amy: that was jessica leeds speaking on democracy now! in 2018.testified in the defamation and battery trial. she is joining us now from asheville, north carolina. jessica leeds, thank you so much for rejoining us on democracy now! can i first get your response to president trump being found guilty of sexual assault against e. jean carroll? >> i am really pleased. i am pleased for e. jean. i'm sorry the jury could not come up with a rape charge, but that is kind of understandable. baby steps here. baby steps. amy: i was curious, she was able to file this suit because of this law that had opened up in new york that still has six months where people can sue someone who assaulted them years ago. are you weighing suing donald trump as well? >> no, i have kids and grandkids and great grandkids. i wouldn't want to put them through that. amy: but what is quite a testimonial to e. jean carroll, jessica, what you make of what e. jean carroll did? going through this again decades later? and talk about what made you decide to testify. there are dozens of wom

and jessica leeds is 81, to e. jean carroll's 79. they are both a part of what carroll called on the stand, the silent generation. they were taught to be complacent and docile, and not make a scene, and be accommodating, and to care more about others feelings than about themselves. it's not surprising to me that jessica leeds, after her assault, behaved very much in the same way that e. jean carroll did. the only difference is that e. jean carroll confided into close friends at the time and told them to never speak of it again, and jessica leeds really had to see donald trump become a candidate for president to realize how disturbed she was by his prominence in american life, and that she needed to come forward. >> last question for you, lisa. what's next in the civil trial? who will be testifying next? what can we expect next? >> now that e. jean carroll is off the stand, we are looking at a sort of rapid clip, where we saw the two witnesses that you mention today. and we saw the beginning of testimony from leslie lebowitz. she's a

jessica leeds is in her 80s.o do forward -- and the last thing she said, i hope i don't have to go through this again, i don't want to live through telling the story again. and that trauma doesn't go away and every time that you have to recount it, it comes back again. every time somebody attacks you on line, it comes back. and every time you have to behave the way a victim is meant to behave and you don't, you hear from e. jean carroll that it comes back again as well. and so i don't think that joe tacopina's questioning which i'm not a lawyer, but i've been reading lawyers' accounts and he has been pretty pillarried for the way that he is questioning her. just from the legal stance. he has allowed her to repeat her story so many times. he asked questions that he didn't know the answer to. he's got facts wrong in the process of the questioning of her. but i think that she got to something really important when she said that i was a part of the silent generation. she was born in 1943 a long time before the "me to

even president of the united states. >> jessica leeds, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, it's good to see you. >> good to see you. want to go next to george conway who first urged e. jean carroll to sue the president. when did you meet her and what did you advise her? >> it was a bit serendipitous. what happened was the week before her story had come out in "new york" magazine and the book excerpt, and over that weekend, that had prompted me to write an op-ed for "the washington post," where i pointed out that jean carroll's case was much stronger in terms of its corroboration than the case of juanita broaddrick and her allegations of being raped by bill clinton and the point i made which flowed from the fact that the trump campaign brought out juanita broaddrick in 2016 to attack hillary clinton was if you believe the allegations of juanita broaddrick and thought she was courageous coming forward you better feel the same way about jean carroll because she had two contemporaneous witnesses in whom she confided the sexual assault then, of course, y

jessica leeds first came forward with her story during the presidential campaign in 2016.ay, jessica leeds testified, at that time in that place, in the work environment, men could basically get away with a lot. and that's sort of where i put it. joining us now is faith gay, a former prosecutor for the eastern district of new york. thank you very much for joining us once again tonight. so, in donald trump's testimony, we're not gonna see him he is not gonna come to the courthouse. he's not gonna be on the witness stand. but there is a video deposition that was taken of his testimony in the case, when we'd be seeing that in the trial, and how would that be introduced, who would introduce it? >> well, lawrence, today, donald trump, our former president, told the jurors, those nine folks stuck in the box, that he's a coward. and that not only is he a coward, that he's let an 80 year old woman, actually several 80-year-old woman won him out of courthouse. and there's a price for being a coward, and you just told us that, which is that his deposition probably 40 or 45 long minu

as you know, the jury heard from jessica leeds who alleges she was assaulted in the '70s on a plane,ded to first class and seated next to him, who allegedly tried to kiss and grope her. he's denied it. but it's part of a pattern of alleged behavior for the former president. >> do we know if he's going to testify? >> reporter: no. he was never expected to. his lawyer confirmed it after court today. i speak with many of his attorneys, and some of the attorneys in the other criminal investigations will be relieved to hear he's not on the stand. there were concerns how other issues could come up in the civil case to complicate the other criminal investigations, particularly his credibility. >> will the defense all witnesses? do you know when the trial may end? >> reporter: the time line we're looking at, carroll's lawyers are expected to wrap up their case on thursday. then the trump attorneys will get their chance to defend. they're only expected to call one witness, an expert to testify remotely. there's no court on friday. it appears this could go to the jury as early as monday. >> pa

was again accused of harassment, this time the testimony was given to 81-year-old businesswoman jessica leeds the former us president molested her on an airplane. in the late seventies of the last century, he pulled her to i tried to kiss myself and grabbed the chest of persons compared these hugs with a touch with 40 million rubles. trump, in turn , denies the allegations, of course, let me remind you that earlier accusations of rape against the former head of the white house were put forward by a journalist. the jane carroll incident allegedly happened in a fitting room in manhattan at the end of 1995. well , at least it's closer to our times. this case is still pending in court. at least nine people were killed in a shooting at a school in belgrade. several more victims are in the hospital with various injuries, according to local media, the fire was opened by a 14-year-old teenager. he was detained by the police, he fired shots from his father's pistol, according to one version, the offender could be under the influence of drugs. and it is known that he studied. he was well and was from a

has testified saying she too, was assaulted by former president trump on tuesday. 81 year-old jessica leedsasheville, north carolina, says on the stand that she was molested by trump in the late 70's lead says she met him on a daytime flight to new york and you suddenly started kissing and groping her. the testimony comes as part of writer e jean carroll's civil rape and defamation lawsuit against trump. claims she was sexually assaulted by trump in a department store in new york in 1996 trump has denied both accusations insinuating the women are not his type. democratic senator dianne feinstein of san francisco says she is hopeful she'll be able to return to the capitol next week. that's according to notes from senate majority leader chuck schumer. find sign has been out since february after being hospitalized with shingles. find signs absence left a party without a vote in both the chamber and on the senate judiciary committee delaying several judge appointments in april. she requested a temporary replacement on the committee. but the gop dismissed the idea forcing democrats to wait for h

we will speak to jessica leeds, who testified during the trial about how trump sexually assaulted heruring a flight in the 1970's. >>

one of them, jessica leeds, claims she was also assaulted by trump.ould like to express my support for e jean carroll with her suit against trump. her story rings true to me. leeds says she met trump on a flight to new york back in 1979. he was trying to kiss me, leeds testified. he was trying to pull me towards him. he was grabbing my breasts. it was like he had 40 million hands. they had been seated next to each other on the plane, and leeds said it was out of the blue. trump has denied it ever happened, pointing to her looks she would not be my first choice, that i can tell you. that was his response to carroll's allegations, to denying raping her, saying she's not my type. but in a deposition , when shown an old picture of carroll, trump said, that's marla. mr. taking her for his ex-wife, marla maples. today, carroll's friend lisa burback testified. carroll called her 5 to 7 minutes after the alleged assault at bergdorf goodman, telling the jury. e jean said to me many times he pulled down my tights. he pulled down my tights. byrne said. she whisp

and the jury also heard from jessica leeds, she addresses that she was assaulted by trump on an airplane, that she sat next to him and he tried to kiss and grope her. trump has denied that account. but this is all part of an effort to establish carroll's sorry as part of a pattern of behavior by former president trump. and carroll's attorneys are expected to wrap up their case on thursday and then trump's defense attorneys will put on their case. paula reid, cnn, new york. >>> judge overseeing the ed sheeran copyright trial says the jury could start deliberating as soon as today. he is a accused of copyrighting le"let's get it on." a music effort testified that it was not the first one to use the ch chord progression and that 80 other songs also include it including 33 before gaye's hit. >>> and as the feud between desantis and disney escalates, randi kaye spoke to voters in the town about the flash point. >> i'd love to be able to vote for a republican. but, yeah, he's not winning me over with this. >> reporter: terry is talking about florida governor ron desantis. terry lives here in c

because testimonies against trump are pulled to each other, then two more women, one of them, jessica leeds, said that in the late seventies she flew with him in business class. and it was the worst flight of her life. it all started suddenly. he pulled me towards him and tried to kiss me. he grabbed my chest like he had 40 million hands. there was a real fight between us when he started to put his hand under my skirt. i was able to slip out of trump being interrogated live by the ex-president. openly scoffed at side of the accusation. believe me. i would n't even look at her. i'll tell you what, when you said at the rally that you wouldn't look at miss faces, you meant her looks right. no, in general. i saw her. i heard what she was saying and everything, honestly, i wouldn't look at you either, i hope. under no circumstances will you arouse, i have no interest. no, as far as carlson is concerned, in the best traditions of the culture of abolition, liberal ones. the media is trying to destroy his reputation first. new york times published a fragment of the leak, and apparently by the secre

jessica leeds testified trump repeatedly groped her during a flight in the 1970s.016. >> it was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me. when he started putting his hand up my skirt, that was it. that was it. amy: journalist natasha stoynoff also took the stand and recounted how trump allegedly pushed her against a wall and forcibly kissed her during a 2005 interview at mar-a-lago. the jury was also shown the infamous “access hollywood” video in which trump brags about grabbing women's genitals without asking permission. >> you just start kissing her. i just start kissing them. like a magnet. when you are a star, they let you do it. you can do whatever you want. grab them by the pussy, you can do anything. amy: in a videotaped deposition shown to the jurors, trump said the story was "made up" and that he couldn't have raped e. jean carroll because she wasn't his "type.” he also said in a tape about the lawyer questioning him, saying "you wouldn't be a choice of mine either, to be honest." former president trump waived his right to testify but o

you can also go to democracynow.org to see our interview yesterday with jessica leeds, one of the twowitnesses who testified on behalf of e. jean carroll, who described spinks actually assaulted by donald trump most of next up, an update on skin applied republican congress never george santos, rested wednesday on 13 felony charges, still refusing to resign. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "if it don't bleed" by james mcmurtry. the texas musician has been performing in a dress at his tennessee concerts in protest of the state's anti-drag law. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. the scandal-plagued new york republican congressmember george santos pleaded not guilty to 13 federal charges at a courthouse online island wednesday. -- on long island wednesday. he faces counts include wire fraud, money laundering, lying on federal disclosure forms, and fraudulently collecting unappointed benefits. santos spoke to reporters after he was released on $500,000 bond. >> i'm going to fight the witchhunt. i'm going to take care of clearing m

earlier this week, jessica leeds testified that trump repeatedly groped her during a flight in the 1970's. journalist natasha stoynoff also took the stand and recounted how trump allegedly attacked her and forcibly kissed her during a 2005 photoshoot and interview at mar-a-lago. the jury is expected to begin deliberating next tuesday. meanwhile, a judge dismissed trump's lawsuit against "the new york times" wednesday asserting the newspaper's 2018 reporting on his finances, including the gathering of his tax records, is protected by the first amendment. "the wall street journal" has obtained a trove of personal documents of convicted sexual predator and child sex trafficker jeffrey epstein, including his schedules from 2013 to 2017. it shows he met with a number of prominent figures following his 2008 florida conviction for procuring a child for prostitution. the list includes now-cia director william burns, former israeli prime minister ehud barak, filmmaker woody allen, former treasury secretary and harvard president lawrence summers, and the famed linguist noam chomsky. chomsky confi

jean carroll, same playbook with jessica leeds, in the same playbook that he collapsed two in the hollywoodtape. less than a year after he allegedly assaulted natasha stoynoff, seeing those two things juxtaposed together was extraordinarily powerful. >> he attempted to kiss her, to file her? >> i think probably all of the above. one of the reasons that her testimony came in is because trump was interrupted mid attempted assault. so he would stop against a wall, he kissed her without her consent, she tried to shove him off. he went back after. it was in that moment that the head buffer at mar-a-lago walked in the room and said, mrs. trump is ready for the photo shoot to resume. and they walked out. as they walked out, what trump said to her is particularly chilling. he said, you know we're going to have an affair, don't you? you know what mueller said. best sex i've ever had. he was convinced it is mind that this woman who was utterly terrified in and consenting and that she was so scared she could not find the words, wanted to have an affair with him. his obliviousness was stark. >> she tes

. >> jessica leeds, i appreciate your time thank you. >> thank you, it's good to see you. >> good to, you we want to speak to george conway, who first aged -- george, can you walk us through how and when you met e. jean carroll? what exactly you advised her? >> it is serendipitous. what happened was the week before her story had come out in the new york magazine, in the book excerpt. over that weekend, that prompted me to write an op-ed from the washington post where i had pointed out that jean carroll's case was actually much stronger in terms of its corroboration then the case of juanita roderick and her allegations about being raped by bill clinton. the point that i made, which was flowing from the fact of the trump campaign itself brought out rodrick in 2016, attacking hillary clinton, and if you believe the allegations of broderick, and you thought that she was courageous for coming forward, then you darn well better feel the same way about jean carroll, because she had to contemporaneous witnesses to whom she confided the sexual assault. and then of course, you have the incredi

now, they also called another witness, jessica leeds who alleges she was assaulted by trump on an airplaneope her. trump has denied her allegations, but carroll's attorneys are putting her on to try to establish that carroll's story is part of a pattern by the former president. now, carroll's attorneys are expected to wrap their case soon and then trump's attorneys will put on their defense. >> paula reid reporting for us from new york. >>> coming up by the way on erin burnett jouts"outfront," that's coming up right at the top of the hour. >>> up next,some "snl" just canceled new episodes now that hollywood writers have gone on strike. with t-mobile for business, sasave more than $1000 versus verizon. and wiwith our price lock guarantee, we'll never raise your rate plan. everer. what will you do? will you make something better? create somhing new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you withhe tools and expertise you need to bring o the innovator in you. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work helping them achieve financial fre

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now, as you know, the jury also heard from jessica leeds who alleges that she was assaulted on a planen the 1970s by trump, she said she was upgraded to first class, seated next to trump, and that he allegedly tried to kiss her and group are. trump has denied those allegations, but her testimony is part of an effort by carroll's attorneys to establish that her allegations are part of a pattern. of alleged behavior the former president trump. do we know that the former president actually gonna testify? >> no, he was never expected to testify, but his lawyer actually confirmed that shortly after court today. anderson, i can tell you, i speak with many of the former president trump's attorneys, some of his attorneys in the other criminal investigations are going to be quite relieved to hear that their client will not be on the stand in this case. there were some concerns about how other issues could come up in the civil case, that could complicate those other criminal destinations, particularly, when it comes to his credibility. >> will the defense call any witnesses do you know? do you k

second woman testified today that she was assaulted by former president donald trump 81 year old jessica leedsaid she was molested by trump on an airline flight back in 1979. she told the jury that when she was 37, she met trump on a flight to new york and suddenly kissed and groped her. leads testified in support of author e. jean carroll. she is suing trump in civil court over claims that he raped her in 1996 in a manhattan department store. police in davis today announced a series of beefed up safety measures in the wake of three stabbings, two of them deadly. police have not yet link the crimes and no arrests have been made. ktvu brooks jarocz has the latest now on the investigation. the last few days have been. shocking and incredibly challenging for our community. people. are scared. three violent stabbings, two of them homicides, all in less than one week. the latest monday night. the victim, a homeless woman living near second and l. streets who's now in critical condition at the hospital, and that one it appears that she was inside of her tent and a suspect came up and stabbed her thr

testifying that she, too, was assaulted by former president donald trump on tuesday. 81 year-old jessica leedseville, north carolina, says that she was molested by trump in the late 1970's leeds says she met him on a daytime flight to new york and that he suddenly kissed and groped her. the testimony is coming as part of writer e jean carroll's civil rape and defamation lawsuit against trump. carroll claims she was sexually assaulted by him in a department store in 1996. >> right. coming up here, the san jose quakes will be taking the field at levi's stadium this weekend. details on the celebration of the club has planned ahead of this anticipated matchup. and a state lawmakers is now attempting to introduce a major teacher salary increase. this is all to help improve the massive teacher shortage. and pharmacies all across the nation are reporting a major drug shortage, the list of medicines that are impacted. medicines that are impacted. that's after the break. your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel- nothing beats it. new pronamel active shield actively shields the en

second woman testified today that she was assaulted by former president donald trump. 81 year old jessica leedss this happened on a flight in 1979. she told the jury she was sitting next to trump and first class when he suddenly groped her. leads testified in support of author e. jean carroll. she's suing trump in civil court over claims that he raped her in 1996 in a manhattan department store . carol's lawyers called leads to the witness stand in an effort to show that trump has a history of assaulting women. coming up after the break, a first of its kind study starting up in san francisco how researchers are personalizing medication and some rain making its way back into the bay area tonight. chief meteorologist bill martin is tracking in las vegas, the most popular food is broccoli. yeah, that's the only food. they have broccoli smoothies, and broccoli pancakes, and broccoli ice cream, unseasoned broccoli.....ve w with stems. -daddy, i don't want to go to las vegas with you and mommy tomorrow. oh, are you sure? are you sure you don't want to go, it will be so much fun! sweet aimed at custom

before that, we heard from a woman, jessica leeds who claims president trump attacked her at laguardiaampaign many years later and that story is there to buttress the claim that this is a pattern, that mr. trump has been attacking a number of women, not just carroll, but miss leeds, but another woman who we expect to hear from during the trial. a lot of backup and witnesses trying to bolster e. jean carroll's account. >> ron allen, thank you very much. joining me now is msnbc lisa urban. you spent days in the courtroom watching as e. jean carroll testified and was cross examined. what stood out for you. >> her story remained intact even as joe tacopina was able to chip away at minor details and as her lawyer summarized on redirect, do you believe there is one way to live one's life after being a victim of rape, she said no, there's not. it doesn't minimize that i was raped that i still shop at bergdorf goodman. the rape still happened and it doesn't mean whether i scream or called the police or whether i got therapy, it still happened. >> it's a case of he said/she said other than jean

second woman is now testified she was assaulted by former president donald trump. 81 year old jessica leedsd it happened on a flight in 1979. she told the jury she was sitting next to the former president in first class when he suddenly grow terms. leads testified in support of author e. jean carroll, who is suing donald trump and civil court over claims that he raped her in 1996 in the manhattan department store. gun advocates have filed a lawsuit in federal court challenging california's 10 day waiting period for new gun purchases. the lawsuit argues the waiting period in dangers law abiding citizens who may need to buy a gun immediately to protect themselves. gun advocates have been challenging california's gun control law since last year, when the supreme court narrowed the government's authority to restrict possessing or carrying a firearm. california has mandated a 10 day wait for all gun purchases since 2011 time is now for 34. santa clara county just approved the measure to pay for at least two gun buyback events a year. supervisors say they wanted to make it easier for people to su

weeks and kind of talked to them about this one single pattern that emerged from carroll and from jessica leedsied about being assaulted by trump in semi-public places at times that they did not expect it and then disparaged, being disparaged by trump when they spoke out decades later. roberta kaplan also talked about the fact that, you know, trump was not there, that he didn't take the stand. and she did use his words against him in his deposition and in the infamous "access hollywood" tape which the jury saw again this morning during kaplan's summation. she used his own words to describe what carroll has alleged he did to her. roberta kaplan actually said to the jury he grabbed her by the you know what, and she said all you need to do is look no further than what he has told you. joe tacopina, you know, we saw a very energetic closing argument from him. he went well beyond two hours. the defense did not put on a case. they did not present any witnesses. but he really rehashed a lot of what we saw on cross-examination, that carroll and her two friends, lisa birnbach and -- her two friends that