so you have the fantastical idea of others publicly endorsing good jewish immigration to palestine. the nazis struck a kind -- quote with a swastika on one side on one side and the jewish star on the other. they could maintain operation and they were allowed to grow. but understand with the zionist published the newspaper in the office they were overlooking every line. people don't understand exactly what the nature of the invasive nazi regime. they could have fought back and with many levels they did. but they were there realist would cold hard realist. >> host: within the context of the jewish community and the response there is a lot of misunderstanding. where they passive, reese's day? you alluded to the nature of the boycott could you share the backlash of what the jewish community was trying to do in response to the early rise from hiller? >> guest: look at two titanic forces of the boycott to cripple the reich and the transfer ever to save the jews. >> host: they seem to be parallel competing. >> guest: no. they are on a collision course. because they cannot coexist. the boyco

palestine "where they belonged" end quote. you have the fantastical idea of the others publicly endorsing jewish immigration to palestine. the nazis struggling with the jewish star on one side and a swastika on the other wall jewish organizations were shut down the zionists were allowed to maintain their operation and were allowed to grow. but you must understand with the zionist published this newspaper, people were looking over every line in the office. people don't understand the nature of the invasive nazi regime. it is easy to say they could have fought back and in many levels they did. but the zionist was the realistic. the cold hard realist. >> host: within the context of the jewish community and the response. there is a lot of misunderstanding were jews passive for resisting? you alluded a little while ago to the nature of the and tied nazi boycott. if you could share about the backlash and what could jewish community in response to the early rise to power. >> you need to look at this says to titanic forces. the boycott to cripple the reich and the transfer effort to save the jews. >> host: they seem to be paralle

an atmosphere of vacation, happiness and here i was going to speak about the young man of the jewish palestine fighting in the hills of judea and i wanted to buy and over code for each one of them and get she was able to find the words that moved so much of the audience that that might in myanmar she collected over $5 million. her whole trip took about a month and she was able to collect a total over $50 million. every night these telegrams went to prague and then he told me he found a yellow sheet of paper of the telegram under his door every morning with the change and could run to the manufacturing of orman manufacturing our manufacturing and prague because he was unable to buy planes and tanks and win gold. are you satisfied with the grandeur of this woman? [laughter] when it turned to tel aviv she was greeted on the air strip by david himself, and that they the creature, the founder of israel was that these very words that today they will tell stories of the birth of israel. they will have to say thanks to a woman that this burst took place. and for us it was touching to be with her and h

book called "the transfer agreement: the dramatic story of the pact between the third reich and jewish palestine." this book was published in 1984 so it's been 25 years ago. and at the time that it came out i remember there was a tremendous amount of media attention, and also it was a very controversial book. it was one there was a tremendous amount of discussion about it. so that's what brings us here today. let's go first to that issue. what was it about the publication of this book, the thesis that you're putting forth? what was it that garnered so much attention and so much controversy? >> the story of the "the transfer agreement" is the story of the pact between the zionists and the nazis that was launched in the first weeks of the third reich in 1933. it began in the spring of 1933 and was consummated in august of 1933. most people don't know that when hitler came to power, the jews actually fought back and they fought back hard and they fought back immediately. hitler came to power on january 30, 1933. the first concentration camp was actually opened up, a series of them between march 8 a

. >> a student asks, did the zionist think jewish palestine would be safe from the nazis or were they afraid that given hitler's designs on the middle east as well that that would also be a dangerous time? >> i think it was always understood by many that hitler thought of palestine as a great big prison camp for a great big prison camp for the jews. they would be put in palestine and then they could take over the middle east, but i think the zionist thought let's save the jews on monday and figure out what happens on friday. it has always been a jewish desperation, we don't want to be killed before shah this. >> finished with a last question from joseph myers, a retired teacher here in montreal. how did you work on the transfer, how did you work on the transformation agreement affected personally endwise this one event in washington your only event when you speak so often on your other books? >> it is inappropriate final question. it affected me personally. and that it set me off on a circumnavigation of the world of evil. and, as circumnavigating the world of evil and injustice again

and ben gurion had realized that unless the jewish community of palestine was able to buy the arms andammunitions that they would need for the war which was sure was going to break out on the 15th of may, 1948 when the state of israel would come to life, unless they were able to do that, they would be submerged by five arab armies that would immediately attacked jerusalem and the rest of palestine and the rest of the state of israel. so, ben gurion in that meeting said i have to go to the united states. we have to get some money to buy those arms and munitions. we need at least $30 million immediately. one of his aides was to become one of my greatest friends. he really was a founder of the state of israel. he was not really very well-known. he was going to go to buy those arms and ammunitions but where would the money come from? ben gurion said i have to go to the united states and ask the jewish of america to give us the money. then a little voice came up bin said, david, there are so many things you can do here and there are so few things i can do. maybe i can go to the united state