. >> host: take us through this be tests women have been in all of the major wars people non jessica lynch as the first pow will then take an indirect. go back to a will issue now 15 years my entire service of the congress the arm services committee, if i have been watching to see how the role of the lawmen is in within the military ranks. let's go back to something that is very important. you push the envelope and women being involved and the combat. talk about what does combat mean? some people think they should not be involved. >> guest: combat it is interesting because at some think the you earn the combat rid been or half to be infantry but stepping back if you look at the definition, it is any offensive action against foreign forces that results in some kind of conflict. with that didn't -- definition in mind we have no front line with the current conflict and iraq and afghanistan and people would not be in these combat roles to find themselves on the front line to support units that have females floor and traditional roles that people did not sign of to be in the infantry. >> tradit

and the end of the story with jessica lynch, did you have any involvement with that?> guest: we flew the uavs for that mission, flying over the hospital when they were doing the pfc lynch rescue. so we got to watch the whole thing from the lens of the -- at least from the rooftop. and we also did the scout out beforehand. so we were flying over looking for critical nodes or indications where lynch -- >> host: signs that she might be there -- >> guest: exactly. >> host: to collaborate information we had heard from others. >> guest: exactly. >> host: because that's what we try to do, for example, when we went after ow sam ma bin laden -- osama bin laden in pakistan, we actually had heard he was there maybe a couple years before, but you really have to fine tune and continue to look for information that corroborates the story that people are telling you so you have a high chance that, in fact, that does happen there, right? so if you send troops in, you're really going after an osama bin laden, or you're really going in to get jessica lynch. >> guest: exactly. part of th

you know, women have been in all of our major wars all the way from iraq to you and jessica lynch is the first p.o.w., woman taken in iraq for example. so let's go back to this whole issue because as you know one of the things i have been working on as the ranking woman on all the military issues in the house of representatives and for 15 years now my entire service in the congress being on the armed services committee, i have been really watching and seeing how the role of the woman is within the military ranks. so let's go back to something that is very important because you did something that i believe is very unique. you push the envelope in women being involved in combat in iraq. so let's talk a little bit about the first of all, what combat means. because you know some people think that women shouldn't be involved in combat. talk to me a little bit about that. >> guest: combat is an interesting thing because a lot of marines think to be in combat means you earned the combat action ribbon or you have reached a certain level or you have to be an country in order to be in combat.

in the end of the story of jessica lynch, did you have an involvement of that? >> guest: my unit flew for that mission so we were flying over the hospital when they were doing the lynching rescue. so we got to watch the whole thing through the lens of the uav at least from the rooftop, and we also did the scout out beforehand. so we were flying over and azeri of looking for critical notes or indications where -- was cosines she might be there to collect the information we might heard from others because that is what we try to do even like for example when we went after osama bin laden and pakistan, we actually had heard that he was there may be a couple years before, but you have to fine-tune and continue to look for information that collaborates the story people are telling you, so you have a high chance that in fact that does happen there, so if you send troops in you are really going after osama bin laden or going in to get jessica lynch. >> guest: exactly. part of the information we were able to pull from the fly over in the city indicated that she was in th