. >> host: traditionally we felt combat with infantry use, so now we find this jessica lange, who was a supply person on a convoy, and she finds herself in a firefight, and she finds herself as a first p.o.w. which i want to go back to in a little while because you were involved in some of that. you see someone like ruby up in mosul on the day that the bomber got through the front line and went from the cafeteria and blew up the place and was one of the people blown out. the reality is i would say that is the front line almost any place is a front line if you were in a place like iraq or afghanistan. >> guest: yeah, and surprisingly, you know, women are often not acknowledge for serving those rules because there is no combat role for the women, and whether that's because of current policy, or just because the women are suddenly finding that because of the way that the war -- they are being put in that place, but i think there is a role for women in this capacity that they are finding, you know, that policy makers in the military findings are very useful such as being an interrogator t