i find fascinating. if you take trump's number and add them to ben carson's number, his campaign slogan is not make america again but heal and revive america. same sentiments. you add it together and you have 4 0%. as donald trump would say that's huge, huge, almost half of the republican party wants one of these type of candidate. that spells big trouble for jeb bush and the establishment. >> if you add ted cruz and mike huckabee to that it is 50 and that's what the polls have been showing on this. i was struck by something david duke said. he may be speaking for a lot of people in the 28%. he says although we can't trust him to do what he says, the other republican candidates won't even say what he says. they really want to hear donald trump say what he says. >> well, he's incredibly entertaining and -- i do think that it is a long way before anyone goes to the polls. i think i would still bet tha

you look in the past, you can see certain parallels when minnesota elected an ex-pro wrestler jesse ventura as its governor and arnold schwarzenegger, why did they do that? they did it for a couple reasons. there was a strong amount of discontent with things as usual and they saw something unusual. they saw a power they didn't know they had. when ventura got enough money to put on ads, when he qualified for the debates, they realized in minnesota, hey, we can do this. when the recall of governor gray davis actually made the ballot, thanks to a multimillionaire congressman who himself wanted to be governor, voters said we don't like this governor. we're ticked off at the electricity rates, we can do something about it. my point is we don't know yet about donald. >> you have all of these very smart political reporters and analysts and commentators and they are united in the belief that donald trump is not going to be the republican nominee. they know this history that you laid out as well as anybody. it's a problem they don't talk to voters enough or tuned into the fact that usual rules might

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having come from a state where jesse ventura got elected governor, in a world where the kardashians seem to be so popular for mysterious reasons, you never really know. especially politics. >> you can hear the former minnesota governor plenty talk -- governor pawlenty talk more about the presidential race on newsmakers. later will be live from the campaign trail with republican presidential candidate ben carson's. speaking at the candidate's soapbox at around 5:00 p.m. et. shortly after that you will hear from another presidential candidate, george pataki. both speeches will be live here on c-span. reverend john richard bryant is senior bishop at charleston south carolina's ame church. recently at the national press club in washington dc where he spoke about race relations and gun violence. this is an hour. monthsas been almost two since the mass shooting. nine worshipers including the pastor were killed during a inside thee study historic mother emanuel african methodist it piscopo -- episcopal church. the bishop called the nation to prayer and barely 24 hours later there was a vigil in

he's the jesse ventura of politics, and he's having a great time wrestling with his gop rivals. >> michelle, trump is at 22% in iowa. now, is this bubble going to burst? >> of course this bubble is going to burst at some point. i mean, right now, the only people paying attention to politics are the people who are really fired up about something. and donald trump is running a campaign entirely aimed at the gut. he wants people to be angry just like he's angry. they're responding to his demagogue demagoguery, but at some point, everybody will pay attention and the numbers will rationalize. the question s at that point, does he then decide to run an independent candidacy, and that could be real trouble for his opponents. >> now, amy, before i get you on the independent candidacy, the fact is that he's faced another question, that he's not a real conservative. here's how he answered that question last night. >> to those that doubt your conservativism, explain the transition. how did you grow into a conservative? >> it's sort of easy to explain. one of the things i always start with, ronald reag

i keep describing him as the jesse ventura of politics. and as your reporter was saying, new hampshire voters, they are very -- they are notorious and famous for wanting politicians to address them directly. to campaign to each and every person to try to win their vote. >> and amy was just referencing the clinton campaign and that they should be taking this seriously. do you as well see that at this stage the clinton campaign should be worried about how much donald trump has been able to narrow that gap? and we're still months away from any actual voting but should they be at least concerned? >> i've always been wone to believe that when it is early out you can't make definitive conclusions. there are signs you can glean from and adjust your strategy based on your campaign. so i do think former senator clinton should be looking at some of these trends and i don't think she should be worried so much about donald trump as she should be about her support within the party. i think she needs to be focusing on creating greater energy within the

. >> didn't you elect jesse ventura? >> we did. ump phenomena seems a lot like the jesse phenomena in minnesota. you've got these two family patriarchs on the left and the right, the bush and the clinton that are stereotypical politicians, and then you've got this guy that's anything but. that's kind of what happened here in minnesota. no one thought that jesse would ever get elected and he ended up winning. >> bowas and all. and then you had around, too. greg davis was like some well-established guy, and the next thing you know, the terminator was -- so who knows, right? >> we had the same thing here in minnesota for governorship. two well-established political -- and then we had jesse ventura. i think it's happening on the republican party as well. >> yeah, you hope so. knowing you. thanks, paulsen. see you later. >> thanks. >>> when we return, bill daly has worked on both wall street and at the white house. everybody's been in wall street and politics these days. chief of staff to president obama. joins us after the break with re

. >>> apparently $1.8 million jesse ventura won for suing chris kyle isn't enough.mer minnesota governor says the money is meaningless because insurance covered the judgment for kyle's widow taya. telling "high times magazine." they ain't out one quick el. i'm out three quarters of a million dollars referencing court cost. the former pro wrestler continues calling kyle a liar. kyle was shot two years ago by a veteran suffering ptsd. >>> tattling to your mommy and daddy if you're caught drinking. parents will be called if the first violation includes property damage, dui or they need some sort of medical help. >>> incredible images after a surfer narrowly escapes a shark attack. >> it seems surreal like it didn't really happen. seems very surreal at this point. >> do you see the bike mark in her board? she was surfing in california when a great white shark swam under her board and chomped down. she jumped off the board before another surfer came to help. the the damage was luckily only to the board and not her arm or leg. >> i would frame that at great expense, hang

almost like arnold schwarzenegger when he ran here in california or jesse ventura when he was an entertainersorts as a wrestler in minnesota. a lot of bad news for governor jeb bush who i think when you hear trump keep saying he's a low-energy guy, it's like when they went after governor bush's dad a couple of years ago and called him a wimp. i think there's a risk that that starts to stick and raise larger questions and you saw governor bush push back, showing a lot of energy trying to dispel that sense. >> you say the word entertainer describing trump and it brings me back to something i read. amy walker essentially said, trump is the guy you'd have a summer fling with, the guy riding the motorcycle and jeb bush is the one who your parents want you to marry. marinate on that. let me stay with you. ouch. that's not a great sound. hillary clinton went after several republican candidates, specifically on women issues. marco rubio is against abortion even in the case of rape, kasich banned rape crisis centers. and then she made this comparison. listen. >> extreme views about women, we expect t

former professional wrestler and governor of minnesota jesse ventura. i believe it was the body. now it's the mind. >> right. >> you know what's good about this team? jesse doesn't compete with donald's hair. >> nice to see his hair through the years, how it's changed. >> he is pulling for trump to win, having his name on the ticket would help bring in votes. >> if donald trump were to ask me to be his running mate i would give it consideration. anything to break up the status quo of this country. >> trump is leading polls and has been for a month now for the republican presidential nomination. >>> a big time warm up is coming our way. here is a live shot from the bay bridge. low lying clouds are hanging around a little bit. we have team coverage of this warm up around the bin when kron 4 news continues. ♪ ♪ (vo) you can pass down a subaru forester. (dad) she's all yours. (vo) but you get to keep the memories. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. feduring sleep train's sundaytriple choice sale. to save big for a limited time, you can choose up to 48 months interest-free finan

he's basically jesse ventura with a billion dollars. >> you know, the scarier group of women are theho believes that even if the case of rape or incest, that a woman should -- you've got to look at these people's -- >> dana? >> that's an excellent point by judy. what i've actually been hearing by some republican activists in the days after the debate is that on -- never mind kind of the personal issue that he got in with megyn kelly and so forth, but just on the issues, the issue of abortion, for example, that judy was just talking about, scott walker and marco rubio in the eyes of some republicans i've talked to, their position not wanting any exceptions of a ban on abortion, for any reason, whether it's the health of a woman, rape or incest or so forth makes then unelectable and donald trump is not there. he said to chris cuomo that he very much supports it for those reasons. >> honestly, i'm going to butt in here for a second and then -- >> go ahead. and then i have another question. >> okay. just really quick, we're not looking for a priest or a pastor. we're looking for a presid

. >> i think of him as jesse ventura with money.u like pro-wrestling, you probably loved donald trump last night and cheering him on with all of his bluster and bombast. i thought donald trump crossed the line with those remarks a long time ago when he first said those things about rosie o'donnell. unfortunately, i have to say his comeback last night was effective. but when he got personal with megyn kelly about not treating her so nicely, a lot of the audience b 0oed. they didn't like that. so, you know, trump supporters, they're passionate about him, standing up for the little guy and them. even if that means standing up to i guess rosie o'donnell? >> yeah, well, reaction in the audience to that also discouraging because of the way that it was landing a joke against rosie o'donnell. who happened to be at hamilton the musical, the opening of that here in new york last night. taking on politics a different way on broadway for her. so not watching the debate. jonathan, i'm just getting a reco report that a record 24 million people tu

>> yeah, remember i come from a state where jesse ventura got elected governor so i've seen a phenomenon before. people like populism. they somebody that is giving a fist or worse to the establishment, to the people who are goofed up the country, goofed up the party. he has become even though he's a multi, multibillionaire the populous voice in this race. it's like fireworks. you can't not watch it. you can't not look away. it's interesting. entertaining. good marketer. i think the next phase of this for him is can he maintain that brand and that feel but then convince the rest of the party and the rest of the country that they want to entrust, for example, the united states military to him. he's a very capable person but i think there's a second phase for donald trump coming that he's going to have to rise to and i think that's going to be very important fork in the road for him. >> one with the question of policy and seeing where he stands on those all important crucial issues. i want to show you numbers from bloomberg's poll also on today. shows which demographics trump leads in. as y

i come from a state where jesse ventura was elected governor, and the kardashians seem to be so popularor mysterious reasons. you never know. especially in politics. who knows awlenty thing or two about running for president, he did so in 2012, now heading the financial services roundtable here in d.c. on today'st "newsmakers" program. you can watch that after "the washington journal" here on c-span and listen to it on c-span radio. we want to welcome back christopher farrell. he is investigative and research director for judicial watch, which is what? guest: our mission is to grow up .- to promote transparency we do that by using the freedom of information act at the federal level and state level. host: you have been using that to go after hillary clinton's records. some new developments now that the fbi has the server and the e-mails. why is it such an important ?ssue jek guest: we have 3400 freedom of pendingion act requests on the operations of government. what happens, what the government is or isn't doing. of that universe, we have about 18 lawsuits that we filed because we need t

i deprom a state where jesse ventura got elect governor narcotics world where the kardashians are, youw, seem to be so popular for mysterious reasons. you know, you never know. you never really know, especially in politics. host: and that was former republican minnesota governor tim pawlenty, our guest on "news makers" this week. if you want to check out the entire interview, it airs tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. eastern, and then again at 6:00 p.m. in our last 40 minutes of the "washington journal" this morning, our phones are open. we're talking about campaign 2016 and the early winners and losers. lines for republicans, democrats, independents, and if you're outside the u.s., the line for you as well. you can start dialing in. we want to hear your take on who won the very early part of the contest of 2016, or who's been the unexpected loser of the early 2016 contest. as we said, donald trump, the reality tv star and businessman, appeared at a new hampshire town hall last night and is getting a lot of attention for some of his comments that he made. if you want to watch that entire town hal

how about jesse ventura. >> hold on.l decades writing, thinking about, talking about big issues. >> minnesota, this guy came along -- >> we have a state this crazy -- >> professional wrestler. >> we do -- >> arnold schwarzenegger. >> there are a lot of examples of these kind of celebrity phenomenon candidates getting elected in statewide races. that happens all the time in this country. it's never happened at the presidential level. i think the voters, both the primary electorate and general electorate voters, are more discerning about who they elect as commander in chief. >> we didn't elect a celebrity in 2008. >> he was a celebrity too but serving the united states senate, served in the illinois state legislature. i'm not defending obama but i'm saying we don't typically elect people to president who never served in elected office let alone have the background of a donald trump. >> what strikes me is on the right there are people who have disavowed donald trump. wall street editorial board totally disavowed him. on the

he might be more like jesse ventura or arnold schwarzenegger where he may be bringing in people who never he might expand past that. >> you go to iowa and new hampshire, the first two, obviously, democrats can caucus and republican caucuses. new hampshire, obviously, you can cross over as well. is it possible that actually donald trump's numbers are being understated in august 2015? >> certainly possible. he has shown a pretty fast growth in his poll numbers. we could see these continue to grow, especially since independents can vote in either primary in new hampshire. kind of hard to peg down what they're going to do. >> what about in ohio? john kasich a favorite son of people in ohio. also the republican establishment, and some people in the media seem to like him. any evidence he can connect with the base in a meaningful way? >> it's kind of tough to say. i mean, he is fairly popular here in ohio, but he hasn't been getting a ton of traction in the early primary states. still early. he just entered the race, but as affright now, he's not catching fire. >> i want to ask you, jeremy, als