is the goal as clear as jessica matthews says? is the policy intact? >> well, i think there continues to be some straddle between the counter-terrorism goal of stopping the al qaeda safe havens in afghanistan, but the president did say our goals is to reverse the momentum of the taliban. he said that today. general petraeus' dilemma will be how to do that. i think we all would say, looking at what's happened to date, that the strategy is not going as well as people had hoped. the offensive in hel munprovince and marjah has had very little success. those are the kinds of things that general petraeus is going to have to sort out. hopefully he will be able-- speaking to elliot's point-- to be able to get a greater degree of cooperation and concert among this group. >> i think the real danger here is that the -- general petraeus, of course, is the primary author of the counter-insurgency, the coin strategy, that mcchrystal was carrying out. and what this whole incident does is it kind of obsecures the in fact, as david says, it's not going well. and the co

we don't want to overreact. >> brown: jessica stern, you've looked at this a lat-- a lot.the internet allows law enforcement to watch what's going on. what issues does it raise for law enforcement? >> well, there are pros and cons both for the terrorists and for law enforcement. it does enable law enforcement authorities and scholars to monitor how terrorists are thinking, how they are recruiting. who they're trying to go after. it's possible to actually converse with them as a colleague of mine jarrett brackman does. but we cannot do what, for example, the saudi government does. the saudi government directly engages youth who are active in jihadi chatrooms. we-- our government really can't do that. >> brown: well, jessica stern, staying with you, what kind of efforts are there, if any. and i don't know how possible this is to reach these young people who might be tempted by foreign terror groups. >> well, one thing to remember is that these are generally young men so far. and the people who are most concerned about young men, for example, joining al-shabob in somalia are

your set-up piece mentioned when jessica, the little baby jessica was in the well in texas. it was during prime time, during the evening hours. the broadcast networks went p went quickly with a bulletin to say this story was going on. then they went back to their normal programming. people switched to cnn. we saw a gigantic climb in our ratings. people saw us stay with the story and learned when there was a big story cnn would stay when the broadcast nets would leave and go back to programming. that was the big turning point for us. the major turning point was the gulf war one when we had three reporters, a presence in baghdad and the other networks did not. >> brown: matea gold, cnn helped create cable news. it helped define the kinds of storys that bob was just talking about. but now it's a quite different world, isn't it? how do you define the big change we're in right now? >> in so many ways cnn invented the concept of 24-hour news. that's been aped and imitated all over the world. now it's something that permeates i think our daily existence. you no longer need to turn

." >> and freelance journalist jessica stone traveled to haiti in april to talk to aid workers about the aftermath of the january earthquake, reconstruction efforts, and preparations being made for the rainy and hurricane season. approximately 230,000 haitians died as a result of the earthquake, and more than 2 million are displaced. >> when i got to haiti, one of the things that struck me first was the amount of dust in the air, the intensity of the heat. it was a disorganized airport, barry disheveled. coming out to the street, the dust hangs in the air. it has been over three months at this point. you find yourself coughing unexpectedly because of that dust. you drive through the streets and there is no rhyme or reason, visually, for why some buildings stood and some fell. you can have blocks where there are no standing buildings and blocks where there are jagged, tube-like -- like a seven-year- old lost some of her front teeth. it is amazing that in this period of time one of the biggest things you might have seen in terms of progress is that you can drive the streets. there are

. -- is jessica taylor, a reporter with politico.o c-span.org if you want to watch last night's debate. what came out of last night's debate? guest: her violin has one of the later primaries. -- rhode island has one of the later primaries. it is actually not until the timber 14. -- september 14. but they really took a different turns in how they would deal with the state budget crisis and trying to distinguish themselves from one another. host: in last night's debate, how did they differentiate themselves? guest: the treasurer is the democratic front runner right now. he's came out with a small business plan. -- he came out with a small business plan. what is interesting about this race is that someone that good stuff in the wind is the independent candidate, lincoln chafee. he is a long time named in the state. his father was a senator there, too, and was defeated in 2006. he is now trying to see a resurgence and get back into the governor's mansion there. he is proposing to do with the state's budget crisis -- to deal with the stat

jessica taylor, thank you for us this morning. now we want to turn our ttention to the oil spill and is with us, republican representative from is -- a sixth district. tell us where the oil spill is in relation to your district. guest: my district is the capital city of vekton error iyou think of -- that baton rouge. if you think of it like a boot, it is where the races are. -- the laces are. host: how concerned are your parish's about this? guest: it has clearly affted the fisheries and tourism, and now we see this as a third hit the economies of the region. ho and how much ofour area is related to the gas and oil industry? guest: if we are just going to speak of the deep water of rigs are going to be affected by the matorium, i'm told ththat there are 25 deepwater rig jobs. and each of those has four or five spin-off jobs. the deepwater rate droprig jobse high-payg position. we say there are growing -- be a six monthto ratorium, thosees are lost. there is truly a human dimension to this. host: we are talking to bill cassady. the

. >> this comes from jessica resnick. >> i am with "bloomberg news" and had a few questions. the oil that could push out from the rubber seals that you described earlier -- i am curious how much oil you think will be leaking out. i understand it is preliminary. what are the scientists seeing. we knew for example that cutting into the riser pipe could cause a 20% increase in flow. what kind of percentage increase do you see from this? what the sea not been trapped in this cap? >> the content cap is going to capture the oil being brought up to the well bore from the reservoir below. the pressure in the reservoir is around 9000 psi. the pressure readings taken just before the top kill operation began last week indicated that the pressure at the blowout preventer was around 3500 psi. that is the pressure of the zero oil coming up to the well bore, counterbalanced by the hydrostatic pressure of the water at 5,000 feet. there is pressure for the oil to rise up to the top. the natural gas flares off. will the pressure of the oil going up into a much smaller pipe -- the price we are

jessica, animosity, florida. go ahead. caller: a. i do not know what to think exactly, people are drawing conclusions between him and the w. bush on the katrina thing, but i do live on the coast. we might get this oil stuff over here. right now we do not have that but we have lost 75% of our revenue on memorial day because the people were so convinced that we had oil on the shores. i think, for one thing, showing more emotion? he could. i am very cerebrum myself, intelligent, but obama has not done a good job with him doing fund-raising for people in california, i thought that was very bad. but what else can we do with this point? we need to come together. host: how much of your community depends on tourism? caller: a lot. i do not know how to put a frame on it as i am not in that business. host: you talked about a reduction? caller: according to the governor he said a 60% to 70% loss in tourism. people did not come for memorial day up and down the coast. host: you think that president obama could have done more on that front to help

. >> jessica something about the american that was killed in the plot to -- just something about theamerican that was killed in the flotilla. was the president angry? >> i was told that he expressed his condolences. >> are there offers that have been made to clear the primary [unintelligible] they know about? can we expect that the white house staff will continue to work on that as a possible means of preventing [unintelligible] >> i would draw you to the circumstances we have talked about in each one of those cases. >> those circumstances are not likely to be repeated? >> i would point to the fact pattern of each one. >> the solution to the immigration problem should be border security first and then immigration policy. >> i think the president believes that those things have to happen together. if there was one solution to this crisis, my guess is somebody would have either tried it are done it long ago. we know that is not the case. i think the president has outlined his beliefs on this. his record in the senate demonstrates this, and the work he has done here to encourage a bipar

. >> this comes from jessica resnick. >> i am with "bloomberg news" and had a few questions. the oil that could push out from the rubber seals that you described earlier -- i am curious how much oil you think will be leaking out. i understand it is preliminary. what are the scientists seeing. we knew for example that cutting into the riser pipe could cause a 20% increase in flow. what kind of percentage increase do you see from this? what the sea not been trapped in this cap? >> the content cap is going to capture the oil being brought up to the well bore from the reservoir below. the pressure in the reservoir is around 9000 psi. the pressure readings taken just before the top kill operation began last week indicated that the pressure at the blowout preventer was around 3500 psi. that is the pressure of the zero oil coming up to the well bore, counterbalanced by the water at 5,000 feet. of the%- there is pressure for the oil to rise up to the top. the natural gas flares off. will the pressure of the oil going up into a much smaller pipe -- the price we are looking at are smal

this is jessica with bloomberg news. i had a few questions, but i guess there is the sensitive issue of the oil that could push out from the rubber seals as you described earlier. i wonder how much oil you see it leaking alice? -- you see leaking out? you say that cutting into the riser pipe could cause a 20% increase in flow. what kind of percentage do you see not being trapped in this cap? >> what is happening is the containment cap will capture oil being brought up to pressure in the reservoir down below. >> right. >> we know the pressure in the reservoir is somewhere around 9000 psi. the steps taken before this operation last week indicated the pressure around the blowout preventer was around 3500 psi. that has been counterbalanced by the pressure of the water at 5,000 feet. where there is pressure for oil to come into the pipe and rise up to be produced on the vessel on the top -- the question is, wwll the pressure of the oil going up into a much smaller pie, and -- smaller pipe, and they are smaller than the drill