, he punches jesus in the face, and he beats jesus up? would jesus say, "ooh, i forgive you," or would he fight back, pssht! and knock that man out of heaven. i just can't see a situation where somebody would get into heaven and-and-and punch, uh, jesus. ben: and also... the message in the bible is that we should forgive, and it was important that jesus died for us. he died to save us all. that's a bit selfish of humankind, isn't it? well, couldn't he find another way, like writing to somebody to tell them to be a bit better? otherwise, something bad's gonna happen, or like-- or like-- oh, goodness. oh, look, i really must be-- when jesus was being crucified... actually, uh, i just realized there's a few people i must go and speak to. ...ask god to send a meteorite and destroy all the troops of the romans who were... well, it was the way god choose to sacrifice his only son. he wanted to show us how important it was, so he chose the most precious thing in the world to him, and the most precious thing in the world to him was jesus. but the

>> lots of people believe in jesus christ, it is what you believe about jesus christ that determinesther or not you are going to heaven or hell when you die. the bible says whoever calls upon the name of the lord will be saved. i don't think that anyone goes to heaven or hell in a group. we all go individually based on what we have decided to do with jesus christ as our savior. it is mitt romney is a mormon and embraces the mormon faith, mormonism is not christianity. mormons have said all along that they were not a part of historic christianity. they say that the christian church was corrupt from the time of the apostles. 1829 when joseph smith came. they have never embraced historical christianity by their own admission. >> what will happen to mr. romney when he dies? >> i have no idea. if he is trusted in jesus christ, the jesus christ of the bible, to save him from his sins, he will be in heaven. if he has stressed it in some other god or no god, he will spend eternity separated from god. all of us are sinners, not just mormons, baptist, anglicans. we have all sinned. we have all

preached today like he preached in dalia ♪ ♪ they would lay jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ jesus wasalled judas ♪ ♪ he late jesus christ in his grave ♪ there's an unrecorded verse written down in woody's book in hard hitting songs for hard hitting people, never recorded. ♪ ♪ it is the love of the poor the one day turn to hate ♪ ♪ and in the patience of the workers fades away ♪ ♪ it will be better for you rich if you have never been poor ♪ ♪ if you laid jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ jesus was a man and a carpenter by man with followers true in the brave ♪ ♪ but that the dirty little covered the call judis laden jesus christ ♪ ♪ late jesus christ ♪ they leave jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ [applause] that song was indeed written in 1940 and was the end of an iraq because the previous year president roosevelt announced the experts of the new deal was being officially wound up and the government resources were being redirected to concentrate on the increasingly shall we say global issues, and so it is the bitter cold and new years of 1940 woody guthrie decided to make new york city his ho

♪ but that dirty little coward, that they called judas escariot, he laid jesus christ, laid jesus christod bless america. now, there are two ways of reading that song, you know, you could read it as the fervent and fearful hope of a russian jues immigrant to the united states irving per lynn who's watching the live of fascism in europe and praying it's not coming here. woodie saw it as yet another unbelievable assertion from the industry that there could possibly be an unearthly solution to earthly promise. he hated this song so much that he sat down an angry song in response to it and it became his most popular. nearly 30 years later after woodie had finally died from the huntington disease that he inherited from his mother that silenced him from the 19 '60s and 19 '70s he described the song's history. i remember him coming home from the hospital and taking me out to the backyard just him and me and him teaching me the last three versus to this land is your land because he thinks that if i don't learn them, no one will remember them. his friends think hem drunk and crazy and they stick

what would jesus do? what jesus occupy wall street? here's one response. your responses next with our carol costello. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with three strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. over a million people have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. consumers er wanchai ferry orange chicken... over p.f. chang's home menu orange chicken women men and uh pandas... elbows mmm [ male announcer ] wanchai ferry, try it yourself. >>> hello to carol costello once again. she's been looking to your responses to today's "talkback" question. just generally, what kind of responses you getting? >> we almost set a record today. the question, would jesus occupy wall street? this from robert -- jesus would not be concerned about politic

jesus and halloween go together like jesus and peanut butter. you got your spooky in my christ.my spooky. think about it. jesus rose from the dead. he's the original zombie. except you eat his body. it's true. therefore it is not offensive. [laughter] to no letters please. so go out this year and celebrate jesus-ween. we'll know it's caught on when we start seeing the sexy jesus costume. we'll be right back. [cheering and applause] [cheering and applause] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight says the ncaa should share profits with college athlete. he is wrong. please welcome taylor branch. [cheering and applause] thank you very much. thank you so much for joining me, sir. okay. sir, let's get this out here. you are the pulitzer prize winning historian and authorment some of the great books on the civil rights era. now you have a new book. it is available as an e book. i got it right here in my i.book library. okay. it is called the cartel. all right. what is "the cartel." >> the cartel is the ncaa, which without benefit of government sanction or law has gotten t

this is called just like jesus. if i get struck down by thunder. just like jesus. i want childhood to be, evading teen angst. always. i want to encourage and motivate just like jesus. few literates could conquer. simply by having faith, i want to arouse. make you believe there's a god above watching over us. without scientific explanation. i want to cast out your demons. liberate your oppressed soul. bring back lost friends. just like jesus, be a shameless pervert while with the possibility of sexism and paternal. just like jesus, i want to hear the voice of my farther. bask in the stars, this is not an end but a beginning. a sepia tone of martarism. i want my engage capturred. to frame the minds of ignorants. while blindly following leaders. i want to be nestled, half naked against your chest. claiming your spirit when you come. with the promise of salvation. i simply want to life before i die. i have two more poems. this is all new. wrote it for harold bloom. he first called it the death of art and. reading well is one the greatest pleasures. i am dedicating to h

. >> he said are you talking about jesus to people. i said if they ask me. you are a police officer and you ask me, i have to defend my faith. he said that can make problems. >> remember thos on the street? they said tunis niec>> it makes hurts me a little bit. but it is her choice. >> the government, what do you think the government should say something? >> no.>> i am so proud to be a muslim girl. but i believe everyone has the right to choose what he wants. >> young tunisia people want better jobs and a better economy. 15-29 are unemployed. the war in neighboring libya has brought added economic pressures. tens of thousands of libyan women and children have poured over the border. >> we join these libyan refugee children. they are having lunch, beans and rice. three meals a day in this camp. >> how long have you been here? [ foreign speaking ]>> these ten libyan families were given temporary housing by this tunisia man. they were surprised by his hoes pi hospitality. the president in tatawine provided free medical care. while they are happy to help the ref

many muslims have had dreams and visions about jesus in iraq. god's even doing that to help move the gospel along. in new what about here at home, tom. don't we have the danger, perhaps, with the american involvement with troops out of iraq. christians and others will lose interest in iraq? >> i do think iraq is going to stay in the news. they have gotten so chumy with iran. that spells a bigger problem down the road. gary, we may have accidentally recreated the persian empire if iran and iraq get back together. for believers in america, pray for the iraqy believers and iranian believers, they need it. >> what do christians and others need to do for iraqi brothers and sisters? >> intercession is important. they can get online and help church planters that have very little resources. i heard from an iraqi leader, they are all the sudden doubling the rent. he maybe out on the street with his family. lots of financial needs, they can get on websites, e-3 partners reaching out to people in iraq. >> tom doyle, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank

this is what jesus christ said. this is what jesus said, "and the king would say to those,, you who are blessed by my father. take my inheritance. i was hungry and you gave me something to eat. i was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. i was a stranger and you invited me in. i needed clothes and you clothed me. i was sit and you healed me. i was in prison and you came to visit me." that was not jesus talking about some side issue. that was him talking about what his ministry was about. this was about taking care of the poor. tavis: i almost shouted out of my chair, on national television when i hear people like joe scarborough, republicans, people on the right suggesting that all of us have a responsibility to the poor. what do you here -- what do you think about hearing people on the right discussing poverty? >> i was on the show a few weeks back and he said the same thing. he said there is a new generation of matthew 25 christians. that crosses boundaries, it really is saying and what the profits said in t

they both belief in jesus christ. they both are -- believe in their faith and in you yourself say are good people. >> right. anderson, again this is not the only criteria that we use to select a leader. in fact, i didn't mention the word cult or mitt romney in my introduction of governor perry today. >> you said it right after you left the stage in an interview and you said it plenty of times before, over the years, going back to 2007. >> that's right. again, i'm not labelling mitt romney as a bad person or mormones as bad people. >> but you say he's a member of a cult. >> yes. but anderson, if i were to say to you, you know, anderson, you're not a republican. i don't think you would say -- disagree with that. i would say that not because i think you're a bad person, but you don't hold the basic tenants of the republican party. >> obviously, you don't know that about me. but saying somebody is a republican is not a value judgment. saying that they're in a cult is a value judgment. i mean it's an incendiary term. >> no

but it's the jesus christ who came to north america in the 1800s, not the jesus christ of the bible. it doesn't have the traditional belief about heaven and hell. it teaches a works-oriented type of salvation. so for those of us who are evangelicals, there is a difference. and as i cited in that poll, 75% of protestant pastors believe that there's a vast difference between mormonism and biblical christianity. >> last point on religion, it's not my strength, but let me ask you this, do you believe, as a christian, and you're a christian, do you believe that mormon people believe that jesus christ was god? >> well, you know what i've learned -- >> you said, "well," is that the answer, well? >> no. >> do you believe they're christians, in other words? to that central point. >> well, i don't believe all baptists are christians. i'm a baptist, i don't believe all baptists are christians, all catholics are christians, or all mormons are christians. nobody goes to heaven in a group, chris. we go individually to heaven or hell, personally based on what we believe in jesus christ. >> you're v

they both belief in jesus christ. they both are -- believe in their faith and in you yourself say are good people. >> right. anderson, again this is not the only criteria that we use to select a leader. in fact, i didn't mention the word cult or mitt romney in my introduction of governor perry today. >> you said it right after you left the stage in an interview and you said it plenty of times before, over the years, going back to 2007. >> that's right. again, i'm not labelling mitt romney as a bad person or mormones as bad people. >> but you say he's a member of a cult. >> yes. but anderson, if i were to say to you, you know, anderson, you're not a republican. i don't think you would say -- disagree with that. i would say that not because i think you're a bad person, but you don't hold the basic tenants of the republican party. >> obviously, you don't know that about me. but saying somebody is a republican is not a value judgment. saying that they're in a cult is a value judgment. i mean it's an incendiary term. >> no

we will continue until the christians can worship jesus christ without fear. >> and you can learn more about the church in north korea and >> welcome back to "christian world news." south sudan national anthem gives thanks to god. south sudan gained independence in a peace treaty ending a 20-year bloody civil war. recently a ministry sent us a verse from their national anthem. it says oh god, we praise and glorify you for your grace on south sudan, land of great abundance. uphold us united in peace and harmony. >> that is pretty cool. >>> a high speed cat ma ran became a link to independence for hundreds of handicapped people in singal last month. >> stan jeter reports that it reached the people that needed it the most. >> reporter: the hs 2 swift moves faster than anything in the u.s. navy. it serves as a good will ambassador delivering humanitarian cargo. when the swift arrived in decar, they donated wheelchairs. >> it is a three-wheeled chair and has a compartment underneath the seat where people can put stuff. >> john castle worked with the christian hospital to deliver the chairs

they want jesus and they want a particular kind of jesus.liver that jesus to them. so it's a very different situation for them politically. >> reporter: so what do mormons believe? they believe in jesus and the bible as a holy book, but they also hold the book of mormon in equal esteem and say god still speaks to living church leaders. they meet weekly in chapels, but their temples are reserved for the most important ceremonies which only the faithful may attend. baptisms which can be performed on behalf of people who have been dead for years, weddings, which are believed to bind families together for eternity. good mormons drink no alcohol, tea or coffee and eat meat in moderation. many wear special undergarments as reminders of their faith and go on missions for up to two years with little family contact. they believe ancient humans came to north america, the garden of eden was in missouri and in a rare interview a few years back, church apostle russell ballard told our gary tuchman, jesus came here, too. >> we know that he came and touche

so go outar and jesus-ween.e'll know it's caught on when[cheering and applause] my guest tonight s ncaa college athlete. wrong. thank you so muc okay. get this out here. you are authorment great books on i gere in my okay. it is called the cartel. all right. is is thea, whichhe colleg in to keep all money away from the college athletes who actually do the are we paid. they just... the an internship with concussions. okay? >> i think a l course, h it iantation. not... >> stephen: wait, wait wait,tation? >> not plantation, ae plantation. i mean... so you say they're >> dollars in int the dull, the the fooators and the companies can take all the money. >> stephen: but you realize that are you saying they're beingreated as slaves?alhey being treated as slave >> stephen: okay. realize says treat slaves. all r athletes animals? because that is racist sir. [cheering and applause] >> whales pass. >> oh, oh, they those whales to do anything. i certainly woulwant to be't sam knew.he pl mo because getting something of valu

i mean, you both believe in jesus, right?yes. >> jon: as long as a republican candidate believes in the basic tenets, i am the way, the truth and the life. no one comes to the father except through me. >> that is a good one. >> jon: let the one amongst you who is without sin be the first to cast the stone. >> you're right. >> we are fighting about the silly problem. >> jon: if you want to be perfect go sell your possessions and give to the poor. you will treasure in heaven. >> okay. >> jon: the man with two tunics should share with me who has none and the one who has food should do the same. >> no, no, no. >> no, no, no. what kind of occupy wall street (beep) is that? >> i'm pretty sure that jesus was a free market guy. >> jon: i'm just quoting scripture. >> aha. >> woo-hoo. >> jon: samantha ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: welcome back. hold on. do you want to see darth vader in a bra and panties? hold on. welcome back. also when we were last on the air, the protest known as occupy wall street were in their infancy. let's che

> i agree, and article six of the constitution -- >> they say they are christians, they believe in jesus christ. >> a lot of people say they are christians, but they are not. i, again, believe as christians we have the duty to prefer and select christians as our leaders. that's what jon jay, the first chief justice of the supreme court said, and again, i think when we have a choice as evangelicals between a rick perry and mitt romney, i believe we go with rick perry. >> shortly after, a spokesperson for the church of lader day saints failed to comment. those who want to learn about the centrality of our faith -- joining us now, pastor, thanks very much for being with us. why do you believe the mormon church is a cult? >> well, again, when i talk about a cult, anderson, i'm talking about a theological cult as opposed to a sociological cult. theologically a cult is a religion with a human founder versus a devine founder. and secondly, cults tend to look at other religious text outside the bible for their guidance -- mormonism, for example, certainly accepts the bible, but it accepts the ne

our leader is jesus christ. joseph smith is founder of the mormon church. we believe the bible is god's sole revelation to man. so by a theological definition, not a sociological definition, theological definition, they are a cult. but again, so few of your viewers probably care about that for conservatives, there are many more pressing issues regarding the presidency and especially why we need a consistent conservative like rick perry than a recent damascus road convert to conservative principles like mitt romney. >> dr. jeffers. from governor perry, the only statement we could get from him he does not believe mormonisms a couple. does that make governor perry any less of a christian because he doesn't agree with you? >> new york not at all. many christians would disagree, possibly some of my own church members, john. but it's in all how define the terms. i don't think this is the big issue of mormonism being a cult or not. it's how you define the term. i think the reali issue is we republicans need a conservative one out of conviction, not out of convenie

it holds that he saw a vision of god and jesus who told him not to join existing churches.er he translatedly the book of mormons from an ancient text. in addition to the bible, it is considered the complete word of god. >> mormons believe the book of mormonmormons is a canonical sc, has the same status as the hebrew bible and the christian new testament. they often refer to it as another testament of jesus christ. >> reporter: but another of joseph smith's revelations also led to a practice the mormon church has since denounce the, polygamy, when the church ended in 1890. >> i think the practice of polygamy among mormons in the 19th century has produced a misunderstanding, even though the church is clear that polygamy is no longer acceptable there is still the association in the mind of many americans. >> reporter: there are areas of common ground. mormons, like many religious conservatives, oppose botherses as well as same-sex marriage russ. >> mitchell: in new york, the occupy wall street unit is into its fourth weekend. today the movable protest moved uptown. thousands r

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in the book of mormon, jesus christ is said to have visited america in 34 a.d. joining us from new york, a practicing mormon who has written extensively on the mormon culture and the latter day saints. thank you for coming in. when you look at the big differences, specifically one of the thing many evangelicals say they find it implausible. some say impossible, is this idea that jesus appeared in the americas in 34 a.d. when you have differences in teachings, do you at least understand the core of the disagreements and the questions? >> well, that is one thing that they look at. the whole book of mormon story of having prophets here in america. much as in jerusalem in ancient times. and then culminating in christ's visit. that is disturbing because most christians and certainly evangelical christians put all their confidence in the bible. in the bible story. that is the one source of revelation and truth. and mormons have simply expand that had picture to say there are other people in the world, including people in america who had prophets and who saw the savior