. >> the first jesuit pope. >> first jesuit. i went to jesuit schools, the university of san francisco. i was trained by the jesuits. >> who are they? >> jesuits are considered the great educators. they go back hundreds of years putting emphasis on education and educate people in the faith and a lot of training. it takes a long time to be a jesuit. 30s after years of schooling and training. i took primarily theology and scripture from them and i was always impressed. in fact, one of the teachers taught me greek for two years with a recommendation to go into seminary at the school of religion in berkeley and was going to come to my ordination but got sick. >> fight presbyterians but that's another story. so mandela and the new pope. two big stories of 2013. what else? >> also, you have to look at gay marriage. 16 states i think approve gay marriage now. you have gay unions. but the church still resists on the whole. some churches are open but some churches like ours is almost split around it. we, for 40 years, have dealt with the

louis would have -- the jesuit superior in st. louis would have too weigh what this extension of jesuits from st. louis was going to cost. he wad an administrator. so when father found these indians -- in fact they found him. what happened was he was a missioner in moon the indians at council bluff, iowa, and one day he saw a group of canoes beaching themselves in front of his mission. from the missouri river. he went down to greet them, and as he went down to greet them, he heard them speaking to one another in french. french. his native language. how could this be that they were speaking french? he came to find out that they were iroquois indians but the iroquois indians are from the jesuit area of new france, they're from the st. lawrence river. so, what happened was, when fur trade companies moved across the map of canada, they more or less leap-frogged across each other. in other words, the hudson bay company would trap out a certain area, and the competing company, the northwest company, would leap-frog over them to areas th

a jesuit. a wonderful man. founder and head of a church. >> there are a lot of people that know the pope. >> i guess. but he has a limited american experience. and here you are among us. you know him. and he studied with him. >> from a long time ago. >> where do we begin? where is the best place to begin? >> it is up to you. you know him. how did you get to know him? you are now his friend, scholar and teacher. >> let me talk about the question of the next pope. that is the question on people's minds. my view is that we have had a generation of giants really in the 50s and 60s. we had theologians -- these are all huge and figures and theology. since then, we have not had figures like that. but we have had people who can take their heritage and their legacy and carry it on. likewise, in the papacy, we have had two giants. john paul and benedict the 16th. scholars and very charismatic in their own way. well-known internationally before they were elected pope. but i don't think we are going to get a pope like that

it seems kind of strange that a pope would be a jesuit, because the jesuits take a vow to do what thes them. >> reporter: but even more stunning to many was the name he chose. rita is a life-long catholic and writer for a catholic magazine. >> first pope to be named after francis of assisi. francis of assisi was a rebel and someone deeply committed to the poor and to prayer and a radical vision of living out krigs yan i christianity. this is the first pope to take that name, and it's not an accident. >> it's the most iconic name in the catholic imagination, because it used to be believed that no pope could take the name francis, because there was only one francis, and the fact that this pope did it told me two things right away, one, this was going to be a maverick pope, a guy who was not going to be shackled by convention, and two, it told me that this is going to be a very franciscan pope, somebody before all else was going to embrace poverty, the lover of st. francis. >> and a message of love and forgiveness from pope francis at his first christmas eve mass in the vatican as we wat

it was the jesuits who encouraged me to go back to islam. it was the jesuits who taught me the core principle of social justice and everything that i do, no matter what it is, in my teaching, in my writing, in my activism is to focus on the central message of jesus. >> he was born in iran, grew up in san jose and is now is professor at uc river side. we want to thank all of our guests for their time tonight and thank you for joining us. we hope to see you on monday. . welcome to "on the money." i'm becky quick. will santa deliver a big rally to investors or a lump of coal? the company that wants to change the way you watch tv. can you cut the cable cord or throw out that satellite dish? that's all up in the air. a business that's growing like weed. why marijuana could mean high times for state revenue, but does i send the wrong message to kids? how to make sure you get every tax dollar you're owed. "on the money" starts right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program. "on the money." now becky quick. >>> here's a look at wh

. >> i'm a recovering catholic and particularly a jesuit and he is a jesuit pope.p. they link faith and justice. he -- if he googled jesuit teachings these would come up. they are in line with international and global perspectives. part of their scholarship is having effective communication. these are traditions of jesuit priests and the pope is a true jesuit and living in -- coming from argentina and living with the poor he's going to live this out. this is no surprise. this is what catholics are supposed to do. >> there is truth in that. i love rush limbaugh. i think he is right about a lot of stuff. he is right about unbridled capitalism. it is regulated and constrained by everything. >> that's why we have a financial crisis because we are so highly regulated. >> wall street does better under democratic presidents because of the unholy wall street and washington alliance. >> let me bring in ross doubt. what do you make of the comments? >> i am just enjoying. a refreshing change of pace to have the republicans discover the pope is infallible. it's a breath of fre

it seems kind of strange that a pope would be a jesuit because the jesuits take a vow to do what thes them. >> but even more stunning to many was the name he chose. a writer for the u.s. catholic be magazine common wheel. >> first pope to be named after francis of assisi. so francis of assisi was a rebel. francis of assisi was somebody deeply committed to the poor and to prayer and to a kind you have radical vision of living out christianity. this is a first pope to take that name and it's not an accident. >> and it is perhaps after jesus and peter and maybe mary the most iconic name in the catholic imagination because it used to be believed na no pope could take the name francis because there was only one francis. and the fact that this pope did it told me two things about the man right away. one, that this was going to be a maverick pope, a guy who was not going to be shackled by convention. and two, it told me that this was going to be a very franciscan pope in the literal sense of the word meaning somebody who before all else was going to embrace lady poverty, the lover of st. fr

louis, to knock on the door of the jesuits at st. louis university. and father de smet met him, found out what their goal was. he followed them in a couple of weeks, and then he said to his superior, i can take that assignment. i would be good at that assignment. i've had experience with the pottawattamie's. i am not a full-fledged jesuit priest. i'm ready to take this assignment. what each tribe hoped to gain by having a missionary is a complicated story, as you can well imagine. they wanted to know more about this master of life that they had heard from the iroquois indians. but the iroquois indians had oversold the idea, and so the native people of the pacific northwest, the interior pacific northwest, those native people had a higher expectation that they would not just be to learn the story of a master of life that they had not known before, but they came to extrapolate what the iroquois had told them into believing that perhaps they could now be great warriors because they would have a spiritual dimension that if not make them bulletproof, and t

it was the jesuits who taught me how to understand who jesus was.ouraged me to go back to islam. it was the jesuits who taught me the core principle of social justice and that everything that i do, no matter what it is in my teaching, in my writing, in my activism is focused on the central message of jesus's. >> as lan was born in iran, grew up in san jose and now is a professor at uc riverside. we want to thank all of our guests for their time tonight. thank you for joining us. we hope to he sue you on monday. good night. lights, camera, access. ♪ >> 100 plus a day, a full time trainer and a no carb diet. kim sheds 50 poundsx(Ñ to get h body back after the baby. this is the weekend edition of "access hollywood." with kim proudly showing off her slimmer herself in a skimpy bikini. >> as soon as i get in shape, the first thing i want to do is like "playboy" or some nude shoot. >> it's not "playboy" as she proclaimed on keeping up with the kardashians but she stripped down to a bikini. she proclaimed my body is back. the photos were taken in late nove

saints and jesuit you know names he could have called on. i think most catholics appreciate the social justice message of francis i think what concerns them is how some of his other statements about priorities are being interpreted well he came right out and he named trickle down you know he said there's no evidence that this is worked in fact it's all this harm and he named trickle down now the only are going to trickle down either in the world who has ever used the. trickledown in a positive way was ronald reagan well i think he was trying to address the fact that this his sort of reaganomics was being called trickle down nobody supports this sort of trickle down. reagan and all his buddies have you know i never say we call it supply side we call it conservatism we call it free markets but we don't trickle down art laffer on my radio show and he's talked. i believe you know i should say that i don't i and i and i know probably how he was saying it he was conceding the term tom because he was your gas and you want to be polite well no i thi

. >> are you a good jesuit or bad jesuit? >> joining me now, sister simone campbell. the bus. a social justice lobby. and msnbc contributor. sister simone. rush limbaugh says that the pope is a pure marxist that he is ripping america that he is ripping capitalism. is that the pope's new mission to attack america and american capitalism? >> absolutely not. and if, rush had actually read the document that was issued last week, he would see that the pope is really talking about returning to the roots of who we are. america is about community of people who work for the common good. and that's what the pope is challenging us to do. and pointing out that -- that the incredible income and wealth disparity in our nation and in our world is undermining the security for all of us. undermining everyone's human digni dignity. calling us to move away from that. it is ral eally to return to ou roots and be faithful. >> are you surprised that limbaugh and beck and these people are instantly politicizing the pope's language. it seems to me it is not helpful to their cause to bring ad

i guess the first thoughts that come to mind as a former jesuit in training gods delays are not gods denials. the second thing listening to brian as they went on to appropriately recognize everyone in this room. most of you have been recognized that the old adage or the old sue that plato once thrust if there was any hope for the future those with lanterns any pass them on. of the faith and devotion of the project through every consecutively and challenging opposition you guys were able to bring us to where we are today. i want to say a few words but mayor lee and i share the experience. i had a chance to drive out here and many of i have had the expense as you look at the old bridge. it started robbery-murder me of something i read about tom brooke asia book called the greatest generation. he talks about the generation of world war ii. it started making me think about california in the 50s and 70s. no state in america over those decades had jobs like that we grew 3.7 percent with the nation hat 2.4 percent. we were building bridges and airports and the like. i think about the book m

. >> the first jesuit pope. >> that is really something.e really breaking ground here, these cardinals, someone from latin america who's a jesuit. >> taking the name of st. francis for the first time. which is clearly a signal that he wants to show a different face of the church, face of the poor. >> reporter: his first words were casual, conversational. >> buona sera. >> reporter: the first sign of a new day at the vatican. >> i would like to give a blessing, but first, do me a favor -- >> reporter: that favor, a pope asking the people to pray for him. >> it was an incredible moment, because we all had our list of the people who were likely to be pope and he wasn't on any of them. suddenly here's this argentinian who was really of a completely different mold. and it signaled that the college of cardinals had come to a decision that they really wanted a different kind of pope. >> reporter: and with that first humble greeting, pope francis captured hearts. down in the crowds, reaching out to those most in need, living simply. he's leading by

francis is the first jesuit to become pope, prompting me to ask the jesuit-educated thomas cahill what he thinks about all this. i first met tom cahill years ago when he was director of religious publishing for doubleday. since then millions of readers have come to know him as the best-selling author of now six books on the "hinges of history," moments and ideas that have shaped our world, including "how the irish saved civilization," "the gifts of the jews," and this one, just published, "heretics and heroes," which i recommend for this eve of the new year because it's about new beginnings and new ideas, the stirrings of renaissance and reformation. thomas cahill, welcome back. >> it's good to see you, bill. >> is this pope a hero or a heretic? >> well, in the book that i just wrote, most of the heretics are heroes and most of the heroes are heretics. so, and it's a little hard to tell, and of course -- >> it's too soon. >> it depends on your point of view. and there are certainly people who are calling francis a heretic. you know, every clergyman is a politician. we forget that for s

the first hope from the americas the southern hem steer and the jesuit order.an very well order another to a list, the first to make waves on social media. the top ten rests reveal a compelling trends of the year. the pope, the palates in ballotn pakistan and floods were hot topics. rounding out the lists were the bombings at the boston marathon as well as the passing of one of humanity's giants, nelson mandela. >> reporter: with memorial events unfolding in south africa, many continue to go online to flood with pictures and posts. from humor to hope and heartache, facebook has picked up the emotions of the world becoming an every growing record of life today. al jazeera. >> syrian refugees have one more thing to worry about. this time they're dealing with snow and ice. getting the high quality, original, in-depth reporting al jazeera america is known for. >> to find out more about al jazeera america go to aljazeera.com >> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm del walters. here are today's deadlines. a vote on the bipartisan budget bill could come tomorrow. i

opportunity scholarships which are basically vouchers at the washington jesuit school the parents will do what they can but the rest is helped by other people to get a good education so we are looking for opportunities for kids to really want to work and give them some help. it seems to me you don't think these clichÉd ideas, we can change schools by going from public to charter and pick up the baskets and help them. you have a very democratic argument in your book which is the bottom quintile has to be helped. the gap is frightening. it's not that we take the top one or two quintiles and boost them and make them success stories but the gap -- the frightening thing is in america there will be this gap and we must not just help the elite or the a students, we have to get the kids who have the biggest challenges coming from poverty families. we should point out that poverty is an explanation for most poor performance. it's not iq, it's poverty. this audience is pretty liberal i think so i think -- i mean liberal and a good sense. they don't have fixed positions. tell me why what i laid o

jesuit conference, washington, d.c. the chaplain: gracious and life-giving god, we come to you today in the midst of the holiday season, a time for joyful gatherings with friends, family members and other loved ones in a time for recalling the blessings we have had received. we are mindful and grateful for the many gives you have bestowed on us, both as individuals and as a nation, especially the gift of freedom, the gift of our abundant natural resources and the gift of opportunities to pursue our hopes and aspirations. we pray for your continued blessings on our country and on those in positions of leadership and governance, especially in this house of representatives. bless all its members with wisdom and understanding to discern how best to serve the people of these united states, to promote the common good, to provide for our nation's security and to work for justice and peace for all people. amen. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 6-a of house resolution 438, the journal of the last day's proceeding is

the first jesuit pope. the first pope to choose st. francis as his namesake because he is a jesuit.nd first non-european pope in 1,000 years. he is from argentina. from that moment he walked out, everybody says, who is that? that was the first reaction. he has broken with vatican tradition from the moment he was elected on march 13th, making it very clear he would work to reshape the catholic church in some ways. i'm joined by david webb, host of david webb radio show and father jonathan morris. all three are fox news contributors. why do you think "time" magazine choice him importantly. >> i think "time" magazine made a popular decision which opens the road for many christians to pay attention to his teachings and great marketing. 1.2 billion catholics in the world. this is good for "time" magazine but kudos to the pope being chosen. he said he is not interested in honors but i think he is providing a very good image for the catholic church. i'm a jess oughted indicated guy to a little pried. martha: happy supporter i'm sure. santita, what do you think about this choice? >> i am ex

. >> reporter: this father is a jesuit and professor at georgetown university.e has spent his adult life s studies issues of social and economic justice. he also lived in argentina when pope francis was the local archbishop. how has his life there formed his view? >> coming from argentina, he grew up being exposed to high degrees oequality. >> reporter: his own family is a family of privilege? >> no, no, working class family. and he talks about the values his grandmother taught him, especially. that work has dignity. that people should be treated with respect. >> reporter: as a boy he saw inequity. as a young man he lived a secular life. before he became a priest he worked as a chemical technician and even as a nightclub bouncer. as he rose through the ranks of the church he continues to visit his neighborhoods. >> he is grounded and rooted in the stories of people's lives, and that is built in his experience. i think he is asking us to question what we understand about the world around us, and specialsly around the economic system around us. rather than discuss

especially if you're a jesuit and a scientist like tom fitzpatrick. >> i don't know if we're ever goingt to a definitive answer that satisfies every question or every person on this. it's been a very important doctrine mystery for the church over 2,000 years. it's not the most important doctrine. >> just as fascinating as jesus' family tree is the debate over just what jesus looked like. this certainly isn't a matter of doctrine, but it has always been a source of intense speculation. the centuries-old guessing game that science tells us is way off the mark. >> i could never reconcile myself to him having long blond hair and blue eyes, because he comes from a part of the world where people are basically rather swarthy, with dark hair and dark eyes. >> so, what then does science say is the true face of the son of god? ♪ female announcer: female announcer: it's time to make room for the new mattress models during sleep train's huge year end clearance sale. get beautyrest, posturepedic, even tempur-pedic mattress sets, at low clearance prices. save even more on floor samples, demonstrators

described as a pope of firsts, the first pope from the americas, the southern hemisphere and the jesuit order, he could add another to that list as the first to make waves on social media. the top 10 list released by facebook reveals a compelling set of trends this year. the election was second most popular, covering the ballots in pakistan, malaysia, to name a few. and rounding off the list were the bombings of the boston marathon, tour did he france as well as the passing of one of humanity's giants, nelson mandela. with memorial events unfolding in south africa, millions of people continue to go on to pay tributes flooding facebook with pictures and posts. from human or to humor to hope and heartache. facebook has picked up on the emotions of the world, a growing network of life today. jerald tan, al jazeera. >> you can keep up to date by all the news logging onto our website, aljazeera.com. the nelson mandela tribute, the story of apartheid on "inside story." >> hello, i'm ray suarez. the world said goodbye and thank you to nelson mandela in an emotional memorial service in a stadiu

this starts as early as from his first vows of jesuit. this is who he is and what he is used to.nd i think people are really responding to that. >> this living simply, though, is such a big break with tradition. how it is being received awrong vatican? >> that's hard to say. i think most people are delighted and the idea that the pope would be man of the year and people would be listening to them and sympathetic to the catholic church's message is really positive. there are some people that are disturbed by some of the changes he is trying to initiate. but for the most part people are delighted. >> he has gone after corruption another the vatican bank, and moved some high protile people out of positions there at the vatican. polls show him seen favorably, but when you look at the hierarchy of the church, is he 92% popular? >> well, i don't know. but remember that this conclave elected him, and one of the things they really wanted to do -- most of the cardinals talked about this before his election, was to clean up the vatican bank and reform the curi curia. and i think he is righ

greeting the first-ever jesuit pope in italian. >> i'm a jesuit boy. >> reporter: receiving a warm embracehe pope loves babies. well, we witnessed it for ourselves. so, a beautiful family from spain, living in london now. and the moment that the pope had with the entire family, wow. >> so beautiful. >> it was. >> to see him with the little ones. it was great. >> and there was something i want to share with you. the last time i was here, was just weeks before my bone marrow transplant. and i was in the vatican. and in a place where only the pope goes. and i -- you see a picture. this is me praying. i was praying for all of those who had been praying for me and my mother at the time. so, to be back here, a little over a year later, oh, my goodness. makes it that much more special. >> and to be here with him. it's great. and to think, too, nine months ago, he was elected. and we all wondered that night, what would become of the catholic church. to see what he's done in nine months, the sea change, really, has been remarkable. >> we're hearing from a lot of people on twitter saying, they're no

the first hope from the americans, the southern hem steer and the jesuit order and he can add anotherlist as the first to make waves on social media. top ten list released by facebook release a compelling snapshot of trends this year. after the pope election was second most po popular coveringe elections in pakistan. and typhoon haiyan, and then rounding out the list, the boston marathon, tour of france and the passing of one of the world's giants, nelson mandela. >> with events unfolding in south africa, millions of people go online to pay tribute floods facebook with pictures and post. s. from humor to hope and heartache, facebook has picked up the emotions of the world. becoming an every growing record of life today. al jazeera. >> that's it for this news hour on al jazeera. from the whole team in doha, thanks for watching. do stay with us here on al jazeera. precip just a little bit up here towards the north. temperatures for dallas at about 42. san antonio at 55. for houston, well, you are going to be seeing rain by the time we end the week. 59 degrees there. that will will last

a vatican statement says a jesuit priest threw a jacket on the man, tried to put it out. >> police putt out with a fire extinguisher. the man taken to hospital, serious burns. no word on his motivation. >>> and stunning video from india. you see a boy juggling a ball before a soccer game when a section of the bleachers collapses. there you go. more than 100 people injured, taken to the hospital. heavy rains in that area believed to have led to the collapse of the stands there. police filed a criminal complaint against the sports club which hosted that match. they said they were not meeting the safety requirements. >> no kidding. horrible pictures. >>> russia's president says, he envies president obama and defending his country's anti-gay laws. vladimir putin says, he's just defending russian values. that's next. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "juggle a bunch of rotating categories" card. it's not the "sign up for rewards each quarter" card. it's the no-games, no-messing-'round, no-earning-limit-having, do-i-look-like-i'm-joking, turbo-boosting, he

the jesuits are one of the biggest groups working along the border with deport he's. there are some doctors that work in some places and regular folks in these border towns. but the problem for the deport he's is that once they leave the united states, as far as the united states is concerned, the government and the population, they are no longer a problem. for the mexican government, they don't want the problem. they don't really have the resources to deal with it. so they try to ignore it to a certain degree. they are, as one doctor called them invisible people. they no longer have a state to call their own really. >> so if now not having a great deal of hope at the state level and not a great deal at the congressional level, we have seen a lot more with immigration. there are rumblings there may be further executive action and can the president do much about this problem just through his executive authority? >> he did take actions on dreamers, for instance. activists now make the case those same kinds of executive reforms should be applied more broadly to all peopl

because the pope francis i, the first from latin america, first jesuit is speaking in a way that hased off or tuned out of the church brought them back to the church. he is the biggest winner of 2013. >> you choreographed that move yourself? >> damn skippy. [ cheers and applause ] [ laughter ] >> cheers!

. >> a jesuit pope, the first, francis is determined to bring the church back to its essentials, the message of jesus, humility, love, acceptance. >>> still to come on a sunday morning you can forget the 12,000 pound crystal ball. for cities across the country there are other perhaps slightly more creative things like pickles that they will be dropping to ring in 2014. first these messages. at some, everyone's been at the corner of "new year's resolution" and "maybe i need a new new year's resolution." ♪ at walgreens, we know that starting healthy routines can be tough. that's why walgreens makes it easier with realistic and real simple solutions... everything from great deals on vitamins, supplements and fitness monitors to helpful online tools. at the corner of happy and healthy. abreva can heal a cold sore in as few as 2 1/2 days when used at the first sign. without it, the virus spreads from cell to cell. unlike other treatments, abreva penetrates deep to block the virus, to protect healthy cells so cold sores heal fast. as fast as 2 1/2 days when used at the first sign. ♪ learn

the southern hemisphere and the jesuit order, we can very well add another to that list as the firsts on social media. the top ten list reveals a compelling snapshot of trends this year. after the pope, election was second most popular, covering the ballots in pakistan kenya and malaysia to name a few. nati national disasters were a hot topic. and the bombing at the boston marathon, the tour de france as well as the passing of one of humanity's giants, nelson mandela. with memorial events unfolding in south africa, millions of people continued to go online to pay tribute. >> no way! >> reporter: from humor to hope and heart ache, facebook has picked up on the emotions of the world, become an ever-growing record of life today. >>> all right. now it's time for sports. here is jo. >> thank you very much. it may have come 17 hours late, but they have booked their place in the last 16 of the uefa champion's league. the teams picked up where they left off 32ing minutes in, with more snow falling in istanbul. wesley snyder denied the goal in the 85th minute. he scored. that put them into th

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the highest of value was. 33 years ago when the social worker and just what priest came together -- jesuit priest came together, they chose the name to designate the dignity and being one who serves. but how many people work? >> 80 of us. there are 10,000 volunteers. some of them in grade school making sandwiches and for clock, a -- 4:00, we have drivers and children from the local grade school who come into the reading buddies with the children in the childcare system. we have thrift stores that serve people. we have people in their hanging up things and bringing in clothing. we rely on the whole community to make martha's table work. only 80 of us come in every day. >> how many people do you serve every day? >> about 2000. we expanded recently. our grocery program. many people think of us as a soup kitchen. we do both but we know that most hunger and poverty is actually in the home. the empty cupboard after the end of the month. the mother who was cutting back her own food to ensure the child has enough to eat. and in these recent snap benefits make that even a worse with many of the sam

the first jesuit pope. and i think that's enormously important. the places where the church is growing, where its influence is spreading is outside of europe, it's outside of north america by and large and so he has among the things that he's doing institutionally in trying to stir up change in the vatican is he has this council of cardinals. they're not from rome. they fear from chile and congo and honduras and india and australia and boston. and it's a much broader reach. who he's will be to, who he's talking to. he feels like a global pope but also a perish priest. the. >> rose: i've talked to certainly dolan and other cardinals because i was there at the time of the conclave they were surprised a bit. even though he came in second the previous time. the favorite was not him going in. >> he was also set to retire. he had picked out his retirement. he's 76. he had picked out his retirement home and people have known him for a long time are quite struck by the transformation in him personally this year he is animate bid joy. he seems younger. he

one of the interesting stories about the pope is that he led a jesuit community down in argentina andas the leader of this group of 30 or 40 men, he would get up every morning at 5:30 to do the laundry for the entire community. 30 or 40 men. so it's a guy who likes to get his hands dirty, you could say. >> he does define the word humble. what's been the public reaction to this latest revelation, if you like? >> yeah, i mean this is a pope who knows how to get people talking and they're certainly talking about this bouncer revelation. there is people calling him the velvet rope pope. >> that's cute. >> a former spokes -- former speechwriter for president obama suggested that we write a sit-com about the pope's experience and call it "heaven can wait and so can you." and then there are some people who on our blog and other places are saying we get it, pope francis. you're cool. now we need to know whether he can translate the coolness factor into what is his primary job, getting people to take a second or third look at the catholic church. >> that will be the mammoth task in some circle

snuck out at night to minister to the homeless, has been completely unafraid of pursuing this very jesuit ideology within the catholic framework that's all about the poor, the downtrodden, the needy, and in a way seems like a repudiation of previous popes. >> he's shockingly christian. >> how refreshing. >> how refreshing. he's given up the red slippers, given up the papal vestments. putting on his sensible black shoes and sneaking out in the middle of the night to minister. >> in a ford focus. >> yeah, in a ford focus. i am crazy about him. i think most people are because he's just -- he is just so refreshing. it's interesting, you know, the left is so relieved because finally a personal is speaking with open heart. i don't know why that's a left position, but it involves people who are, you know, gays and it's not so judgmental toward people who have made choices that the church does teach against. then you've got conservatives who are riled up because he's actually open hearted. you know, so i don't get it. but anyway, it's a delight to watch him do his thing. >> it's a bit like, in my

. >> i think your passion for the jesuits and the catholic schools and a version of the culture conversation>> we used to recite, the annan smack would have us for site the partridge in a pear tree and we would add to it every day coming back for much time. we would study for an hour. we would study every lesson we had up until then reciting it. mother is the memory of education. everything is parroted back over and over again and that is the way the nuns taught. >> there are two things why this is surprising. i thought coming in, let everybody be themselves and they will be incredible things that happen. let everybody figured out for themselves. take the brilliant guys in the brilliant when -- women and let them figure it all out. that is where i came from only started. my bias was there. we are going to find that so let's find it in the research that is the case. i had my bias is too. i also want to catholic schools and i was like that can't be the way. [laughter] as i said the research was more and more prescriptive and i said to myself when i was doing the research, let's say i was a top