carol jenkins and jessica neuwirth, we welcome you to democracy now!t is it you could see happening now that has not happened in u.s. history? >> two things. the coalition is now working on two ways f forward to the e.r.a. being ratified. one is we need 38 states. we think we're close to that. we got as far as 37.5 states. virginia senate passed it, the house denied it. we call that getting as close as you can get without getting there. we think virginia will be the next possibility for us as well. there is an election in november. if they manage to turn the state blue, they could take up the e.r.a. again in january. we're just that close. the other 13 states, we are working for that. the reason we were in the judiciary committee last week billo get jackie spepear's marked up and voted on. that would be the removal of the deadline completely, which is a barrier to the conversation -- not necessarily a barrier to ratification, but to the conversation about the equal rights amendment. amy: jessica neuwirth, you have been organizing and writing about this