>> lots of people believe in jesus christ, it is what you believe about jesus christ that determinesther or not you are going to heaven or hell when you die. the bible says whoever calls upon the name of the lord will be saved. i don't think that anyone goes to heaven or hell in a group. we all go individually based on what we have decided to do with jesus christ as our savior. it is mitt romney is a mormon and embraces the mormon faith, mormonism is not christianity. mormons have said all along that they were not a part of historic christianity. they say that the christian church was corrupt from the time of the apostles. 1829 when joseph smith came. they have never embraced historical christianity by their own admission. >> what will happen to mr. romney when he dies? >> i have no idea. if he is trusted in jesus christ, the jesus christ of the bible, to save him from his sins, he will be in heaven. if he has stressed it in some other god or no god, he will spend eternity separated from god. all of us are sinners, not just mormons, baptist, anglicans. we have all sinned. we have all

♪ ♪ late jesus christ ♪ they leave jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ [applause] that song was indeed writtenp and the government resources were being redirected to concentrate on the increasingly shall we say global issues, and so it is the bitter cold and new years of 1940 woody guthrie decided to make new york city his home and he is hitchhiking north and east out of texas and seemed on every car radio and every roadhouse jukebox he hears what appears to him to be the latest self righteous complacent patriotic author from tin pan alley. this is 3940. kate smith singing god bless america. now, there are two ways of reading the song. you could read it as the servant and fearful hope of a russian jewish immigrant to the united states who was watching nervously the rise of fascism in europe and praying that it will not hear. that's one way of reading it. it is and how woody is all this. he saw it as yet another unbelievable assertions from the industry that there could possibly be an on merkley solution to the earthly problems. he hated this song so much that he sat down and wrote an angry son

was a hard-working man and brave ♪ ♪ he set to the rich area goods out with the poor so they lay jesus christo they called jesus christ on the sly ♪ ♪ jest was a man and a carpenter by the hand with followers true and brave ♪ ♪ but that dirty little coward that they called judas escariot, well, he laid jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ and people held their breath when they learned about his death ♪ ♪ and everybody wondered why ♪ it was the landlords and the lawyers and the soldiers that he hired ♪ ♪ that nailed jesus christ in the sky ♪ ♪ oh, this song was written down in new york city ♪ ♪ of rich men and preacher and slave ♪ ♪ and if jesus preached today like he preached in galilee ♪ ♪ they would lay jesus in his grave ♪ ♪ jesus was a carpenter by hand with followers true and brave ♪ ♪ but that dirty little coward that they call judas escariot, he lay jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ now there's a unrecorded verse it's written down in woodie's book hard hitting songs for hard hitting people, never recorded ♪ ♪ now if the love of the poor should one day turn to hate, and the patience of the workers

but it's the jesus christ who came to north america in the 1800s, not the jesus christ of the bible. it doesn't have the traditional belief about heaven and hell. it teaches a works-oriented type of salvation. so for those of us who are evangelicals, there is a difference. and as i cited in that poll, 75% of protestant pastors believe that there's a vast difference between mormonism and biblical christianity. >> last point on religion, it's not my strength, but let me ask you this, do you believe, as a christian, and you're a christian, do you believe that mormon people believe that jesus christ was god? >> well, you know what i've learned -- >> you said, "well," is that the answer, well? >> no. >> do you believe they're christians, in other words? to that central point. >> well, i don't believe all baptists are christians. i'm a baptist, i don't believe all baptists are christians, all catholics are christians, or all mormons are christians. nobody goes to heaven in a group, chris. we go individually to heaven or hell, personally based on what we believe in jesus christ. >> you're v

searching for victims how victims of the war in bosnia are finding hope and healing through jesus christ. welcome everyone to "christian world news." i am wendy griffith, george thomas is on vacation. president obama's announcement that all u.s. troops will be out of iraq by the end of year is getting mixed reviews. many with ties to the military are grateful, it is not unanimous. some fear iran will gain greter influence over that country. mark martin reports. >> reporter: troops in iraq will become more frequent. some troops had been away more than a year, many on third or fourth deployment. in san diego military families are looking forward to military families coming home. some are cautiously optimistic and weary of politics. >> republican presidential candidates have serious reservations of pulling out the remaining troops. >> this administration has telegraphed its intentions all too often and that is just not acceptable. >> some of the toughest words came last night at an iowa conservative faith forum from newt gingrich. >> after eight lives, thousands of lives, hundreds of billio

people like pastor youssef and others are putting their life on the line for jesus christ. more muslims are coming to christ but it is not enough. that zone is such a dangerous zone. i don't have influence ultimately over what united states and israeli government does in that corridor. if we mobilize the church to do what our job is fearlessly proclaim the gospel and make discipl disciples, this is the key for this moment in history. >>> up next, faith in fin lan land, a media media caaign is impacted the gospel. >> in one of europe's northern most cities, conversations on the street recently turned to jesus christ and his power to change lives. in new that was the message of a month-long media campaign in finland where protestant nation has been on the decline. now signs of a downward trend maybe reversing. stan jeter has the story. >> in downtown hillsinki carried church-sponsored ads prompting a city-wide discussion. it even had the secular media talking. in new they are asking why are the churches coming out in such force and through such visibility? what is the message

we will continue until the christians can worship jesus christ without fear. >> and you can learn more about the church in north korea and >> welcome back to "christian world news." south sudan national anthem gives thanks to god. south sudan gained independence in a peace treaty ending a 20-year bloody civil war. recently a ministry sent us a verse from their national anthem. it says oh god, we praise and glorify you for your grace on south sudan, land of great abundance. uphold us united in peace and harmony. >> that is pretty cool. >>> a high speed cat ma ran became a link to independence for hundreds of handicapped people in singal last month. >> stan jeter reports that it reached the people that needed it the most. >> reporter: the hs 2 swift moves faster than anything in the u.s. navy. it serves as a good will ambassador delivering humanitarian cargo. when the swift arrived in decar, they donated wheelchairs. >> it is a three-wheeled chair and has a compartment underneath the seat where people can put stuff. >> john castle worked with the christian hospital to deliver the chairs

our leader is jesus christ. joseph smith is founder of the mormon church. we believe the bible is god's sole revelation to man. so by a theological definition, not a sociological definition, theological definition, they are a cult. but again, so few of your viewers probably care about that for conservatives, there are many more pressing issues regarding the presidency and especially why we need a consistent conservative like rick perry than a recent damascus road convert to conservative principles like mitt romney. >> dr. jeffers. from governor perry, the only statement we could get from him he does not believe mormonisms a couple. does that make governor perry any less of a christian because he doesn't agree with you? >> new york not at all. many christians would disagree, possibly some of my own church members, john. but it's in all how define the terms. i don't think this is the big issue of mormonism being a cult or not. it's how you define the term. i think the reali issue is we republicans need a conservative one out of conviction, not out of convenie

they both belief in jesus christ. they both are -- believe in their faith and in you yourself say are good people. >> right. anderson, again this is not the only criteria that we use to select a leader. in fact, i didn't mention the word cult or mitt romney in my introduction of governor perry today. >> you said it right after you left the stage in an interview and you said it plenty of times before, over the years, going back to 2007. >> that's right. again, i'm not labelling mitt romney as a bad person or mormones as bad people. >> but you say he's a member of a cult. >> yes. but anderson, if i were to say to you, you know, anderson, you're not a republican. i don't think you would say -- disagree with that. i would say that not because i think you're a bad person, but you don't hold the basic tenants of the republican party. >> obviously, you don't know that about me. but saying somebody is a republican is not a value judgment. saying that they're in a cult is a value judgment. i mean it's an incendiary term. >> no

they both belief in jesus christ. they both are -- believe in their faith and in you yourself say are good people. >> right. anderson, again this is not the only criteria that we use to select a leader. in fact, i didn't mention the word cult or mitt romney in my introduction of governor perry today. >> you said it right after you left the stage in an interview and you said it plenty of times before, over the years, going back to 2007. >> that's right. again, i'm not labelling mitt romney as a bad person or mormones as bad people. >> but you say he's a member of a cult. >> yes. but anderson, if i were to say to you, you know, anderson, you're not a republican. i don't think you would say -- disagree with that. i would say that not because i think you're a bad person, but you don't hold the basic tenants of the republican party. >> obviously, you don't know that about me. but saying somebody is a republican is not a value judgment. saying that they're in a cult is a value judgment. i mean it's an incendiary term. >> no

but it's the jesus christ who came to north america, you know, in the 1800's, not the jesus christ of the bible. chris: one of the most recent nbc news, "wall street journal" poll, 47% say they're comfortable with a mormon being president, namely mitt romney. in a new poll, voters had to come up with one term or phrase that comes to mind for each leading republican. for herman cain it was 999. for rick perry, it was texas. and for romney, it was the single word, mormon. it's come to be so salient, david, and this is tricky business. i don't want to talk about religion but the old question comes back, does he have to clear the air? does he have to play offense or can he simply say it's my business, it's my religion, focus on my politics? >> presumably he'll try to say it's personal, it's none of your business, but to be honest, chris, he'll be thinking about the great example of how to deal with this successfully which is jack kennedy in 1960 and, not to flatter our host too much, but the best account i've read of is in your new book about j.f.k. you ought to share with all, how did j.

the church of jesus christ christ of latter day saints, says it is a christian faith. do you agree?i believe that they believe that they're christian. >> he says he's a christian. >> this is so inconsequential as far as this campaign is concerned. >> it reminded us a bit of questions not too long ago about whether the president of the united states was a christian. >> can you just state very clearly that president obama is a christian and he is a citizen of the united states? >> well, that is not for me to state. that's for the president to state. >> the president says he's a christian. i accept him at his word. >>> the president said he's a christian. i take him at his word. >> why does this happen? >> well, there are going to be these differences. i think some campaigns think that perhaps they have an advantage by getting into this. but the bottom line is -- >> what's the advantage? to appeal to a tiny slice of evangelicals who can't stomach mormonism or think it's a cult? >> or to establish that they're different than the voter, to create a wedge between the voter and that person

and jesus christ is the only way we can return to live with our heavenly father. >> yeah, well -- we could get into an in-depth theological discussion and put everyone to sleep out there. >> i'm fine to putting people to sleep as long as we're educating people. >> well -- this is not a new position. no, i would not consider them a cult, i would consider that catholicism, the basis of catholicism teaches a person is made right with god by faith in christ and good works, a number of good works, but historic christianity has said we are saved by faith and christ alone. i wouldn't label it a cult but would say its basic tenants are contrary to the teaching of the new testament. >> hindus, buddhists, islam, cults? >> yes, bible says very clearly only those who trust in christ as their savior will be saved in heaven. jesus made that clear when he said i'm the way, the truth, and the life. >> why the difference between rick perry and romney, there are political differences, but why base your decision on the closest, most core-held believes of these two men. they both believe in jesus christ

. >> i believe that jesus christ is the son of god and the savior of mankind. that the four years on, his faith is still alive. a close family friend speaks. >> as long as people recognize him as the turnaround by for the olympics and governor and businesses, more men is every bit as part of him, and i do not think he will ever shy away from that. >> would it be easier if he was not a mormon? >> at this point, probably yes. on the other hand, who knows where he would be without his mormon faith? >> it will be in south carolina that mitt romney's faith will face its first electoral test. >> south carolina is particularly dangerous territory. i was here in 2008 that he was unceremoniously crushed. it is home to some of the darkest of in republican campaigning and home to an evangelical christian community that has little time for mormons.

. >> reporter: mormons believe jesus christ was the savior, the son of god, but unlike protestants, catholics other christians, mormons also believe in a prophet named joseph smith. it holds that he saw a vision of god and jesus who told him not to join existing churches. later he translatedly the book of mormons from an ancient text. in addition to the bible, it is considered the complete word of god. >> mormons believe the book of mormonmormons is a canonical sc, has the same status as the hebrew bible and the christian new testament. they often refer to it as another testament of jesus christ. >> reporter: but another of joseph smith's revelations also led to a practice the mormon church has since denounce the, polygamy, when the church ended in 1890. >> i think the practice of polygamy among mormons in the 19th century has produced a misunderstanding, even though the church is clear that polygamy is no longer acceptable there is still the association in the mind of many americans. >> reporter: there are areas of common ground. mormons, like many religious conservatives, oppose botherses a

if jesus christ was sitting here he would saying this same thing. things together and and things together. they will call us some bad things but jesus doesn't care if it is socialism or communism or me and you. it is significant his ballad of jesus christ makes this connection with the holy outlaw even stronger because he bases the tune and the format -- he rips off 100% the tune and format from the american ally ballad jesse james. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> there is an unrecorded fierce that is written down. a hard-hitting song for hard-hitting people. never recorded. ♪ if the love of the court should one day turn to hate ♪ and the patient of the workers fade away ♪ it will be better for you rich ♪ if you had never been born ♪ that you laid jesus christ in his grave ♪ ♪ ♪ [applause] >> that song was written in 1940 and was the end of an era because the previous year president roosevelt announced the great social experiment of the new deal was being officially wound up and the government's resources were being redirected to concentrate on increasingly gl

they believe in jesus christ. >> a lot of people say they're christians and they are not.race historical christiani christianity. and i believe that as christians we have the duty to prefer and select christians as our leader. that's what the first chief justice of the supreme court said. and, again, i think when we've got a choice as evangelicals between a rick perry and mitt romney, i believe evangelicals need to go with rick perry. >> again this is not a newe ide. this is not the first time we heard someone call mormonism as a cult. this certainly is the first time that mitt romney and his political career has come under fire for being a mormon during his last run for the presidency four years ago, he got some of these same questions, even got kind of some nasty responses from potential voters. look at this. >> hello, sir. how you are? >> i'm one one person who will not vote for a mormon. >> is that right? can i shake your hand anyway? >> no! >> the church of jesus christ of latter day saints, the mormon church, was founded by a farmer named joseph smith in the early 18

>> first of all, the church of jesus christ, latter day saints, they believe in jesus christ.ere is that people of that faith have served this country honorably for a long time without any influence from the church. udall is one of the great families of democratic parties, harry reid's a mormon, they tend to be more republican, but it's very important to note that they have a real tradition of service in very comp tant and honorable l service. i would hope that the reverend would reconsider his position, but it may be something that governor romney's going to have to address. i hope not. i think we got bigger problems than that, but it could be. >> how much anguish is this going to cause among republicans and conservatives? the fact that all of a sudden, this has come up as an issue? >> i think it's part of what has been known to be some concern that romney does not invigorate important elements. some because issues he's taken in the past. others because the view on religion. obviously shared james' view on the contributions the mormons have made and continue to make in americ

my knee to jesus christ, but i have not done it at that point. and i had some faithful friends. i heard the way of salvation from the pulpit. and i heard it, and i did not give my life to the lord at the moment. but it stuck with me. later on i was with three friends of mine and it was this time of year. it was beautiful out. we heard there was going to be a party in our lutheran church on halloween evening. if we decided we would go. we were 16 years of all and end of horsing around and decided we would go to this party. we went, my friends and myself. there was no party of the church, about 10:00 at night, but the doors were open. that was not often the case. we went into the church and when we went in, it was almost like there was a wholly hush that came over the room. -- a holy hushed that came over the room. we were drawn to the altar. at that moment, a horsing around was done. all of us have a tug and our hearts that this was the time for serious business. we came up to the altar and we bowed our knees to the altar and which started talking

>> he doesn't believe the way orthodox christians believe in jesus christ. interestingly enough when he gave a speech at texas a&m, which i encouraged him to give, gave him a copy of kennedy's speech when he asked to meet with me when he was running last time. i said governor, i would encourage you to review this and give your version of it. note kennedy didn't defend catholicism, he defended the right to be catholic and run for president. that's what he did. at the end of his speech, he said i believe in jesus christ, but i give others the right to believe differently than i do about him. giving christians permission to say this is now how we understand christianity. >> the profound question, is there any reason he could not be the president of the united states, why he should not be supported by people of all faith to be president of the united states? is there any way that the mormon church would interfere in his ability to follow the constitution and be an independent -- >> i don't think so. he said in his speech basically the same thing that kennedy did

we believed it is our responsibility to present the gospel of jesus christ. we also believe it was our responsibility to make sure they were educated. i know my mother, we did not have a lot of money, she always made sure there were books. every day, before nap time, as a little girl, i remember crawling in my mother's lap, we had the big chair and we were all sitting on her lap in the big chair, she would have a stack of books this high. every day, we would go through that whole stack of books. it was the best part of the day. even though we did not have much money, like i said, my brothers grew up to be extremely successful. and then you have me. they all grew up to be extremely successful. i looked back -- i honor my father and my mother. i look back to both of them into their example. i am so grateful for that example in our own life. they consistently read to us. they made shore -- sure that education was an important part of what we did. they wanted to make war that we read. -- sure that we read. we educate our biological children at home. we wanted to

and he is a genuine follower of jesus christ. >> what jeffress means by genuine follower of jesus christ is, of course, not a mormon. a veiled reference to mitt romney's religion. rick perry didn't have to say much about that introduction, so he didn't. >> pastor, i want to say thank you for the rousing introduction. he knocked it out of the park as we like to say. and a fellow who on any given sunday is working with 10,000 texans in his church. so i just, again, want to say thank you. >> later in an explicit attack on mitt romney, reverend jeffress hit mormonism out of the park. >> rick perry, he's a christian. he's an evangelical christian, a follower of jesus christ. mitt romney is a good moral person, but he's not a christian. mormonism is not christianity. it's considered a cult by the mainstream of christianity. >> the newest republican front-runner herman cain had this to say at the values voters summit. >> this nation has made it through the civil war, this nation has made it through the struggle we had with slavery. jim crow laws. civil rights. a reporter asked me just yesterday

and he chose jesus christ. i think it's an outreach for churches to buy theaters out, every seat in it, and hand the tickets out to people that don't go to church. because they will see one man's faith. and what he put on the line to -- and also to choose jesus christ. >> reporter: what is your favorite part of the movie? what really impressed you the most? >> i've seen the movie six times now, and every time i break down crying at a different part. every time. >> reporter: is it the kids? >> it's not so much the kids as it was my past. because i was a rough person. and i tried to hide that for so many years. and the last few years i started speaking out my real testimony. last year alone we had over 15,000 people make commitments to christ because i'm not ashamed to speak out who i was anymore. we keep expanding because our work is not just about children in sudan. it's about children around the world that are suffering and dying. and peoples coming out of the movie, and they've got the same thing on their hea

. >> reporter: the us conference of catholic bishops, the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, the episcopal presiding bishop and the union of orthodox jewish congregations joined together on one of the briefs. they said, "when the dispute is between the church and the church member who seeks to serve in ministry, there is no occasion-no justification whatsoever- for the state to become involved." >> reporter: lower courts have been wrestling over the ministerial exception for decades, but this is the first time the supreme court has taken up the issue. a ruling is expected by early next year. i'm kim lawton in washington. # >> the supreme court declined to hear another case involving the hiring rights of the christian relief organization world vision. three former employees sued the organization after being fired for not agreeing with its statement of faith. lower courts ruled that as a religious organization world vision can hire and fire people based on religion. since the supreme court refused to hear the case, those earlier decisions stand. >>> there has been an internati

my knee to jesus christ, but i have not done it at that point. and i had some faithful friends. i heard the way of salvation from the pulpit. and i heard it, and i did not give my life to the lord at the moment. but it stuck with me. later on i was with three friends of mine and it was this time of year. it was beautiful out. we heard there was going to be a party in our lutheran church on halloween evening. if we decided we would go. we were 16 years of all and end of horsing around and decided we would go to this party. we went, my friends and myself. there was no party of the church, about 10:00 at night, but the doors were open. that was not often the case. we went into the church and when we went in, it was almost like there was a wholly hush that came over the room. -- a holy hushed that came over the room. we were drawn to the altar. at that moment, a horsing around was done. all of us have a tug and our hearts that this was the time for serious business. we came up to the altar and we bowed our knees to the altar and which started talking

[laughter] you can't say jesus christ." and i said, "well, let's put that aside for a while, and i'll think about that one." then they went on to some others, like, there's a point in the first act of the play where george refers to martha's father, president of the university, and says to the guests, "she is his right ball, so to speak." they objected to "ball" as a slang term, and this really, really puzzled me. they said, "however, it will be all right if you say she is his right testicle." [laughter] i said, "but that doesn't scan. the rhythm is wrong there, so we can't do that." and on and on and on and on. they said, "well, we have to come back to jesus h. christ," and i was getting a little puzzled and annoyed by that point, so i said, as a joke, "well, how about mary h. magdalene?" [laughter] he thought and said, "yes, that would be lovely." and i knew there was not gonna be any real communication here. and so i took his 75 objections, and i took them to the theater, where the actors and the director were very, very

evangelical christian a follower of jesus christ. mitt romney's a good, moral person but not a christian. mormonism is not christianity. it has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of christianity. it's the difference between a christian and a non-christian. >> perry the campaign released a statement saying the governor does not believe mormonism is a cult. after a campaign event in iowa, perry was asked about his view of mormonism. >> governor, mormonism -- is it a cult? >> no. >> you really don't think so? >> i don't want to answer that -- >> attempting to distance himself, they did not choose him to give perry the introduction. they suggested the pastor. perry's campaign signed off on him. more on all this in a moment. >>> perry did not discuss romney's religion during his speech at the values voters summit but weighed in social issues and took a veiled shot at romney's stance on abortion. >> some candidates pro-life is an election year slogan to follow the prevailing political winds. to me, it's about the absolute prin

it is the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints. mormons fervently believe in jesus christ. personal savior. we're some of the biggest supporters of israel and modern arabs and islamic people today. we have a real breath of love for everybody. and i have to say that it is pretty hard for anybody with brains to say that the mormon church, that is our nickname, is, that the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints is not a believer of jesus christ. the minister is a nice man. i have no doubt that he believes what he is saying. i just think that bill bennett summed it all very well the other day. martha: let me ask you this. i recently have thought about the fact that the first time mitt romney ran, there was a lot of discussion about this. it was on the cover of magazines. >> right. martha: and i thought, well, have we moved beyond that as a nation and is it, you know, a positive sign that this really has not come up in the whole discussion about mitt romney. why do you think it has resurfaced now? >> well, i don't know. and i, frankly, wish it hadn't because it's not right

november 1, when i came to jesus christ, and i will say this.changed my life forever, coming to the lord. it was not that all of a sudden, we went from being below poverty to all of a sudden having money. and things started to change. we did not suddenly get out of poverty. i went from working at a bus to supervising kids at lunch. to work my way through college. i worked my way through lawgod brought me a wonderful, got the man who also gave his life when he was 16. my husband was also a farmer and his grandmother had a kg on the television and keep -- had billy kurram on television and he also -- billy graham on television, and they also gave his life to the lord. and there was a film series by france's shaver called "how -- francis schaefer called "how should we then now live" and in that film series talked about how jesus needs to be a part of every part of our life. at that time we were not even boyfriend and girlfriend. dr. schaefer said abortion was the watershed issue of our time. how people view that will determine how they view so many

he is a true conservative, and he is a john win follower of jesus christ. >> joining me with the latest on the 2012 election, dick morris is back. sir, from rome tonight. welcome back. >> good to be here. >> all right. first of all, that last comment, i am really -- i don't know why people are attacking governor romney's religion. now governor perry did not do that. but he introduced perry at the value voter summit. i think this is a big mistake politically, and i also think it's wrong moralry to be doing this. what are your thoughts? >> perry should have gotten up there and said i just want to make clear that i do not regard the latter-day saint religion as a cult, and i would not nine anybody's religious believe and i would not be associated with anybody who did demean them. if the speaker said we need a follower of jesus christ, not some jew, or we need a white candidate, not some black, do you think perry would have just gotten up and given his speech? no, he would have renounced those remarks and distanced himself from it. it's no different to be anti-mormon an anti-christian or an

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