jessica leeds is that he groped her in the first class cabin of a commercial flight. she has recently retired after working 30 years as a stockbroker. she's the mother of two, grandmother of eight. welcome back to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. before i get you to respond to donald trump, explain what happened to you. for people who aren'n't familiar with what h happened when you gt on a commercial flight -- when was it? >> it was around 1980. at t this point, i would think everybody has heard abouout it. amy: assumee nothing. >> to some degree, sounds like an old story. i was traveling and on an airplane coming in from either dallas or atlanta. i don't remember which one. but it was a long flight. me stewardess came back to in the business section and asked me what i'd be interested in coming up to first class. worked for me. so i came on up. it was the first two seats in the section, right against the bulkhead. there's a young man sitting therei, blondesh. he stuck his hand out and introduced himself as donald trump. the name meant nothing to me. w

with excruciatingly clear detail. >> jessica leeds, i appreciate you being on.t's under these circumstances. >> you're welcome. >> thanks for being with us. back with jeff toobin, kirsten powers. also joining us former trump campaign aide, michael caputo. jeff, when the president says he doesn't believe the accusations against judge kavanaugh because he, himself, has faced sexual misconduct allegations which he's denied, how sound is that logic when it's the president talking about obviously the supreme court nominee? >> i think there's an example of the president telling the absolute truth. he doesn't believe these things because he doesn't -- you know, he doesn't like being accused of them, himself. you know, i think he, you know, this can't be a coincidence that every sexual harassment investigation that he hears about he believes the man. you know, he has a view of gender relations that was set, as far as i can tell, in about 1957, and he sees himself as like this rat pack hero and he sees these women as prey and he has utterly no understanding of everything

honest about it, but the woman, the one he's talking about, apparently appears to be talking about jessica leeds, who says trump groped her on a flight around 1980. here's what she told anderson. she was on the show just a little while ago. >> i didn't tell anybody until 2015. >> you didn't tell anybody in your life? >> i didn't tell anybody. >> why? >> who was i going to complain to at the time it happened? the stewardess? no. the airlines? no. my boss? no. there wasn't -- i wasn't going to tell my family. it was -- i considered him a jerk. >> so president trump, who has said a big reason he won the election was his promise to shift the balance of the supreme court, he's mindful of what will happen if brett kavanaugh goes down to defeat. in fact, he seems to be musing about picking somebody else. >> we're talking about the united states supreme court. this can go on forever. i can pick five other people. at a certain point, people are going to say, no, thank you. this is the most coveted job probably in the world. and you know what? i would honestly say, because i interviewed great people for t