you never met jessica mitford?>> no, i never met her. >> are you familiar -- >> i met her a number of times. that is why i wanted to talk to about it? >> how did you meet her? under what circumstance? >> i wife was a writer and she and jessica had the same editor. he used to give literary parties, i guess you can call them literary parties. they were parties, and so i saw her at those places at those times. my wife knew her i think more than i did at the time. my wife is dead and jessica is dead and the editor is dead. i am still here. >> what was your impression of her? >> well, she was very likable, and i remember my wife asked her one time if she could recommend a hotel. we had never been there before, recommend a hotel in london. she looked very stricken with the idea that anybody could stay in a hotel. people didn't stay in hotels, they stayed in big houses. it was france in big houses. another time, as she was writing a book, think it was going to be the american way of dying as a matter fact. anyway, it was