has the modern interpretation of jihad changed in any way, because for most people today jihad means just one thing doesn't it, it means fighting in the physical struggle? mizanur rehman: the scholars of islam in the past they all agreed that jihad means fighting non- muslims yes, but not just for the sake of forcing them to be muslim but to make the word of allah the highest by removing obstacles from the implementation of sharia and for the call of islam to spread across the world. rageh omaar: from your interpretation of the prophet's life, i mean is it permitable at any time in jihad to attack non-combatants? abdul muhid: if i cut straight to the point the argument of islamic terrorists is this - if you choose a government that represents you and they decide to bomb a country and kill people than you have blood on your hands it's like hiring for example a murderer if i pay a murderer to go and kill someone it's not just the murderer who is blame worthy i share that blame so if you say by non-combatants these people are a voted for government that is carrying out crimes than they

if you are thinking that, think again because islamist jihad is ideology whether jihad to store 78 israelis only a little state. israel is a bump in the road to that great city, us. we have a bulls-eye on her back if anyone sitting here believes that if god forbid israel was wiped off the map do you really think that the brotherhood or iran or whoever would say all right the zionists are gone we can pack up our bags and go home now? we will leave american leave alone. they won't. israel is the canary in coal mine. as a matter of fact it's the first line of defense for western civilization. israel's enemies are america's enemies like it or not. and if israel becomes embroiled in a regional war and is forced to defend itself against existential threats guess who also will be most likely click a css kindred spirits, one in the same. personally i kind of like that but a lot of people don't and i kind of like that because israel is a passionate democracy. the one country in the middle east that's tasked to grow a american. i think it might be a good idea to stand with those folks. so this is t

and, jihad with india. pakistan admits for the first time that he was living there. now, for the details. the pakistan army has violated the 2003 cease-fire, with a special team committing this act. it is the 10th incident of cease-fire violations in one month, sparking massive outrage in india. the opposition and the strategic community are calling off -- demanding calling off the dialogue. here is a report. >> the indian army says five soldiers were killed when pakistani troops fired at a post near a cease-fire line in the amount and region. the incident would threaten peace talks that were scheduled to resume. the indian military called the attack a gross violation of the 2003 cease-fire between india and pakistan. when the cease-fire was largely held, such sporadic violations are not uncommon. killing civilian soldiers evoke strong reactions from politicians, the army, and the families of the dead soldiers. >> the pakistani government admits the hand of its soldiers -- unless they admit, i do not think there is any reason for talks between india and pakistan and

, jihad, jihad, jihad, raise money, islam and his book "shade of the cor cor -- koran and there is one it is called islam because they don't separate politics from religion. these mosques -- if they say people in new york and around the world, we have terrorist training camps in new york and in seattle, washington in the woods. there are places they don't tell us all about. but i think if you have to protect the populous you will have to do that. there has been enough italian restaurants because of the mofia. >> that was going to be my point. cops have been bugging the mofia hangouts for years. and italian cops have to do it. there are muslim cops in new york that are actually part of this. i think they do a brave job of doing that. kennedy, you probably disagree. nypd efficients argue that mosques can be used to shield the work of terrorists by taking advantage of the restrictions on the investigation of first amendment activity. 1* that a reasonable concern? >> probable cause is a reasonable concern. the problem with that is it casts such a wide net. my fear is if you have a liberal

antisemitic and pro-jihad verses.idn't get created out of thin air. there was plenty of ammo behind it. but when it comes to the gateway, look, when you have a young -- and i've seen this so many times in my investigations, in my work, you have a young muslim in america or in europe and maybe they've never even read the quran, then they come under the sway of a charismatic brother hood imam, that's the gateway x. that's where the trek towards violence continues -- or begins, i should say. i don't know that the boston bombers were radicalized at that mosque, but i think it might be worth digging into considering the history of violence and radicalism. i'll tell you, the gateway drug, every al-qaeda member, every islamic jihadist you see today on the sunni side at least, man, the brotherhood's writings, teachings, ideology have been ingrained in their heads. and that's why i call it the gated -- gateway. >> [inaudible] >> mentioned that david gathered an army. how do you spell it? >> well, can i talk about the bible her

front is moving to the lines of the codes that villagers are being a race to the ground by radical jihad is a means to some stop and al qaeda and are. also they going to hold a hunger strike paid for six months mine style as the pentagon continues to splash on taxpayers' money on the prison amid claims the white house hasn't given up its plan to shutdown. and western again communities demanded russia based trip to override super bowl the next winter olympics in protest against the new nor against homosexuality propaganda to mind as some even going as far as comparing him to hitler. hello and welcome you know watching that we do you know now see with me here. talk of cold war punishment and a fractured relationship have made this week perhaps the one for u.s. russia ties in years but with washington and moscow have different takes on the situation where obama is talking about reassessing relations the russian side believes it is all being blown out of proportion check out half a story this week when president obama canceled the bilateral meeting with the russian president in september u.s

it is clear in the case of al qaeda in iraq which has merged last april to wage a common jihad. the ultimate objective of the organization is to inject the islamic faith. the western president, anything that has to do with the west is perceived -- to the realization of this ultimate objective. so he decided to close the western embassies, which is understandable. generally over the last year there were renewed attacks during this period. >> thank you for your tweets. saying how is amazing how terrorists in tents in the desert have the power to shut down u.s. embassies. that was allen's response there. a spring in scott bates over there in connecticut -- let's bring in scott bates. a. they are about the unpredictability of these groups and reinforcing what miriam is saying about how they act as always with the same kind of fame. >> what miriam has hit on something very important. he is trying to reassert some relevance are central control. he is trying to demonstrate he can still throw a switch and make something happen. it will be very interesting if this comes to nothing, that

it's also distorting what jihad and what other definitions like that really are.eason why is this. there is an organization called the institute on religious and civic values. they have an adviser, they were an academic adviser to this book. you might say that seems lick a fairly normal organization. >> innocuous. >> they changed their name. they used to be the council on islamic education. >> where does the aclu, where are the liberals who don't want the mention of jesus or prayer in school? >> cue the crickets. you put baby jesus in a play, the aclu is filing lawsuit. you have teachers saying grace in the florida panhandle, they're threatened with jail. they haven't issued one statement about 36 pages of islamic doctrine, bible verses from the koran in here. no bible verses but the quran is in this textbook. >> do you think this outcry that started, do you think it will end in this being removed? >> that could be. a few moments ago a school board member called me from brevard county. she's introducing this to the entire board. she has grave concerns about what s

their franchises, whether yemen, iraq, and other places, have really taken up the mantle of global jihad. >> you said in your book is part of the title is al qaeda devastated. do you stand by that? >> al qaeda core is devastated but we've moved on to al qaeda 2.0 where the franchises have really taken the jihad to the next level. >> thank you very much indeed for joining us. >> thank you. >> in turkey today, a landmark trial ended with scores of people being convicted of plotting to overthrow the government, the prime minister. soon after it came to power in 2002. among the 275 people convicted was the former army chief who received a life sentence. the trial has once again exposed tensions between turkey's secular tradition and the growth of political islam. >> outside the high criminal court, the protests began before the verdicts were even delivered. the police blocked demonstrators from making it to the court. we are the soldiers, the founder of turkey's secular states, the protesters chanted. they accused the government -- ich is rooted in islam -- of inventing conspiracy to silence

he did the afghan jihad in a ninety eight so this is the real player and now he is in charge of syria so we have to deal with what been there once which is not what the obama administration wants and it's not what israel wants to have triggered different agenda virgine in syria the fact bunda are in these rallies i was writing for you know who the obama administration to fight a war for them ok there are right now not even a national unity paratime syria let's go to steven steven jump in go ahead. i mean you know one of the many consequences of a missile attack on by vision us on on syria may be an attack by the syrians and iranians on israel i mean speaking of you know an unintended consequence of going to happen and frankly that's something that i don't feel that this administration has really figured out the other thing i might mention is that a republican who i don't necessarily ever agree with on most issues the speaker of the house john boehner has actually sent a letter to obama asking him fourteen questions about exactly what his strategy is if we we bomb syria i mean includin

to their own hands but it's a cynical or terrible ism the many of the jihad is should be aware of because they see them as easily manipulated both but as we saw with september eleventh to those along the attacks on the united states and other words. that is not the case there will be blowback because these fighters have their own goals to achieve and it does not include any type of alliance with the united states they will take direction from the united states in their current goal to overthrow syria they will take the money from the gulf kingdoms and pocket it but should they gain anything and it means sort of stability you can expect that they will strike back. right after the break egypt's deposed leader is out of prison look at what it means for the nation's healing society. to the future to guns drills and children sex is on this one show we found out why security state may soon be a girl's best friend already can you truly machine make scholz work a solid watch design classic still has room for improvements on wheel and how to dispose of tires or improve roads in one fell swoop clea

forces could intervene to protect fellow kurds in neighboring syria who are facing a daily on slot from jihad is to militants the al qaida linked factions which initially flooded into syria to fight against the government there are now seeking to set up an islamic state in the country's northeast reports on the plight of the kurds. we've been speaking to eyewitnesses relatives and also kurdish journalists and from the sequence of events that we've been able to piece together that commie nineteenth of july you had an assault by islamist extremists at that stage they placed a bomb in a local kurdish school they also rounded up and abducted a number of civilians the very next day a number of kurdish houses in various kurdish enclave were blown up it was also an entire kurdish village that was destroyed and some five hundred people were kidnapped that violence continued into early august when you had the report of killing at least some seventy kurds and the abduction of another three hundred and fifty now this week we saw a massacre in which some four hundred and fifty could were killed from the

in a kurdish area in the heart which i came under attack of by al qaeda linked fighters a week ago jihad as captured two hundred civilians from two kurdish villages in aleppo syria's the kurds are raising the alarm over ethnic cleansing by al qaeda linked groups it comes amid reports that the militants are about to announce an independent islamic state in northern syria now let's get more now from our correspondent in the region and really. some very disturbing reports emerging can you tell us more. yes they will we've been hearing these reports for quite some time now but the report about the almost five hundred people who have been who seem to have been killed in cold blood those reports cannot be definitely firmed at this point there is only one source as you have pointed out that was a. t.v. there seems to be no other confirmation of such an event having taken place that however does not rule out the fact that kurds in northeastern syria at this point are under a hit from the extremist organizations such as the loser from two seem to be determined to. get back out for reasons which w

which is only the jihad the know saw and several jihadist to from and guide up said jihad the organizations from al qaida who are really supported military by the accidental countries under several names. so they are supported by the united states supported by france and england and especially directly furnished. in weapons by saudi arabia so actually they are they are they are gruesome they are losing their influence they are defeated and just this this time and this time the usage of these chemical weapons is coming to help them just to stop everything and to make more investigations just to let them recover and play them again more or. more polices and and just to relax from their defeat so this is a very tactical. tactic and the problem in the end this war which is their lives are against syria. then two countries because they want to protect israel because. one of the. resistor. in the. right beside. beside iran. is the home. made very strong allegations there dani a political activist opposing international intervention in syria thank you very much indeed for your time. the national s

battlefront is moving to their lungs or because their villagers are being raised to the ground by radical jihad it's all raving to such an op and the kind and the reds that. also this hour the gun tunnel they hunger strike hits a six month milestone as the pentagon continues to splash on tax payers money on the prison i mean the planes the white house hasn't given up its blank a shot of down. western gay community to demand russia because tripped over the right to hold the next winter olympics in protest against the new law against homosexuality propaganda to my nose and some even got a yes on is comparing pretend to hitler. but it is news on the week's top stories you're watching the weekly see with me our thanks for joining us talk of cold war punishment and the frank should relationship have made this week perhaps the widest for u.s. russia times in years but both washington and moscow have shop lead defying different takes on different takes on the situation where obama is talking about reassessing relations the russia side believes it is all being blown out of proportion she's been there c

there was also a suggestion to open a fast food chain called jihad jones and among other ideas was to sell osama bin laden's porn collection on e bay and all this trolling cause the account to be suspended but beyond humor colin campbell who wrote exporting made america democracy believe the us is paying the price was allowing al qaeda to exist in the first place. is merely an instrument that the united states. developed. as. we fund foreign mercenaries. are a security agency believe. they could manipulate these your heart as. it's a sort of journalism any other jihad and should be aware of because they see them as easily manipulable. as. general laws on new objects in the united states and although. that is not the case. isn't the supporters of the ass of mohamed morsi gathered for a fresh run as across egypt after friday prayers army and police have been deployed in cairo in case of violence breaks out the protests come a day after the country's acts president hosni mubarak was freed from prison and placed under house arrest in a military hospital but barca still g. to stand trial f

can manipulate these your heart goes out to their own hands but it's a sort of journalism any other jihad and should be aware of because they see them as easily manipulable but as we saw with also general lot of. the attacks on the united states and other attacks that is not the case. islam is support has of the ousted mohamed morsi are gathering for fresh rallies across egypt after friday prayers army and police forces are on standby in cairo in case violence breaks out a proud has come a day after the country's ex-president hosni mubarak was freed from prison and placed under house arrest in a military hospital but baraka still jihadist on trial for allegedly ordering the killings of protesters during the twenty seven revolution belcher reports now from cairo. this was the chant the united to his square and the nation barak get out during two thousand and eleven january revolution millions called for thirty years if it takes a ship to come to an end a year later with hosni mubarak on trial the nation was still hopeful for justice crowds called for the aged autocrat to be sentenced to de

say hundred cadging civilians hostage would be counted separately calling for a bustling against the jihadit's this is no longer just a civil war is it. no this is we're turning it into a gangster society. ten percent of the population of kurds the sunnis are the majority the share is a minority but if you look back before all this started you know as a secular society people could go about their business and worship according to their own in their own views you know the the society that we've now destabilized by middle east standards not by western standards by middle east enders wasn't so bad so where are we now it's a complete shambles and i don't know how the devil we got to get out of this problem now because it's reverting not to a secular state to a theocracy which which is obviously what was going to happen which is what a lot of people in the area wanted a theocracy and a theocracy which was supported by the american government we now have another another failed state thank you america all right go free bloom and if he and you came dependence upon the same end that mr bloom thank

as in the nineteen eighties he did the afghan jihad in a ninety eight so this is the real player and now he is in charge of syria so we have to deal with what burned our once which is not what the obama administration wants and it's not what israel wants to have triggered different agenda virgine in syria the fact bunda are in these rallies i was writing for you know who the obama administration to fight a war for them ok there are a lot. of paratime syria let's go to steven steven jump in go ahead. i mean you know one of the many consequences of a missile attack on by the u.s. on on syria may be an attack by the syrians and iranians on israel i mean speaking of you know an unintended consequence of going to happen and frankly that's something that i don't feel that this administration has really figured out the other thing i might mention is that a republican who i don't necessarily ever agree with on most issues the speaker of the house john boehner has actually sent a letter to obama asking him fourteen questions about exactly what his strategy is if we we bomb syria i mean includ

we rebuke anybody who blows up civilians in the name of jihad.ow they're crying victim, the audacity is beyond words. >> will you admit, sir, that -- >> sean, let me answer bridgett. >> sure. >> listen, this is exactly. this is 2013. if you look at the event, what -- exactly the day of 9/11, we muslims became villainized and victimized. it's not us and them. it's we as americans. i myself, i served this country and past 12 years every single place feel like i am on -- who blew up that world trade center. >> who did this? radical muslims did this, sir. >> exactly. >> hasn't america bent over backwards to distinguish between islam and radical islamists? if anything, i think this country has bent over backwards and then some to make that distinction. >> okay. i understand. do you understand there are 1.6 billion muslim, 16,000 radic radical -- no no. that give you 0.00 -- >> do you agree that hezbollah is a terrorist group and hamas is a terrorist group? i'm asking. >> what to do with hezbollah and hamas -- >> answer the question. do you think they'

he wasn't saying he wasn't into jihad. question here is, you have to weigh the probative value for the prosecution to show motive which is an important part of the prosecution versus prejudicial effect if they have too much evidence of jihad would it inflame the motions of the jury and not be relevant to the actual motive. it will be a balancing decision by the judge and some of it would come in. heather: seems relevant, though. what do you think? >> i think dan made a great point. probative value may outweigh the press r prejudicial value. i think the judge will weigh a balance. heather: that is really fine line -- >> because of an appeal they want to make sure there are no appealable issues when they come back. heather: that is a really fine line. as you mentioned an appeal would obviously be a big concern. seems he wants the death penalty and wants to go out as a martyr. his defense is frustrated by that because he supposedly has to mount some sort after defense here. his attorney is now asking an appeals court to step

he believes he had jihad duty to kill as many soldiers as he could. he added hassan did not want to deploy. >> for the 13 counts of premedicated murder and 32 counts of attempted pre-meditated murder they must be unanimous on one of the 13 counts of pre-meditated murder. >> elizabeth bran live in washington thank you. >>> former egyptian president mub mubarak will now be under house arrest at a military hospital outside of cairo. the 85-year-old was forced out of power during the 2011 up rising. >> brand new developments in the crisis in syria. they have sent a top pofficial. they have the sites of three other attacks. the syrian government is denying any involvement. many are suspicious including the obama administration. they killed more than a thousand people including children. >> wildfire outside of yosemite national park is now being described. ju jerry brown now calling a state of emergency. 268 homes in a nearby neighborhood have been evacuated and hundreds of tourists have been ordered to leave the area. that fire is one percent contained and

syria's battlefront is moving north radical jihad of kurdish villages and. out of massive. emirate there. also the guantanamo bay hunger strike. as the pentagon continues to spend taxpayers' money on the prison. planes. and gay rights activists in the west call for a boycott of next year's winter olympics in sochi the new russian. propaganda to minors some even going as far as. broadcasting live from our studios in moscow recapping the week's top stories in our weekly program this is our t.v. guide to have you with us u.s. russia have suffered a major freeze this week at least that's what washington is claiming barack obama has accused moscow of a cold war mentality and even called for a pause in the relations russia on its part is demanding america like adults and believes there are no signs of awe still of. his commentary. this week when president obama canceled the bilateral meeting with the russian president in september u.s. russia relations have hit a new low on friday the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and the russian defense minister arrived in washington as

to their own ends but it's a cynical paternalism that many of the jihad is should be aware of because they see them as easily manipulable but as we saw with the also general ought to those along the attacks on the united states and other attacks that is not the case . knife here most after this short break whole towns engulf lots of already broken two century old records but levels are still expected to rise we bring you all the latest from the stricken far east russia it's all coming up for you and all the stories in just a few minutes from now. there's a media leader so we need to be. by the sea pushes to the other your party physical. issues that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from. politicking. our team. choose your language. because we know if the materials when i say sell some of the . treatments that the consensus can't. change the opinions that invigorating to. choose the stories that imply life choose me access to your office. continues here in r.t. islam is supporters of the else did mohamed morsi have gathered for more fresh rallies across egypt a

is moving to the lands of big crowds their villages they're being raised to the ground by radical jihad it's aiming to setup an al qaeda emirate but. also this hour they go on time will they hunger strike hits a six month milestone as the pentagon continues to splash on taxpayers' money on the prison i mean it claims the white house hasn't given up its plan to shouted down. and western gay communities demanded russia be stripped of the right to hold the next winter olympics in protest against the new nor against homosexuality propaganda to mind is some even going as far as comparing periods him to hitler. hello and welcome you're watching the weekly here on aussie with me thanks for joining us. talk of cold war punishment and a fractious relationship have made this week perhaps the one asked for u.s. russia times and years but both washington and moscow have different takes on the situation where obama is talking about reassessing relations the russia side believes it is all being blown out of proportion. as a story for this week when president obama canceled the bilateral meeting with

to their own ends but it's a cynical paternalism that many of the jihad is should be aware of because they see them as easily manipulable but as we saw with september eleventh to those along the attacks on the united states and other attacks that is not the case . after the break coal tells in gulf floods already broken two century old records but levels of still expected to rise we'll bring you all the latest from the flood stricken far east russia coming your way in just a few minutes plus other stories. we speak your language. school music programs and documentaries in spanish what matters to you breaking news a little turn to angles the stories. you hear. that try to alter the spanish find out more visit. he's continues here in r t islamist supporters of the ousted mohamed morsi have gathered for fresh rallies across egypt after friday prayers hundreds took to the streets in cairo for what the muslim brotherhood dubbed a friday of martyrs and army and police have been deployed these demonstrations come a day after the country's next president hosni mubarak was freed from prison an

saudis with with or with what their full measures that they are deploying the syria including the jihad this the money the media warfare on syria that the saudis will probably be able to achieve their goals so now they have to resort to military force to save their position in the middle east they know that if syria. succeeds in surviving. having this war against it from all fronts syria will only be a nucleus to a snowball that will stop probably growing towards other areas in the world it will start redrawing the map of the new world order the americans now are probably very concerned about such sonora and they want to stop it by force by hysteria by any means that are available to them though michael would like to expand upon that because it's a very interesting point the americans are just losing their grip on the region and they have to show who's boss excellent analysis by dr abdullah i mean we think we can cleanly go in remove the bad guy and somehow the country is going to be better off but we see iraq's current violence as illustrative of how impossible that is and how dilatory

. >> jihad against america is binding upon myself, just as it is binding on every other able muslim. >> logan: he had become the operational leader of al qaeda in yemen and was in the midst of planning more attacks. morten storm was one of the few people awlaki trusted. what he didn't know was that storm had become a double agent. ♪ ♪ >> pelley: this looks like an arena concert, but it's a private party for the super- rich. the robin hood foundation's annual fund-raiser seats 4,000. >> brothers and sisters of robin hood... >> pelley: billionaires, stars and athletes are here to lay credit cards at the feet of paul tudor jones. >> the risk is not doing it. >> pelley: so, what is this modern-day robin hood doing with all this money? that's our story tonight. >> simon: this is called lung packing, and william truebridge is doing it to attempt something known as a free dive, going down more than 400 feet, longer than a football field, on a single breath. he carries no weights, but he'll go down quickly. at 70 feet, he'll lose buoyancy and will be pulled by gravity alone. medical scholars

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he had some fiery rhetoric going to far as to call the sunni population to rise and go to jihad. a lot of blaming going on. a lot of finger pointing. a lot of people blaming the militant group hezbollah. they have been sending their fighters into neighboring syria. in one wants to see the situation escalate further. >> now to the israeli strike. it was a palestinian militant base. there were no casualties. it was in response to a rocket attack on northern israel yesterday. four rockets were fired from southern lebanon. two of them landing in pop yulad areas. we're told no one was hurt. >>> another conflict in the middle east. this one a potential game changer. we're talking about reports that chemical weapons were used to kill perhaps as many as 1300 people in syria. president obama being pushed to act after these horrific images of alleged victims were posted o online. >> many of them were children. they're bodies werelined up forcing the world to face the possibility that a nerve gas was used. government forces launched a chemical attack. the government denies it. president oba

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he was also undergoing physical training to join the jihad. he actually conducted a raid on a cemetery near his home. this happened fourth of july last year, according to the indictment. he went in and conducted vandalism to religious statues there. he videotaped this and was allegedly planning to use it to recruit others to go with him to the middle east. erin? >> i'm curious. now that we have this conversation about what the government is watching and what the government should be allowed to watch. when you look at the tsarnaev brothers if the government had seen him on the jihad websites perhaps they could have stopped them. do you have any idea from the information you have at this point how this teenager who looks all american in the picture we are putting on the screen converted? decided to become a terrorist and try to join al qaeda? >> a jacksonville newspaper quotes his mother saying he simply converted to islam. there are quotes from a spokesman for a mosque there in the jacksonville area. saying that there were red flags thrown up l

>> this guy lynn that's in jail, the jihad, the american jihad guy who thankfully -- johnny taliban. i don't know that he is out in california about to go al-qaeda. i don't know about the six before they happen. the guys in buffalo. >> and neither does the intelligence agency. >> we got them ahead of time. >> the most recent guys, we didn't get. >> but they were here, tracked and stopped. at least give them -- >> what i don't is why is it they need his stuff, your stuff, to find those guys. explain that? >> well, they don't. they don't touch our stuff unless we go 1-800 ramsey, i would to blow myself up today. >> but you can go google, pressure cooker bomb and it sails right by them. >> i was clicking on links for al-qaeda people. 100% safe martial law. is that the country you want to live? >> why does michael hayden have to defend this program? why does peter king. why doesn't the president come out and say let me tell you about this program unless he doesn't know. >> edward snowden and glenn green wald's and let him know. >> we're going to take a short break here, but just a remind

just a short while ago that he felt that jihad duty to carry out and hurt as many soldiers as possibleried out this massacre. it will be interesting to see what he does now. he's not really helped out his case in my kind of way. we understand that prosecutors they plan to call one family member from each of the victims that was killed in the massacre to testify in the punishment phase. the headline here is he's found guilty of 13 premeditated murder charges as well as be 2 premeditated attempt murder charges. >> take us inside of courtroom. who was present at this moment and tell us was he there? was there reaction? who was inside when this news came down? >> reporter: i watched it from a satellite courtroom that's been set up for news media to watch. we have one of our cnn producers inside the courtroom. they're still kind of locked down over there. that's probably about 300 yards from where we are. we'll get that as quickly as possible. we do know there are several family members which for victims and survivors inside that courtroom. it's been difficult for many of them. during the c

jihad around the world continues to grow. spying does not keep americans space.s trying to win world war ii monitoring who will go to sushi restaurants or binging on german saucals. how we win a war is naming the enemy and taking military steps to defeat them. >> eric: jonathan, you got the german saucal comment in. i know you were working on that all morning. juan, president obama promised us that this wasn't going on. now, we find out it was going on to the tune of 56,000 occurrences per year. >> you know, it's an outrage. i am big on civil liberties. we have should be protected in the privacy. i must say that this is not so much directed at us. this is about keeping us safe. jonathan says you could do it without it. i'm not sure. i will tell you, if there was a terrorist incident boy, would we be up in arms. this is under the patriot act. >> you are saying you are forit or you're not. >> if i was fascinating, sorry, i'm for it. ultimately i don't want to get blown up. >> so as long as you say "terror" in the sentence it doesn't matter what you say after that.