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my idea of religious extremism is what you call a jesus freak. >> in the 60's, jesus freaks were i think called the god spell area, almost an outshoot of the hippies. in their view, it brought about vatican two, for example a lot of liberalization of the church and religious institutions. when i think of jesus freaks, i think of the inclusion of jesus who loved 16ers as well as saints. i don't think that's where rick santorum is coming from. >> you're bringing way too many facts into this argument and we won't have it on this program ok? no no, can't have it. [ laughter ] >> to the larger point rebekah a lot of people see that and say oh, my god this is so wrong we can't talk about this, that should be out of bounds asen issue. i think we should counter attack. i don't think they belong in the public sphere. >> when he said j.f.k. said religious people weren't welcome in the public sphere which is the opposite of what he said. he said all religious people and others should be in the public square but not shoving their religion down people's throats. can we get back to or on to his secret

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that would made her slightly older than jesus, but both in their 20's when they pier met. >> you see jesus' ministry lasting longer than has come down through convention. isn't it commonly thought his active ministry lasted about three years. >> the estimate that jesus' ministry lasted only three years is based upon the fact in the gospels, all the actions is compressed. the reason for that compression is that the gospels were written for the purpose of preparing people for baptism, teaching them the nature of the christian faith. ordinaryily, that took approximately one year. >> you think she could have been an outcast? >> it is most likely she was because of the seven demons. >> was it because of her place of birth which was that fishing town. >> the fishing town had a great deal to do with her background, both because it shows her involvement in the local economy of the area, but even more strikingly, because during her lifetime and during jesus' lifetime, mag dala became a service community for the larger city called tiber just which has been bill by the governor and which was kno

he erupted into a bizarre outburst running around the cabin literally yelling incoherently about jesus sat would make people freak out if they're passengers. when he was in the cockpit, he turned off the radios, dimmed his control monitors. he was restrained after he tried to break back into the cockpit. joining us this morning is aviation attorney and former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation and also licensed commercial pilot. nice to have you both. mary, i'll start with you. what explains this? when you heard this story unfolding with incredible details, what did you first think? >> my first thought is there was something wrong physically with the pilot. this has happened before although not with a pilot in this manner. there have been passengers. one had meningitis and was not literally not able to grasp reality. there have been passengers who have had reactions to drugs. there have been pilots who have died in the cockpit. my first reaction was the man was kick but the passengers helped the co-pilot get the situation under control. >> if you read the crimina

that would made her slightly older than jesus, but both in their 20's when they pier met. >> you see jesus' ministry lasting longer than has come down through convention. isn't it commonly thought his active ministry lasted about three years. >> the estimate that jesus' ministry lasted only three years is based upon the fact in the gospels, all the actions is compressed. the reason for that compression is that the gospels were written for the purpose of preparing people for baptism, teaching them the nature of the christian faith. ordinaryily, that took approximately one year. >> you think she could have been an outcast? >> it is most likely she was because of the seven demons. >> was it because of her place of birth which was that fishing town. >> the fishing town had a great deal to do with her background, both because it shows her involvement in the local economy of the area, but even more strikingly, because during her lifetime and during jesus' lifetime, mag dala became a service community for the larger city called tiber just which has been bill by the governor and which was kno

jesus and september 11th. he was already locked out of the cockpit telling his co- pilot things just don't matter. tonight he's facing charges of interfering with a flight crew. fox 5's barnard has more. >> yes, airline passengers have something new to think about before boarding their next flight. is the pilot mentally fit to nye. did you take an extra look -- fly. did you take an extra look inside the cockpit? >> yes, i did. everything seems fine and fortunately we did land safely without incident. >> captain clayton osbon was carried off the jetblue airliner in texas tuesday after a mysterious midair meltdown. >> reporter: you were face to face -- >> we were face to face, me and the captain wrestled a little bit and i got him turned around and then other passengers jumped on. we all got on top of him. >> in this cell phone video from on board flight 191 new york's jfk to las vegas you can hear captain osbon yelling oh, my god, i'm so distraught. we've got israel. we've got iraq. listen. >> oh, my god. i'm so distraught. we got israel. we got iraq. >> the veteran pilot was detained eventually by passengers and crew members, later arrested and now grounded. his co-p

s. the 429 horsepower genesis r-spec. from hyundai. >>> here are some other top stories making headlines right now. the church of jesusist of latter-day saints has put in new measures to block people from approaching access to its genealogical database. the move follows reports that members of the church had conducted proxy baptisms for jewish holocaust victims and slain jewish journalist dan pearl. >> we're getting word of a shoot-out in dallas. according to an affiliate, the suspect was killed and the armored car driver was hospitalized after being shot in the arm. he opened fire when the armored car arrived at a check cashing business and the armored car driver returned fire. >>> the pope is speaking out against gay marriage. he calls the church's stance a question of judgment. he criticizes those when it comes to defining marriage. he called on the audience of american bishops to stand up to those who support gay marriage. >>> facebook co-founder chris hughes has bought a majority stake in the 98-year-old. the new republic is known as the key voice of american progre progressivene progressiveness. >>> he posed as