you heard from jessie lorenz and bob and we also have smith who is on the according council, or office and mayor's office on disability. berry hill from the san francisco aging adult division and from bonnie lee from california and the department of motor vehicles andrew conway. the merchants and business owners were also represented in the chamber of commerce to give their perspective on the issue. >> so as with any large group it took time to work out issues. we met as a large group for 6 months but even with that, 1/3 of our group met additionally each month and a steering committee. we do a lot of work and ask a lot of questions and did research and got back to what we've heard about the membership i want to stress is that many of us were people with disability or disability rights advocates and the point is it was not a slam dunk from vested agencies. they talked to people, a variety of backgrounds, constituents, and interest and if you take the name out you will see the names related to all those areas. the representative from dmv came from sacramento and he provided a lot of his