jha: it depends a local conditions. i have been vocal that places like new york and massachusetts can and should send kids back to school. the level of virus in the community is low enough that is safe to do as long as you are also working on ventilation and making people -- making sure people are wearing masks. places like georgia and mississippi, where virus levels remain high, there is no safe way to bring kids back to school yet. they have to work on bringing virus levels down and then they can bring kids to school. bringing kids to school is important for kids, parents, everybody. you have to do it safely. when you do not do it safely, you will end up having to shut the school down again. in "there is a story new york times." deal oftting a great interest about the number of windows being broken on subway trains. ventilationncrease on a subway train? is that an issue, in terms of people wanting to ride that train? do you think enough is being done to make people able to get back on public transport? dr. jha: that i

jha has.ut they have only 21 days of decreasing cases, dramatic drops in hospitalizations because they had smart policies. >> well, hold on. are you concerned in states like arizona because arizona is one of the several states across the country that has a decrease in cases but also a decrease in testing. so are you concerned that could be a warning sign that people just aren't going to get tested because they don't want to have to wait so long to get their results back or wait in line? >> so there are three questions and assumptions there and all of them are wrong. >> i'm asking you. i'm not assuming anything. i'm looking at the numbers. >> you're telling me, you're not asking me. >> i'm looking at the numbers and i'm asking you a question based on the numbers. >> so let me answer based on the numbers. we believe the cases are down and that's real because hospitalizations are down, covid-like illnesses are down. this is a real decrease in the infections. number two in terms of turnaround time

jha, is working the other way. there's school districts, school heads, county officials who are playing politics, too, who say well trump wants to us get back into school. we're not going. you know, that's to your point what is so unfortunate how politicized this has become, on both ends of what's getting sacrificed are good practices to get kids back into schools safely, and for teachers to be there safely, and it's difficult for teachers as well, because if they have kids who are no longer going to be in school, are going to be working remotely, how are they supposed to come to work and school? it shouldn't be done at the last minute kind of push it through and now we get set back. every time we have a case like this in georgia, we get set back, because other teachers, other schools, so many of them follow each other, say oh no, we can't do this now. >> david xwrgregory, dr. jha, tk you for being with us. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >>> breaking overnight, a heavy police presence on michigan avenue in dow

jha, i thought that dr. fauci threaded the needle in terms of the false narrative that we often hear from president trump of, you either have shut down and ruin the economy or as dr. fauci said let it rip. that's not what you experts have been telling us. neither of those for, you know, all of these weeks and months. there's a middle ground that somehow president trump doesn't often talk about in terms of what else to do. >> yeah. so that's exactly right and, you know, the problem is that if you look at things in extremes, then both for policy solutions have really substantial costs and i actually really like the analogy that governor newsom of california has used which is the idea of a dimmer switch. instead of turning everything on completely bright going back to normal or turning everything off, we should have a dimmer switch and when things start rising, you start clamping down. and the major things that we have -- major tools that we have, of course as dr. gupta said everybody needs to be wearing a mask

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jha, we appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> so a former pool attendant at the center of a sex scandal involving evangelical leader jerry falwell, jr., and his wife, former pool attendant joins us with his version of events, next. it's pretty inspiring the way families redefined the word 'school' this year. it's why, at xfinity, we're committed to helping kids keep learning through the summer. and help college students studying at home stay connected through our university program. we're providing affordable internet access to low income families through our internet essentials program. and this summer, xfinity is creating a virtual summer camp for kids at home- all on xfinity x1. we're committed to helping all families stay connected. learn more at xfinity.com/education. >>> the young man at the center of a scandal involving evangelical leader jerry falwell, jr., and his wife is speaking out about what he calls a pattern of predatory behavior from the falwells. giancarlo granda was a pool

ashish jha. we always appreciate your time, dr. jha.ly big deal so let's just break this down. we know that asymptomatic people are one of the driving forces behind the spread of the virus. is there any scientific medical explanation for why the cdc would make this reversal and say people who don't have symptoms now no longer need to get tested? >> yeah, good morning. thank you for having me on. there is no scientific basis for this change in policy. as the report said, about half of all spread happens from people who don't have symptoms and the idea that we're going to stop recommending those people get tested, it will make the outbreak much, much worse so i think we're all baffled by this decision. >> it is a head scratcher. we talk to you all the time. your lesson always is to us, listen to the science. what do americans do if the cdc, the science, now seems to be bowing to political pressure? >> yeah, it's very distressing because for a very long time we have known that we could trust the cdc. we could trust the fda. the scientists

ashish jha is taking a look at it. how do they get these rapid tests. how do they get it done in 90 minutes? is the uk that much better than us? is there some science that's proprietary? couldn't we be buying up those kinds of tests right now? >> we should have been developing this ourselves. you talked about this early on, there was a strategic method to minimizing this by not testing. sad to say, i think that's the truth now, you sort of suggested that early on and i thought, maybe we're just behind. but i think it was deliberate now at this point to not test, because it would make things look bad. we should have had significant breakthroughs in antigen testing by now. it should be easy to know what your day is going to be like for the coronavirus as it is looking at your phone for the weather. >> do we have it even created? can't we get it from somewhere else? where did the uk get it? >> that's another thing, the initial test that was available that we did not use was a world health organization test. there was this idea that we will create our own t

jha now down only 38%. so people are going out. people are deciding out of necessity or just their need for company to go out. the question is are they following safe procedures when they do that? >> yeah, so, first of all, john, there are places in the country where it is getting safer to do those things. in the northeast, where they got that percent positive ity is lo it is safe to do that. you look across the country, the broader theme here is we have pandemic fatigue. people are getting tired of being locked down, tired of feeling like their lives have been disrupted and the main message from public health folks like me and dr. ranney and others has been the more we can do the things that dr. ranney talked about, the more we can make it safer for people to get out, to go to the mall occasionally. avoiding prolonged periods of time indoors is the key, but it is fine to go out as a place where there isn't a large outbreak, fine to sit at a restaurant and have a meal with a friend. that is what we want to be pushing towards, but w

ashish jha, director of harvard's global health institute. thanks for coming on, dr. jha.t now as they try to figure out whether to send their kids to schools. you look at district by district, chicago and los angeles decided school will be exclusively online. then you have new york state leaving it up to each school district to open. new york citing the low positivity rate across the state. what do you think about this district-by-district approach when it comes to opening schools? >> yeah. so thank you for having me on. i think it is unfortunate consequence of the fact that we have no national plan on the pandemic, we have no real national plan on schools. and so we've left all of the pandemic fighting to individual states, and states are leaving this all up to individual school districts. now, obviously -- >> everyone's trying to pass the buck, it seems. >> you know, that's right. and there is a large element of that. obviously you want to customize policies for local conditions. but the problem is that there is not a lot of -- like, school superintendents don't have a

. >> you see, avinash jha and ami shah own this home on gable drive and linda is their tenant.she is violating their lease agreement by renting it out on airbnb and she is also violating fremont city law by allowing more than two people to stay here at a time. linda asked them to reduce her rent back in march by $500 a month, which he agreed to and now regret. >> they are making money off our house and not paying the rent. it is crazy every which way you look. >> a neighbor informed of their house was being rented out on airbnb. >> it is not somebody who is impacted by covid but someone who is taking advantage of the situation. >> they found out that linda has another listing nearby on a via san carlos. it is a similar model, each room is rented individually and goes for about $50 a night. neighbors are unhappy that so many people have been coming and going during this uncertain time. linda is violating her lease, which is grounds for an eviction. during the pandemic, fremont has in place and eviction moratorium and so does the state of california. the courts are not hearing an

ashish jha into the conversation. dr. jha is the director of the harvard global health institute. i want to talk about social distancing and mask wearing and the rhetoric the white house, the president, and the convention used about the pandemic, using in past tense. the other day i was at a trump event in pennsylvania. outside of the event wehere a number of supporters had gathered, there was no social distancing. there were very few masks. in fact a lot of people were telling me that masks were just a way for them to control you. it's unclear who that "them" is. shannon pettypiece is reporting tonight that in new hampshire, there were boos when it was announced there would be a mask requirement, that many people flouted that and a lot of the masks were being worn around the chin. what does it do to have the white house hold these events to speak about the pandemic in past tense? what does it do for our national safety when it comes to this virus? >> so thank you so much for having me on. we are not anywhere near done with this pandemic. i think we have more days ahead of us than

jha, thank. i was at an urgent care today and they said 7 to 10 days.re you don't even have it widely prevalent. they don't want you if you don't have symptoms. >>> breaking news, president trump telling an explosion that tore through beirut an attack. dozens are dead. was it an attack or not? >>> plus she wrote a powerful obituary of her husband blaming the president and other politicians about his death. i'm going to ask her why. .do yo? try zyrtec... ...it starts working hard at hour one... and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. zyrtec muddle no more. is a friendly neighbor. they're teachers, retirees, vets, people committed to doing right by getting the count right. if you haven't responded yet, they'll be stopping by to ask some simple questions that will inform how billions in federal funds are spent on local services every year for the next decade. so when they come knocking, say hi from a safe distance and do your part to support your community. time is running out. shape your future. start here at 2020census.gov. did you k

ashish jha. thank you for being with us on a sunday. it is like a weekly status report. yes, if you look at the curve, starting to come down some, some, but still 53,000 cases on average. where is the united states right now as more parents have to make a decision about back to school as the back to work debate continues? >> good morning, john. thank you for having me on. you summarized it perfectly. we're off the peaks, things have gotten a little bit better, but it is still an enormous amount of disease burden across much of the south and west. and parts of the middle west. and more than 1,000 americans are continuing to die every day. so even if we plateau with this level we're going to hit 200,000 deaths sometime in september. and this is an enormous amount of suffering, most which of is preventable. >> i want to look at that number here and bring it up. we talk about this as the united states of america. we look at other countries around the world and whatever your politics at home, spend your time, go to johns hopkins, harvard, go to the websites, ones you trust, g

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ashish jha. dr. jha, thanks for being with us. we just heard about those extreme measures being taken in australia. the question is do you think we're looking at a similar lockdown here eventually? is this a predictor of what is to come? >> good morning and thank you for having me on. it's worth remembering that what is happening in australia is 700 cases. we're at 50,000 cases a day in the united states so we're at a wholly different level, and australia is taking this, you know, extremely seriously. i don't think that we will need to do anything quite that serious. excuse me. i certainly hope not, but i do think we should understand that when the weather gets colder, people start spending more time indoors. we will see a number of cases starting to rise. so i think australia is indeed kind of a warning of what might be ahead of us in fall and winter. >> right. they're the opposite in the seasons for us and interestingly australia is reporting a reduction in flu cases and that flies in the face from what we've heard from medical

ashis ashish jha, director of the harvard global health institute. look. i'm not going to burden you with the politics. here's the problem is that he is spending time distracting from the reality instead of addressing it. i don't even get the political play. i know this isn't your deal, but he's got time to put his arms around this and get us where the uk is right now with testing, which creates a solution for the angry gym owners who were on the show. a solution for the angry parents, like me, who don't want to send my kids back this way. i hate this hybrid model that's like the worst of both in my opinion. what is the reality of -- he says today, we played this game yesterday. i want to play it again. yeah, we want to get to where the uk is. how big a deal is it? >> how big a deal is what the uk is doing? >> how big a deal for us to get where they are. >> here's the story, chris. and again, thank you for having me back on. >> always. >> we are in trouble, not just because we haven't built the testing infrastructure we need, but we also don't have a serio

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exact same as rita nearly 15 years ago that storm so powerful it pushed water nearly 50 miles inland >> jha janessa, good morning >> the track is really starting to come into agreement those folks in port arthur, they're doing the exact right thing. we're seeing the forecast shift out of houston and the galveston area and it is headed toward chasm ron parrish. overnight though, hurricane laura has intensified. now a cat 2 be sustained winds after 1205-mile-per-hour and that will increase throughout the afternoon. right now's about 300 miles off the coast of louisiana i think when you see this forecast from the national hurricane center and our 5:00 avm update that's going to change you'll see the impacts and a potential landfall tonight but the impacts are going to be widespread even though that he we are another going to see a wide hit, tropical storm winds, the storm zij, i i'll talk about that coming up. >>> the republican national coop vengs is mount the case for a second term. speechers kouted president trump's economic accomplishments and a softer tone from first lady melania trump >>

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jha, thank you for being with us. it is not a radical notion.s is something used for decades and decades to treat various things. what it basically is you take the blood from someone who has been sick, converted it into plasma and infect it into somebody else. it's limited in that you can only get so much because you need the sick people. it has been effective for some things in the past and some of the research shows that it might have a value. now, i think the president is overselling what value the research even the positive research has shown so far, but what there isn't yet is what dr. anthony fauci considers to be the gold standard of trials, which is a randomized clinical trial which includes placebos, people not getting it and comparing it to people who are getting it. what's going on here? was there political pressure? what do you see? >> good morning and thanks for having me on. so i don't know if there was political pressure. it is all a little bit odd, because convalescent plasma is something i'm optimistic about but optimistic is no

ashish j jha, director for the harvard global health institute. always good to see you.tart by talking about the convention last night. i'm not going to ask you about politics and the setting, but the fact of having 1,500 or more people, no social distancing, very few masks, and some of them were there for as long as three hours before the actual event because they had to go through clearance. it was just a giant crowd. the likes of which we haven't seen really anywhere, anywhere, not even at mt. rushmore or some of the other big rallies, tulsa. what do you make of it? >> yeah, so andrea, thank you for having me on. i saw the photos of that last night and i was pretty concerned. and i was concerned largely because of several factors you brought up. folks who are not only doing social distancing but almost nobody was wearing a mask. and people were stationary for long periods of time. this is always risky. now, people sometimes like to compare this to protests. mostly with protests we've seen people wearing masks, people moving around. those things lower the risk. and of

ashish jha is the director of the harvard global health institute and he joins me now. thanks for being with us, dr. jha. let's talk about this decision that governor cuomo just announced to open all districts. they've met the guidelines in terms of the infection rate, transmission rate. is it safe? >> andrea, thank you for having me on, and that is the big question, right? we all want our kids back in but the question is can we do it in way that's safe. and there are two parts to that. part one is having community transmission at a very low level. and i do think much of new york, most of morninnew york, maybe a new york, meets that. but the second part is making sure buildings are ready, that there's ventilation, that you can have classes outdoors if you don't have all that, so really spacing kids out. that's going to be a district by district, school by school decision. i guess what i would implore school officials to do is to emphasize grades k-5. i think we can go back to in-person learning in new york if we get it right. >> we have a big story breaking, mayor mike

ashish jha, a physician and director of the harvard global health institute.ou so much for being hrer this evening. >> thank you for having me on. >> my first question is, what does the decline in testing mean? and why is it that testing is the key to getting this virus under control? >> yeah, so testing isn't of course the only thing, other things like wearing masks and avoiding indoor gatherings are also very, very important. but testing is critical because it helps identify who's infected and who's not. once you identify who's infected you can help them stop the spread to other people. americans know this. when you want to visit a high-risk relative it would be helpful to have a test. if you want kids and teachers back to school it would be helpful to have testing. there's a lot that testing allows us to do and it's really a critical part of our national response. >> when you're talking about asymptomatic or presymptomatic people, can you explain to us what that means and particularly why with presymptomatic folks why testing early on and getting that is so

jha, always great to have you here. thank you so much for joining me. >>> right now, i want to bring in a man who has been on the front lines of this fight since the beginning. the mayor of los angeles, eric garcetti. mayor, thank you for joining us so early in the morning l.a. time. it's been exactly five months since the first covid death in l.a. county. yesterday, officials there said they are cautiously optimistic that you're getting a handle on things. how do you see it? >> i think that's exactly right. we've been very lucky. we avoided some of the deep deaths that we saw on the eastern seaboard, when the sun belt exploded, we didn't explode. but we've been steady as she goes. the city is hearing the message loud and clear. our cases have gone down by about 20% in the last two weeks. but this is a vicious virus. the moment we become divided, the moment we become complacent and lazy, it seizes that and rushes in. so i'm very proud of what l.a. has done on testing. i'm very proud of what we've done on face masks and

jha. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> george?federal judge whose son and huds were shot by a man seeking vengeance before he killed himself. the judge has made an extraordinary public plea released on youtube. tom llamas has the story. good morning, tom. >> reporter: george, good morning to you. this video is raw, powerful and at its core it is about a mother who has just lost her son and how to prevent this from happening to others who serve on the bench. this morning we're hearing from u.s. district judge esther salas for the first time since a man posing as a fedex delivery driver opened fire at her new jersey home, wounding her husband and killing her son daniel. >> while my husband is still in the hospital recovering from his multiple surgeries, we are living every parent's worst nightmare, making preparations to bury our only child, daniel. >> reporter: salas describing her last moments with her son who just celebrated his 20th birthday with a small celebration of friends and his parents. >> daniel said, mom, let's keep tal

ashish jha director of the harvard global health institute. dr. jha, good morning.at patient got a slightly different strain. so does that mean you can get infected with the coronavirus, get over it, survive it, and then there's a second strain that comes? or is the worry that the antibodies, your antibodies are going to wear off? >> good morning and thank you for having me on. even though it is a second strain, it's really functionally the same virus. and the way i look at this is this is not surprising. we've expected some people to get reinfected. and the good news here is it looks like it happens pretty infrequently. and the person who was reinfected in hong kong at least seemed to have a mild case. so i put all that together and i say this is pretty much in line with our expectations. certainly it's not a cause for alarm or concern. >> okay. so if you do have the antibodies and let's pretend they do wear off over a four-month period. what's that going to mean when it comes to a vaccine? >> yeah. so i think my hope is that with a vaccine, we'll be able to get ev

ashish jha, the director of the harvard global health institute. dr.. we always love having you here. let's go right back to what will said, 77 tests, 11 teams, how big of a problem are we talking about with these false positives? false negatives, i should say. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> thanks for having me on. we are seeing some false first of all, 77 is a lot and says to me there is a problem with bioreference and they have got to fix their lab issues, but the second issue that i think about as i hear this story is, are there other labs that are having this problem that are not nfl where people are maybe getting a false positive because of a lab error and don't have the same checks and balances that the nfl has to make sure that people get the right results? so i do think labs have to sort of double down on their work and make sure they're sending out accurate results. >> that's the false positive side. now, are there false negatives happening too that people need to be aware of? >> yeah, so every test has either false positives or false n

jha, doctor of pediatrics at new york medical college. appreciate your time and expertise. lot of parents -- we all agree kids should be in school, for some children it's where they get nutrition as well. given the spread of covid in the united states, what is the right time for school district to reopen the classroom? what is the point? >> sure. i think we all agree that school is the ideal place to nurture children from educational, social and emotional standpoint, but we really have to understand while we're pursuing that goal, we really have to balance that with the risk of spreading covid-19. so when people say what is the right time to open schools, a common question all pediatricians are getting, there's no specific right time. i think what you can do is create i group of factors and take them into condition consideration in deciding. you need a low positivity rate. low levels of circulating disease in your community. you need widespread testing so you know the positivity rate is accurate. you also need a school environment conducive to public health measures that we

ashish jha. he's worried about declining tests across the country. >> most of the estimates out there suggest we're missing 70, 80% of the cases every day. the truth is that while we may be identifying 40,000 cases, there's probably about 200,000 cases a day. >> reporter: dr. jha warns of outbreaks in schools and college campuses could continue without proper testing and safety protocols. at parties like this, at arizona state university, have school officials cracking down. 228 students were suspended at ohio state university for violating school health guidelines, and two fraternities at florida gulf coast university were suspended for holding parties over the weekend. now that school's president is threatening to send all students home if parties don't stop. >> it's obviously just really irresponsible. >> reporter: students like kaitlyn snook are losing patience with their peers. >> just because they're over it, they can pretend like the virus doesn't exist anymore. >> reporter: back to school

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ashish jha said that what upset him he knows better, he's smart. did he explain how he got that wrong? >> well, you know, the first thing he said to me -- he kind of said, look, i -- gosh, getting up on national tv like that, i just got it wrong. whether he sort of insinuated that he was nervous or what, but i think ashish is right. i think the audience is hearing the difference between relative risk reduction and they're hearing about this concept for first time. but dr. hahn is an oncologist. this is his bread and butter. i'm surprised he got it wrong, he didn't do it intentionally. but i was watching that conference live and i said right away, these numbers don't make sense. that's when we started to dig into it. >> dr. besser, we are seeing cases drop nationally. we are seeing hospitalizations in some of the places that had been hot spots, florida and texas, drop as well. that's good. i mean, there is concern about the midwest. dr. redfield was talking about he's concerned about a third wave in the midwest with the rise in cases there. do we kn

ashish jha, director of the harvard global health institute. thanks for being with us. american academy of pediatrics is saying 97,000 kids tested positive in the last two weeks of july and more than 330,000 american kids have tested positive so far. these numbers happened while schools were either in lockdown or in summer recess. what do those numbers tell you as we now are sending students into schools? >> yeah, so good morning and thank you for having me on. those numbers are a reminder that kids are not immune from this disease. they do get infected. they obviously don't get as sick as adults do and that's really good news, but it's a reminder to me that we have to be careful as we think about schools and not turn this into a political issue, but really think about when is it safe for them to go back to school and only when safe should we send kids back in. >> you said administrators should prioritize kindergarten through fifth grade education. is that for educational reasons or medical reasons as you referred? kids are less susceptible to getting less serious compl

jha. he is a terrific epidemiologist and scientist. it is hard to use the right language to characterize the u.s. response, as anything other than a abysmal betrayal of public health. the united states, with 4% of the world's population, has 25% of the disease. country after country is closing its borders to american citizens because we, indeed, are the ones who are carrying the greatest risk. that's not the way american is during epidemics. look at how well we behaved in ebola. it was america that brought so much money and talent, cdc's expertise, to the fight against hiv-aids. i admit that we were late and that we made some very bad, first steps. but we recovered. >> which brings us to a young woman who spoke at the democrat convention monday night. her father died of covid-19. >> my dad woke up on june 11th with a fever, a cough, and extreme exhaustion. the trump administration was downplaying the virus. that was a death sentence to my father. my dad voted for donald trump. he basically told me he felt betrayed. we're told to follow

i mean, ashish jha said yesterday, it's heartbreaking to see the cdc politicized this way. it's not science, it's not evidence, it's something else, wolf. >> not just heartbreaking, but potentially very dangerous if the american public loses confidence in the cdc and the fda for that matter, as well. sanjay, thank you very, very much. >>> coming up, professional basketball poised to resume after the boycott of the police shooting of jacob blake. and is there a connection between the way president trump handles racial justice issues like kenosha and the way he handles the threat of white supremacy and right-wing extremism. i'll speak with a former trump administration official who has strong views. verizon knows how to build unlimited right. start with america's most awarded network. i'm on my phone 24/7. then, for the first time ever, give families more entertainment with disney+, hulu, and espn+ now all included, we're a big soccer family. handmaid's tale. i love "frozen." then, give families plans to mix and match, so you only pay for what you need. you get so much more t

jha has said on our air he supports quicker testing. to get to the point where everybody can be tested every day essentially and know, even if there was less accuracy. can you explain for folks why would that be a good thing, even if some of the tests might be wrong? >> i mean, the point is, especially in communities where transmission is, say, low or like not as high in certain hot spots. you'd want to at least get more data to know if you are getting possible tests -- possible -- identifying possible positives, right? and the less data you have, the more of a cloud you're working through. on top of the fact when you are dealing with delays, some people are waiting 18, 19 days to get their test results. that essentially nullifies the process. you need these test results within 48 hours. after 72 hours, it's pointless because the more data you have in the beginning, the more actions to get people to isolate if they're symptomatic and make sure they're not unknowingly spreading the virus. >> we know what we need. the frustrating thing is

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ashish jha, the testing expert says we need to be at 4 million tests a day, a day, to reach suppression and we're clearly not going there. >> right. we need to be at 30 million tests per week and we're doing 5 to 6 million tests per week. one way to look at whether we're doing enough tests again is to look at the positivity rates. so, if you look at our numbers of tests in the united states, it's dropped in some of the southern states and southwest states where the virus is really very active. so, although the number of tests or positives in places like mississippi has gone down, the positivity rate remains about 22%. same thing for florida. the number of positive cases in florida has dropped, but that's really a function of less testing. positivity rate in florida remains about 17.5%. the u.s. as a whole, our positivity rate is about 7.6%. it's plateaued there. it had been as low as 4.5% in june. and we're stuck about 7.6%. our best states are doing really well. new york has a positivity rate of about 1%. it's just a little bit higher than that in d.c. but it's really patchy around the

ashish jha, who's now the dean of brownun ersity's school of public health, traveled with us for this series.s he sat the seeming choice-- between medical innovation and universal coverage-- is a false one. >> i reject that dichotomy of, somehow, we have to have 20, 25% of people uninsureif we're going to have a really hvehly innovati healthcare system. there are many reasons to reject that. so, take a state like massacsetts, where i live. it's also very dynamic, incredible new innovations happenin and yet, pretty muchverybody in massachusetts is covered. >> reporter: so, how do we wrestle with this idea, that we're in a place with this incredible level of invation, and technological advancement, and yet we are seeing these disparities in healthcare. what is causing that, those horrible end of the numbers? >> so, the disparities we see are driven, some by high costs, of course if healthcare spending was cheaper it would allow us to cover more people. but there's also a bunch of political choices we've made. society, not everyone has decided this, but many political leaders have, that

ashish jha of the harvard global health institute told me earlier in our conversation today that to really get control of the virus that we as a country need to be doing up to 45 million tests per day. the administration then says we've done everything that we can. that's what he said, we've done everything possible that we can. do you believe it? >> well, we clearly haven't done everything that we can. look at the positivity rate for the virus in the united states. as a whole, the united states has a positivity rate, testing positivity rate of about 7.3% which is way too high. and if you look at parts of the south, places like florida, we're at 17% or texas where it's 20%, mississippi at that level. that shows you that we're still not testing enough people. the more people you test, the more virus you find, the more people you can quarantine. and that's how you disrupt the chain of transmission. so, in order to test more, we have to be innovative. we have to bring new tests online quicker, antigen tests, point of care tests, cheap tests, paper-based tests that people can take in their hou

ashish jha said i think we have the worst response of any country. dr. hamberg called the u.s. response disappointing. she went on to say we could have been so much better prepared than we were by any single assessment we should have done better. why? why were we not prepared? even at any level, dr. reiner as sanjay says, well, that's italy, not here. that's wuhan, not here. >> so there was some tragic mistakes in how our tests were constructed. and that was coupled with an administration that had an essential conflict of interest. putting down the pandemic and shutting down for a sufficient amount of time as sanjay said ran counter to the president's re-election campaign. so from the very start, the president was itching to open. we closed down in about the third week in march and very shortly thereafter the president was talking about opening churches for easter. so from the very beginning there was an essential conflict between the people who were running the pandemic response and the scientists. but we were lousy when it came to testing. it took 50 days to test a meager 25,

ashish jha director of the harvard global health institute. being with us this morning. 5 million cases, a million more in the last 17 days, 100,000 children diagnosed in the last two weeks of july. what do these numbers tell you this morning? >> good morning, and thank you for having me on. what they tell me is that the pandemic rages in the united states, so we remain the global hot spot. while we have somewhat again flattened things in the last

this goes against what testing experts like ashish jha have been saying for months which is that we needions of tests a day. this is like flying directly the opposite of what we've been hearing from experts. >> yeah, it's flying in the complete opposite direction. it's also at odds with what much of the world that has had success with combatting this virus has been doing. their focus has been on testing. i've got to say i've had a lot of conversations with the admiral. we talk about testing quite a bit both on and off the record. you know, sadly, i think that this is just basically trying to justify what is unquestionably an abysmal failure when it comes to testing in this country, now saying we don't need that much testing and we should only be testing symptomatic people anyway. come on, i think everybody in the country knows at this point that a significant amount of spread from this particular virus comes from people who are asymptomatic. 40% of the spread probably comes from people who are asymptomatic. it's up to 50% if you include people who are pre-symptomatic. they don't have sym

ashish jha, director of the harvard global health institute. i want to start with what dr. birx said over the weekend. she said we're in a new phase of this virus. what does that mean? >> good morning. thank you for having me on. i feel like we've been in this new phase for a good month or so. we've seen cases surge across the south, and now we're seeing it in the middle of the country, and we're seeing it across the midwest. so i agree with dr. birx. it's in every part of our country. it's into the suburbs and rural areas as all of us expected it would be. i'm not sure we're entering a new phase. just deeper into the phase we've been in for a while now. >> how does it complicate things now that it's spread into rural areas? early days, we heard it's not going to be prevalent when the months get really hot. it's only going to be in urban centers. here we are, dead heat of the summer, and there it is in rural america. >> the entire pandemic has been all about denial. first it was only going to be in china. then only in europe. then only in new york. then only in cities. then

ashish jha of harvard's global health institute says droplets can be spread through talking.avel when someone sneezes both with a mask and without. >> for a place like miami-dade county, it's going to be a lot of work because they new york c it will still be some work, but not as much because they've got it largely under control. >> reporter: what's your advice to persons about making the decision -- to parents about making the decision on whether to send kids back to school? >> they should rely on the public health recommendations for their local area. they should look to see what met gas station strategies their -- mitigation strategies their school is taking. take stock of their personal situation. the decision to send your child to school or not is ay every pa. >> good luck trying to get kids torvous, rigy so. what's your parents? >> every single parent i know is asking me the same question. it boils down to whaeayou shoul. are you in a zone where it's safe to reopen the schools? all you want to k empowered to talk to their school and find out what kind of mitigation stra

ashish jha and other public health officials are urging students already on campus to stay there to preventhe spread of the virus. >> if we were able to test everybody on campus twice a week, that would make it dramatically safer to be on campus. >> reporter: across the country, colleges are struggling to contain clusters of covid outbreaks. in texas, baylor university ordered 55 students, 21 of them positive, to reside in place on two floors of a dorm. one university of alabama campus has reported more than 1,000 positive cases since classes began two weeks ago. and cases at arizona state university nearly tripled, reaching 480 cases in just three days. >> we can get colleges and universities open safely this fall. but only if we're willing to follow the public health guidance and the protocols. >> reporter: new york governor andrew cuomo is deploying a covid s.w.a.t. team to help contain the outbreak. meanwhile, the head of the fda told the "financial times" over the weekend, he is willing to consider fast-tracking a future covid vaccine making it available to the public before the end of

ashish jha, director of the global harvard health institute.e's warning unless attitudes on masks and public health rules change, no region of the country is going to be safe from new outbreaks. >> right now, across much of the rust boelt, i don't expect schools to be able to open or stay open for very long. >> reporter: in 32 states and puerto rico, the percent of positive tests is still above the recommended level for reopenings. handling it properly means wearing masks and avoiding crowds. indoors and out. but still, gatherings like this house party near beverly hills keep happening. >> it is a public health issue for everybody no matter how healthy or young you might think you are. >> reporter: molly grantham says her entire family caught the virus including her two young kids and her brand-new baby boy hobie. >> how is the baby? >> thank god okay. i've studied his breathing like a hawk. you don't really know what you're studying. >> reporter: once her family recovered, she decided to share her story online. molly is no stranger to story te