they use in the solution i think you partly through the question that we got on facebook from mr jewett who are six who can afford to work for free so well actually lots of people do there are many people who volunteer for courses and many people who have hobbies so developing free software is a sort of hobby for many people and it's a political cause for many people but the crucial thing is there is lots of free software if somebody believes a c. . minded economic theory that says there can't be free software well that theory must be false it's like someone who has a theory saying satellites can stay up well they do look up at the moon one day and you realize satellites can stay up so that theory must be wrong now you might want to ask how people develop free software that's an interesting question but to say i don't believe it could exist when it does exist that's just a false belief if god wanted people to fly you would have given the wings who think there is no god but it's not really a meaningful question but. basically for software regionally was frequently free back in the one ni

for a jewett is pretty popular. [laughter] >> i have one question. anybody else have a question? we were talking about this earlier. who help their even comes close today to being bob strauss? >> we decided no one. a lot has changed since bob's type. there's a lot more money in politics which means people are going home on the weekend to campaign. there is in the relationship there was in congress and also the press can't protect politicians the way the protected bob strauss. he could say the most outrageous thing and it didn't affect his career so having that kind of larger-than-life personality doesn't work in this climate but also being someone who doesn't buy into the ideology and chest is practical and wants to negotiate and to compromise people are having to listen to their districts a lot more. i probably know less about this than anyone else in the room, but it would be very hard to have another bob strauss for many reasons; climate and also because of his character. kathryn >> thank you. if you could pull up your chairs we would be appreciative. the book is in the front