jfk jr.? really? >> i don't know that -- in terms of the jfk jr.g alive, again, i think different people interpret the bread crumbs very differently. >> reporter: some q-anon believers seized on this post from q in april. potus and jfk jr., relationship. some q followers ran with it speculating that jfk jr. faked his death in that plane crash off martha's vineyard nearly 20 years ago and he's now secretly helping donald trump behind the scenes. how did we go from q-anon to jfk? >> reporter: bloggers like this guy from the mile high podcast crowd sourcing the tea leaves, trying to make the case jfk jr. is q. do you buy that? >> no, i don't know. the thing is, i don't have to know. q doesn't have to be right about everything. i'm not quite about everything. i'm betting you're not right about everything. >> absolutely not. >> i know damn well the media's not right about everything. >> reporter: the movement has already had an impact in the real world. there was this bizarre standoff in june. an armed man in an armored vehicle, believed to be a q-anon

willie, jfk jr.ho apparently is not really dead according to these crazy conspiracy theorists and how off the rail this group is, but what is disturbing is that somebody in the president's orbit plays to this crowd. and actually does encourage the president to stoke it suddenly and that is what disturbing a lot of people. >> watch those rallies. those signs are all over the place. chuck, a lot to chew on this morning on "meet the press." thanks for sticking with us for a few minutes. the topic this morning on "meet the press" is state of the white house. is president trump liberated or besieged. roy blunt and amy klobuchar are among his guest this morning on "meet the press." >>> a violent rally. here is more from our correspondent. >> reporter: it was a confrontation in portland that police, protesters. >> go home! >> reporter: and counter protesters had been preparing for. members of the right wing group patriot prayer held a peace rally led by joey gibson met with members identifying themselves as

and they posited that r was jfk jr.rly 2 decades ago. >> does this have anything to do with the pizza gate foekds? there are republicans that hillary clinton and others are running a pedophile ring in a pizza parlor in the basement? >> absolutely. a key part of qanon is not just that trump is fighting against the deep state or the clintons. he's fighting against global pedestrian fire networks all over the world. they have no evidence for this, it's crazy stuff. >> i understand that some people believe that the president has given them secret signs that the way he holds his hand or puts some fingers together he's forming the letter q during speeches? >> yes, they're obsessed with getting some sort of validation from trump that q is real. they'll look at videos and saying, maybe he's moving his hand in a way that he's mentioning q. they've been asking a lot of white house reporters to ask trump about q. they seem to feel that this if trump was asked about it, they're convinced he would say, oh, yeah, it's all real. >> do