. >> no one seems certain when he became a full-fledged jihadi. one thing is clear. he was a scholar of islam yet never cites religion when speaking about why he hates us. >> over here. >> his reasons are about american foreign policy. the so-called war against islam that jihadis always speak on. the fbi began to monitor our life. it became a top leader of al qaeda. >> is it at least as big of a threat as bin laden? >> probably the biggest threat on land. >> one important fact that i have not mentioned. he is dead. it was an american drone strike in 2011. here's the most frightening fact. he is still killing americans. some of the bloodiest terror happened after his death. the san bernardino killings. the boston marathon bombings and the worst mass shooting in american history, the orlando nightclub murders. he is on the internet right now, literally thousands of his videos are just a click away. >> you remember the good old days when americans were enjoying the blessings of security of peace. >> the man is dead, the message is not. yet his main explanation for why t

it's not, and they provided the greatest number of jihadis. he has an s file in france which means he's had run-ins with the law, petty crime, violent crime, i don't think he served time. he was convicted, but i'm not sure he served time. if he did, that's another potential avenue pause we've seen lot of jihadis be recruited in prison. in europe and also here in america. we've got scores of people in intensive care still. we've got americans dead, including a child. already there are people trying to generate the narrative that, oh, he wasn't a real muslim. he drank, pork, he was a bad guy. his cousin, of course, is trying to generate the kind of narrative we expect of the obama white house here. so the news is interesting, it's not conclusive with regards to connections to the jihadi conspiracy. but the point is, it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter whether he is controlled by isis or not. if he's shout iing a la action bar, he's a georgia -- akbar, he's a jihadi. >> there was a document from the "inspire" magazine, the propaganda magazine th

the so-called war against islam that jihadis always speaks of. there is one important in fact about alaki that i have not amongsted, he is dead. it was an american drone strike in 2011. but here's the most frightening fact. he is still killing americans. some of the bloodiest terror he inspired was after his death. the san bernardino killings, the boston marathon bombings and the worst shooting in american history, the orlando nightclub murders. al awlakik is dead, the message is not. and yet his main explanation for why they hate us doesn't ring true to me. the united states has for better or worse waged war in many lands, why are there no vietnamese or cambodian terrorists? and why do they kill mostly other muslims? the explanation for the violence in the world of islam must liar somewhere else, somewhere deeper. >> when we come back. on brands like to 25% hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. book direct at hilton.com now that's satisfaction. ♪ cause sealy's support yis perfect for you. ♪ only the

in the last two month outside of iraq and syria, outside the war zone there have been jihadi attacksund the world every 84 hours, not 84 days, every 84 hours. if you look at the recent events of the last two years, isis declared the caliphate the new empire of islam, we have killed or arrested 107 people linked to isis, not to al qaeda and isis, just to isis. gunmac from a pure political perspective she is trying to get elected. i think it is political suicide not to acknowledge the threat that is there. she is trying to be nice to president obama. she wants a continuation of the democratic administration, but doesn't she need to break with him and her party if she wants to get elected? anywhere you go in this country no matter what party you are in you see what happens in the streets of europe and the united states, you say i want to be safe and i want my children to be safe. >> in november when people go to the voting booth they will be voting on national security, on the question who is going to defeat the jihadi's, is it going to be donald trump or hillary clinton? it is not abou

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jihadis want to kill as many people as possible.o there's a consensus building among law enforcement that as soon as you get there, you get your hard plate vest on, you get your long gun, and you go into the scene. you cannot save people by negotiating. you are giving the bad guys more opportunities to regroup. the age of the '60s and the '70s where it's about negotiations, let's order them some pizza, let's have a chat on the phone, that's gone, kimberly. first unit there equals first unit in, because you have to save as many lives as you possibly can. >> time is of the essence. you bring up such a good, timely point. because when you think about what just happened on u.s. soil in orlando, at a soft target, the pulse nightclub, and the amount of time that lapsed between the start of the attack and then when actually the tactical entry units and s.w.a.t. went in to take control of the vicinity and to take out the gunmen, i'm thinking of that right now, because this started at 8:45 in the evening. three hours have now since passed. w

scene there and there are knowledge gaps when it comes to the jihadi scene and it is building out anence capacity there and it's expressing operations to expand operations. it has literally declared a province in bangladesh in recent months and we see it declaring provinces in the cau e es cauca. >> this attack is still under way and authorities there have taken a somewhat unusual and understandable step of not broadcasting live images of this while it's under way because they don't want word to get into the attackers if they're inside as to what police are doing outside, but i wonder, bob, as well if part of this is to prevent them from making statements, making claims of their own from -- from inside as the attack is under way. is that also a driving force behind that step? >> well, jim, you're absolutely right. that's disingenuous. in a hostage rescue, we cut the electricity and that would cut the tv and you can jam all signals in and out thereof. the bangladeshis have been in denial for the last couple of years and i have to say, jim, is that islamic sunni violence started in pak

still un -- what are you hearing as far as any sort of jihadi ties?ot on the radar screen for french counterterrorism sources. they had no sign whatsoever before attack that he had become radicalized in any way. the local mayor here now telling cnn's max foster that they have perhaps detected a few signs of radicalization now possibly but we still don't have a complete picture of why he did what he did. but look, i mean he tried to kill as many people as possible. he was relentless in that driving for two kilometers killing men, women and very young children in the process. i think that suggests a deeply disturbed mind. to what degree was this a deeply disturbed mind because he had been radicalized by the propaganda isis has put out there. i certainly think that may well turn out to be a very, very strong factor, but they'll be looking at other things as well. he's pirs, according to what we find out today, to be a very volatile personality. he got involved in a violent altercation after a road traffic accident in january of this year. he'd thrown a w

there has been no claim of responsibility by any jihadi group.ick by, that will become a bit of a deafening silence. if it is isis, we can expect them to claim the attacks very soon. they claimed the attacks in paris last year. we saw the claim of responsibility coming from isis. we go through today and no claims of responsibility, that puts you more into the idea this was perhaps a lone-wolf operation and perhaps al qaeda or isis did not know this was coming. >> paul cruickshank in nice and cedric leighton, in washington. thank you very much. >>> donald trump and hillary clinton respond to the terror attacks in nice, but their ideas differ. that's next. >>> president obama condemning the terror attack that killed more than 84 people in nice. directing his administration to help the french investigate the attack and bring those responsible to justice. cnn's suzanne malveaux has more from the white house. >> reporter: good morning, john and alison. president obama was notified really just moments after the attack in nice by his national security t

until now, belgium has been one of the breeding grounds for jihadis. but there are also fears something similar is happening in bosnia. a muslim country, which is traditionally very liberal. but where over the last few years a more extreme and potentially more dangerous version of islam has been gaining ground. >> on the road in north eastern bosnia, in the village of gornja maoca. salafists live here, and camera teams are not welcome. this is something that this man wants to make perfectly clear. what is the problem? this is a street. >> it doesn't matt, you are not allowed to film me, if i don't allow it. >> we are not the first camera team that has come to gornja maoca, where an estimated 200 people live as devout muslims. in the center of the village we are told to turn the cameras off. they say gornja maoca is not a zoo and they are not animals. we have arranged to meet with edis bosnic. he asked for a shotlist in advance because he believes that the media only spreads lies. we declined. nevertheless, bosnic who is the spokesperson for the islamis

but it's a hate crime and jihady ordered hit. isis said do it by any means necessary. smash their head with a rock, or run them down with your vehicles. we take raqqa, syria back from them, we win iraq, too. military commanders know this. my friend are ebb really frustrated with what's not going on in this global jihad. martha: you look at the magazine "inspire." we have seen the plots get picked up in didn't areas. it was pinged up in boston. get a pressure cooker. in 2010, get a truck. >> maybe sure someone sees you killing a lot of them. we had it in san bernardino, can, florida, nato countries. martha: as promised the french president hollande speaking in france. listen. >> this person committed this terrorist attack. the elected officials that are with us, we wanted first to be organization and what we are going to do for the department and to the i to make sure they are fully safe and to make sure if there were any accomplices, they won we also wanted to express our compassion for the victims. for the families. at this very moment 80 persons, 84 have died, and th

there is also a lot of documentation about erdogan's support for jihadi groups, the jihadi highway that ran to raqqa provided weapons, money to wounded warriors coming out of syria. so turkey's hardly been a reliable n.a.t.o. ally member in the fight against violent crimism in the region. >> sreenivasan: so what does warned do in this interim per -- so what does erdogan do in this interim period as he has these forces working against him, as he says. how can he placate the interests of the west and figure out how to keep his neighborhood safe? >> he had a motto peace at home and abroad. turkey hasn't been able to realize either under president erdogan. right now there is a moment to pivot, to focus on domestic issues instead of cracking down on independent and civil society to reactivate the peace process with turkey's kurds. if they're looking for international mediators, there is a history of international involvement discreetly in this area. so resolving the kurdish issue would put turkey back on the right track, coordinating more closely with the u.s. and the multi-national coalitio

ideology, because within jihadi theology there is a very strong prohibition against committing suicidere allowed to commit suicide bombings because it's a byproduct of the attack, but in islam and jihadi theology your not allowed to commit suicide and that is a point or a way to keep it away from being an islamist connection to this attack. >> he is speaking against turks and there is a lot of turkish immigrants in germany who work there and have been there for very long periods of time. initially, the german police said they were getting contradictory information and they believed there were multiple shooters, but at this hour, there's no clear understanding of who could have carried out this attack and they now say there was just one shooter. certainly had there been multiple shooters, and then the idea that this is an actual organized terror attack seems more real. >> anderson, exactly. when the police first started announcing this and putting out information they said they were multiple attackers and three attackers in various parts of munich and it's why they brought the special f

there's a very strong prohibition in jihadi theology about taking one's own life.ings are allowed because that's seen as the byproduct of an attack but suicide not allowed. they feel they would go to hell rather than heaven if they committed suicide. that makes me think probably not a jihadi link here. also the fact you point out, he's iranian. most iranians are shia muslims. there have in germany, it has to be said, some shia iranians who have converted to sunni islam and gone off to pakistan and joined al qaeda but those have been very rare, those kind of cases. i think there was some thought earlier there might be some right wing extremism link because of the five-year anniversary of the anders attack. the fact he's a german iranian national sort of takes us away from that hypothesis. >> that attack was in norway five years ago. bob, what stands out to you? >> exactly what paul said. i don't think this is a terrorist attack. the man was deranged. the shia community in germany is politically inactive. they have been for 30 years. none of it makes any sense. the f

be an inflection point where isis has perhaps begun to work more directly with some of the banned jihadi groups who have been buried in bangladesh for some time. it's complicated. we're seeing this still unfold. but it is one of these things where you see one of the best places in dhaka just now turned upside down. >> yeah, that is to say the least. steve clemens thank you. stay with us. >>> i want to turn to the foed phone. edward reese is with us, senior adviser to peace dividend trust. he is in dhaka right now. he was formerly with the united nations with the department of peacekeeping operations at the u.n. edward, i know you are about a kilometer, maybe about .6 mills miles away from the scene of all of this. tell me what you are hearing and what you are seeing. edward, can you hear kate? yeah, looks like we've lost edward for the moment. we will try to get him back on the line. he is just about a kilometer away from everything that's happening. here in studio -- as this develops -- right now, we are looking at tape on purpose because right now local media is not showing live images

he is well known to global intelligence agencies who go after jihadi groups but no one knows where hes. he does have one decidedly strong tell. he has one arm. in fact, he has a sort of menacing nickname to go with it. he's known as ahmed one-arm. this man is something of a dirty piece of work. he spent some time in prison in russia. that's where he lost his arm to gangrene. he escaped that prison in 2003, did less than a year of prison in sweden on arms smuggling charges. again, no one knows where he is now. the fact that he's russian and was directing three jihadis from the russian and central asian region points to what could be a new emerging wrinkle in this whole isis drama. now, a lot of men from this region have been known to populate the upper ranks of islamic state but they have rarely been forward deployed beyond the battlefields in the group's self-declared caliphate in iraq and syria. so this is new. if this represents an emerging trend, it could mean that isis tapping into a new reservoir of foreign recruits who could move with greater ease across international borders. a

>> well, there's no real unitary pattern to how someone becomes a jihadi.ve been looking at this for over a decade now, and there have been many different paths, but what we have seen, especially in europe, but also in america, is a trend of conversion and radicalization in the prison system. way back in the beginning, 15 years ago, richard reed, the shoe bomber, the man who made it so that we have to take our shoes off when we get on to a plane, that individual actually converted to islam in a british prison and walked deeper, deeper down the path of jihadi radicalization as a result of that. so, if these reports are confirmed, that this man has some background in non-terrorist criminal activity, then that's something that we have definitely seen before. >> so, if that's happening in the prison system, how do you prevent that? >> well, we actually have here in america and in europe as well undercover agents and also asset sources that work for the penal systems and the federal law enforcement, and that's really the best way. counterterrorism is ultimately

of the medrosis and the schools in which you have clerics that are radicalized and preach frankly jihadi. and we are going to see what affect that had on the 9/11 attacks. this is politically and internationally sensitive topic because of how close the united states has been with the saudis. and so what we are going to see what those names reveal. but this late and long- time afterwards, i am not sure the impact will be operational with anything that is going on today. >> derek, the saudis, the suspicions about the madrosis and sawed ise funding is confirmed, this is part of the problem we saw exhibited in nice, france? >> i think we have to break it in two parts. the 28 pages will show fbi and cian and other intelligence agencies looked and examined all of the acertains and most of these will be individuals that had had ties to the 9/11 perpetrators. and we'll see a lot of nothing. and that is going to disappoint the conspiracy theoryist, but coming back to the previous point, we have to have concern about the wahabi support for a agenda that helps to set conditions in which extremism a

it's b.s., and the jihadis know it.ut whether the perpetrators are directed, inspired, radicalized or just plain nuts. including us -- have toeaders -- acknowledge this is going to continue until radical islamists no longer have safe havens to call home and create chaos and propaganda. number four, they have to be killed x when they're dead, don't have a press conference and show pictures or video of the president and his pals wringing their hands in the sit room. number five and last, instead of bragging about how we did it, use some reverse propaganda on these guys. they're good at it, we can be. put out the word. stuart: okay. >> so and so just died because the finger of god struck him down. that will help. stuart: ollie, this is such a new kind of war. do you think we need a new kind of military organization to fight it? i'm very much aware that the military we've got now fights the wars of the past, big set pieces. do we need something brand new from the military here? >> no. look, stuart, you come from the british

. >> can you explain to a global audience, why it is that erdogan has this -- he led a lot of jihadis into america, and his feeling was that anyone who wants to go and fight assad is good, but in more recent months he's still been very conflicted about whether to support the anti-isis forces because turkey has it's own internal problem of kurdish separatism. but you think that the government has a clear policy toward groups like isis? >> of course, fareed, first of all, but let me say one thing, i'm among the people who called the erdogan narrative, speaking of conspiracies all the time. but yesterday it turned out there is some conspiracies, the saying goes, the fact that you're paranoid does not mean somebody's not after you. erdogan's suspicions were true. with syria, turkey was only obsessed about toppling assad from the beginning, for a long time, they thought every jihadi who fights assad is a good thing and that's why it cost turkey. and the government was very blind about the threat coming from isis and al nusra groups. we are seeing a change in that lately. as belated as it i

government the wanted the images to be prevented from being used in jihadi propaganda video. these revelations come a day after another paper accused the french interior minister of lying about the presence of police officers on the night of attack. local authority said national authorities were stationed to the area, but only two municipal police officers were there at the time of the attack. the french president was swift to r respond to criticism. >> there is no place e for controversy, only place for truth and transparency. following the announcement, several newspapers said the government should go further and launch a parliamentary inquiry. donald trump has accepted to become the republican party's presidential candidate. and a record one hour 15 minutes speech, he painted a dark portrait of police officer's being killed in the streets, crossing the border. he promised to be the law and order candidate. presidents -- former presidents stayed away and protest of his nomination. your nomination. >> donald j. trump is the presidential candidate. the 70-year-old accepted th

we have a global jihadi on our hands. that is what globally hard as morphed into. 2015, 28,000 folks have been killed as a result of radical islam. the number was a little over 3000, the number of organizations of doubled, isis is one of these organizations if we have a global jihadi on our hand and facts demonstrate that, where's the global alliance. where is the united states in helping put together a global alliance much as we did after world war ii when the soviet communist ideology was such a threat to us. the world is starving for our leadership, nato itself, isis and radical islamists have attack four nato countries, the united states, belgium, turkey and france, they attacked 10 times counting this attack. why has nato not declared war on isis? >> you are right, lots to do. we will take a quick break. [plumber] i need to be where the pipes are. so i use quickbooks and run my entire business from the cloud. i keep an eye on sales and expenses from anywhere. even down here in the dark i can still see we're having a

direct or apparent links, the horrific conclusion is donning this is in essence possibly the first jihadiec who has a disportionly large impact with a major terrorist imprint in what looks like right now the actions of just one person. so we're sort of running into a new negative benchmark here in terrorism in modern europe. >> how can we call it terrorism though when we don't think he was particularly religious or his neighbor saying he was never seen at the local mosque, why jihadi and why is this terrorism. >> at the moment of course, french authorities or not just the french, but u.s. authorities and other countries have condemned this as a possible terrorist incident. they're looking at the context, when did this happen on a national holiday? where did it happen? in a public venue. what the target was. the apparent method by which this was carried out. although we're not out of the woods yet on the question whether or not there might have been mental disability or there might have been other factors here in terms of the person's motive, in general here, the working supposition is thi

they found nothing inside the vehicle to sort of tell them he was a radical jihadi. >> not that thatanyone any sort of solace but i think people are searching for the answer as to why someone with would want to do anything like this. paul cruickshank, thank you. >>> we are here in nice talking about those who were injured and also were killed in this devastating attack here on the promenade right along the mediterranean sea. i can tell you tonight an american family is searching for its son who was last seen enjoying the fireworks, the music here on bastille day on the promenade two nights ago. we have an update on the victims being treated at hospitals here in nice including five children still in intensive care. i'm brooke baldwin and you are watching cnn. >> most people take for granted putting a fresh clean set of clothes on. for someone who is sleeping rough and who really doesn't have access to washing and drying their clothes it's something that's continually overlooked. >> announcer: cnn heros, everyday people changing the world, is brought to you by geico. 15 minutes could s

that's maria hart, we will be safe if there are jobs for jihadis. that said love is our best weapon against people who slaughter americans in nightclubs in orlando. no, there's a reality that you and i live in, eric, and every american, and then there's the alice in wonderland fantasy that the administration lives in. >> mr. silva, during the month of ramadan, i guess devout muslims that kill gee ha diss, nonbelievers, get extra blessings from islam, is that right? >> that's my understanding of it. can you imagine, the islamic world has gone so badly off the rails that this is the situation we're in. can you imagine, it's the second night of passover, look out for the jews, or it's good friday, here come those terrible christians. it's an unbelievable month of terrorism that isis pulled off. i guess that would differentiate from the learned dr. gorka on one aspect of what he said. i think that obama and his administration understand the threat very, very well. they just have a different approach to it. telegraph that time and time again, i mean, if

i'm going to discuss one jihadi group, the muslim brotherhood. based on evidence entered into the largest terrorism financing and hamas trial ever successfully prosecuted in u.s. history, and my own experience conducting undercover research with hamas doing businesses care, the council on american islamic relations, the whole trial was adjudicated in dallas, texas in 2008 and identified c.a.r.e. as a member of the muslim brother odd or the u.s. muslim brotherhood's palestine committee which is hamas. designated foreign terrorist organization. the u.s. government identified hamas as an outgrowth of the muslim brotherhood. documents entered into evidence in the holy land foundation trial revealed that isna the islamic society of north america is a muslim brotherhood organization which financially supports hamas. again, a designated terrorist organization. at the time it was indicted the holy land foundation was the largest islamic charity in the united states and was convicted on 108 counts for funneling over $1 million to a foreign terrorist organ

isis, jihadi's, if this is a jihadi terrorist attack, they are taking it to high concentrations of unarmedcivilians. what better place than one of the biggest shopping malls in germany, that's a perfect target rich environment. ashley: and sebastiÁn, listen, is it my sense that it's picking up in occurrence. isis has been putting out messages to do exactly this, to take the fight to wherever you're living and for whatever reason to bill's point here, we don't know for sure what the motive was behind the shooting in munich but it certainly has the hallmarks of a terrorist attack. it seems that whatever you say about isis, they may be losing ground and territory but at the same time they seem to be getting into the heads of these people who want to do harm. >> yes, i mean, this is the magazine, the english language, isis magazine is explicit, it's now on issues 3, they have english instructions on who to attack, how to attack them, when to attack them, you can access this online, this is -- this is the manual of modern jihad and unlike like al-qaeda which is really painted itself into a corn

a few years ago, the main jihadi organization essentially split. some of the guys stayed loyal to their current leadership. others pledged allegiance to abu bakr al baghdadi. >> so isis is getting squeezed in iraq. libya we kind of forgot about, but they're getting squeezed in libya too. are they partly doing these attacks outside the country because they're getting squeezed in their home base? >> absolutely. think of what we've been watching on tv, putting on tv over the past few days. images over and over of just a handful of attackers attacking an airport where some westerners go. we're not seeing the images of them being run out of these various villages as the iraqi forces approach mosul. maybe grainy video of a convoy getting hit outside of fallujah, but that's about it. these other images, they terrify. they destabilize the tourism industry in turkey, which is exactly what isis wants to do. it's masterful if that it's right before a holiday weekend here, where security is high. they've got everyone scared, and they didn't have to go beyond t

we had his contacts and efforts to get to yemen to join a jihadi training school. we also had the fact that his own father had contacted the f.b.i. with concerns that he had become radicalized on line. mr. mohamed had repeatedly extolled the virtues of violent jihad. and we even move past to his initial meeting with the undercover. mr. mohamed stated that he in fact had been thinking about commiting an act of violent jihad since he was the age of 16. so judge king found there was more than sufficient evidence to supported the jury's verdict that mr. mohamed was not entrapped. moving on if i may to the prosecutor's closing arguments. mr. knight in his closing to the jury repeatedly emphasized that the government bore the burden of disproving entrapment. this is not a case in which we ever contested the defense's ability to raise the defense or he instruction that was given. mr. knight told the jury not that entrapment wasn't a legally viable basis for defense but simply that in analyzing entrapment they had to measure that against the nature of the crime and the lev

in this case, look, he had this attacker what i would call the early cv, of a jihadi, the petty gangstersand abusive lifestyle according to investigators in france, and boozer and party animal, and all of that is almost type logical for a future jihadi. and the founder in al qaeda was a pimp, and a thug, and used to get in street brawls and alcoholic, and what is missing in the piece is if there is any historian implementation, and that is going to be coming out, and the ex-wife is in french intelligence custody, and she is going have a sense of where this guy's head was, and where he was lean manage the last several years, but who knows. >> and bob baer, and one of the reasons that a lot of people would guess right away that there is potentially this nexus to terrorism is that he used a truck, and it has been two years since a prominent leader in isis, mohammad al aninny put out a statement that the spiteful and the filthy french should be murdered with whatever you could use. i want to ad-lib this, but he suggested a rock, a knife, your car, choke him, poison him, and this is sort of a

until now, belgium has been one of the breeding grounds for jihadis. but there are also fears something similar is happening in bosnia. a muslim country, which is traditionally very liberal. but where over the last few years a more extreme and potentially more dangerous version of islam has been gaining ground. >> on the road in north eastern bosnia, in the village of gornja maoca. salafists live here, and camera teams are not welcome. this is something that this man wants to make perfectly clear. what is the problem? this is a a street. >> it doesn't matt, you are not allowed to film me, if i don't allow it. >> we are not the first camera team that has come to gornja maoca, where an estimated 200 people live as devout muslims. in the center of the village we are told to turn the cameras off. they say gornja maoca is not a zoo and they are not animals. we have arranged to meet with edis bosnic. he asked for a shotlist in advance because he believes that the media only spreads lies. we declined. nevertheless, bosnic who is the spokesperson for the islam

you've got jobs for jihadis. don't forget. >> you would have been court martialed if you'd said that. in a cold war, wow hayou would been fired. your feet would not have touched the ground if you said absurdities like that. those absurdities are the actual narrative of the current administration upon which our policies are built. >> good to see you both. thank you. by the way, quick programming note for my friend colonel oliver note. you can catch war stories with wolver north this saturday starting at 10:00 p.m. eastern on our sister network, the fox business network. check your listings. coming up next tonight. >> we are going to defeat the barbarians of isis, and we're going to defeat them fast. >> the world has never been less violent, healthier, better educated, more tolerant. >> what the hell is he talking about? donald trump last night said we got to defeat isis and do it expeditiously. obama, the world's never been safer than today. really? we'll debate that n jordan and chelsea were searching for the per

meant hope for other parents of radicalized teenagers turned g hotties -- turned jihadis.e was soon flooded with requests. >> there was something i could wish, that all these western youngsters go home where they belong. >> but it's not only a wish. you actually go. how many times? >> total, 36 times. scott: how successful are you at getting children back? .> i got five back scott: he says there have and failures. for example, an unnamed american family in which the sun refused to return, and reasoning with the terror group is an often upside down world of backwards logic. then there's what dimitri calls government interference. >> they are advising the parents scott: while dimitri boasts himself as a modern-day mother theresa, he is a no longer working for free. the dangers, he says, are two great. you risk your life every time? >> i risk my life every time. they know when they see me why i'm there, what i'm coming to do. they know i am trying to take kids out. scott: but his calling is too loud. as he puts it, he wakes up syria. he goes to bed syria and could not stop ev

you've got jobs for jihadis. don't forget. >> you would have been court martialed if you'd said that. in a cold war, you would have been fired. your feet would not have touched the ground if you said absurdities like that. those absurdities are the actual narrative of the current administration upon which our policies are built. >> good to see you both. thank you. by the way, quick programming note for my friend colonel oliver north. you can catch "war stories" with oliver north this saturday starting at 10:00 p.m. eastern on our sister network, the fox business network. check your listings. >>> coming up next tonight. >> we are going to defeat the barbarians of isis, and we're going to defeat them fast. >> the world has never been less violent, healthier, better educated, more tolerant. >> what the hell is he talking about? donald trump last night said we got to defeat isis and do it expeditiously. obama, the world's never been safer than today. really? we'll debate that next. hey diddle diddle, the cat and the

kamar allegedly used over 60 twitter handles variation new era jihadi, i spoke with former homeland securitys philip way to identify is to start witw the mosque where they congregate. >> what mosque do thesehese individuals go to that's a more fundamental question than focusing on them as individuals. the fact is muslims do not opt p in a vacuum. separate from a community. so a lot of the influence thatat we're speaking about that drivet them from one stage of life to the next is going to come through the mosque. >> u.s. attorney's office sayses 10 people have been arrested ini virginia on terrorism charges linked to ice, seven in last year or so. kamar faces up to 20 years ines prison if he's convicted. shawn. >> thank you, sarah. >> the capital and the visitor center were placed on lockdownon for about an hour. capital police thought they spotted what looked like a gun inside a female employees it was a false alarm the item was actually power drill. >> a power drill. >> sometimes you need that at work. >> in that's so odd. i metro opt is out of a job after a close call on rails. general ma

. >> for a number of people who had spent time in these jails, they spoke about them as jihadi training camps. so through being in jail together, people created new networks. >> narrator: they were known as "jihadi universities." baghdadi learned zarqawi's methods. >> he is able to network with other committed jihadists, capable jihadists that were attached to major organizations like al-qaeda in iraq, and he begins to network with these men, many of whom he would rise with through the ranks of al-qaeda in iraq, later the islamic state. >> narrator: after his release, baghdadi moved up inside zarqawi's organization. >> he very wisely played up the idea that his tribe had direct links to the prophet mohammed. and this was very important for establishing his legitimacy as a leader. >> narrator: in audio recordings, baghdadi would use his religious authority to justify acts of terror. >> narrator: and after zarqawi's death, it was baghdadi who eventually seized control. >> abu bakr al-baghdadi was much more assertive and much cleverer and much more ruthless than anyone had thought, and so

the collusion between the jihadi highway, the provision of weapons, of money, of medical care for wounded islamic state fighters, turkish hospitals are all well known to u.s. officials. all causes for deep concern. the reality is turkey is a nato ally. it has been a treasured nato ally but no longer. turkey needs to be judged by what it does, not by what it says. we'll have a lot more information from erdogan based on his response to these events. >> final question has to do with a huge piece of real estate that most americans don't wake up thinking about either and that's incirlik which has never been more important. >> incirlik is an air force base near adonna, 60 kilometers from the syrian border. when we asked turkey to sign up with a multinational coalition and allow use of incirlik, they spent almost a year dragging their feet. they finally signed a deal allowing u.s. warplanes to attack isis from incirlik. they used the base itself to launch strikes against kurdish civilians. to erdogan, counterterrorism is about killing kurds, not about going after isis who are his comrades. >> th

it's been exploited by groups like isis and other jihadi groups and erdogan has done this on purposeturkey has not fulfilled its promise as a nato ally. >> there were people in da mus cuss were clapping. nothing they would love better than to see the president erdogan regime fail. >> he's been doing this since the uprising began. he did it with other countries where they've been financing the jihadis, providing them with arms and assistance and so there's no love lost between these two leaders. this is not to say this coup was responsed in any way baut their cheering. >> let's face it president erdogan and the united states haven't been the best buddies the past two or three years. this has been in some cases a roadblock in the fight against isis has it not. >> it has. we've seen one administration official after another head over to turkey and have tough conversations with the erdogan government whether it's been vice president biden and secretary of defense, state department officials, they've gone over there implorg erdogan to do a better job in this fight against isis and he hasn

and the international crisis group, russia's federal security service or fsb was actually sending jihadis from dagestan into syria and the logic being better for them than being over there than to risk an international incident during a global sporting event. >> it was known as a green corridor. there's also the fact that some of these guys could have well been trained up in national militaries. you were talking about how cold-blooded that footage was, and he looked like he had proper military training and not the kind of stuff that you see in the cow patches of raqqah by isis 14-year-olds coming over from tunisia. he looks like a professional soldier. i wouldn't be surprised at all if one or more of these three suicide bomber his served in some capacity in their militaries. >> phil, in terms of the investigation, what do you make of the fact that these men were apparently operating and planning this attack out of that apartment for a month, undetected except for that woman who smelled chemicals, just a few miles away from the airport? >> let's not judge too quickly here, jake. you used t

today the french interior minister said bouhlel wasn't on any jihadi list, but seemed to be radicalized very quickly. a close friend of his estranged wife said it didn't add up. >> translator: he wasn't a true muslim, the friend said. he drank. he didn't pray. >> reporter: in bouhlel's hometown in tunisia, his father described his son and always depressed, always alone, and violent. >> translator: he would become angry. he'd yell. he's break everything, his father said. >> reporter: 84 people died when the truck he was driving plowed down nice's waterfront promenade thursday. more than 200 injured. tonight, family members are still looking for their loved ones, their pictures posted at the hospital and online. for some, heartbreak learning their sons and daughters are among the dead. the father of 4-year-old killian whose smiling face was shared on social media found him today. the little boy died with his mother. his body was still at the hospital. pain for those who escaped uninjured as well. >> you close your eyes swimming in the water or trying to go to sleep, and all you can imagin

most of the republican delegates believe america has not been tough enough on the jihadi.e is that he would stop refugees from terror ridden areas in the world from coming here in the u.s.a. in germany yesterday, authorities say 17-year-old afghan refugee attacked five people on a train, man used a knife and ax shouting god is great in arabic while going on his bloody rampage that is coupled with the muslim terrorists last week who killed 8 people in nice, france driving a big truck in the crowd. the question tonight as we cover the g.o.p. convention, can donald trump stop at least. so madness if is he elected? joining us from washington, fox news strategic analyst lieutenant colonel ralph peters. so very difficult easy to say i'm going to do, i'm going to do, i'm going to do and both candidates telling the american people they are going to diminish the isis threat and other terrorism. can they really? donald trump himself doesn't have the expertise but if he were president if he picked the right subordinates, bill and empowered them he could put together a dream team and

you bring up jobs for jihadis. frankly, i don't have strong enough words to say just how as i nine, a lot of these policies are and these euphemisms are and these cliched statements of him. the french mayor has spoken out. we watched the unfolding of the refugee crisis all across europe. we're debating how many people to take into this country. donald trump has pointed out that hillary wants a 550% increase in the number of refugees we're taking in. each refugee by the way would cost the american taxpayer $20,000. but now the french mayor says, no more muslims. he orders the destruction of certain places where there's over 7,000 muslims in that particular area. we saw what happened in germany. we saw what happened in belgium. do you think europe now revisits the idea of their immigration policies? >> well, look, if common sense had any role to play, you think it would. i think the brexit is an indication of the average person saying, enough is enough. i mean, you know, just a couple of data points, sean. somebody w

>> well, there is a long standing problem in bangladesh with jihadis and what we're seeing around theworld is sometimes local jihadi movements take on the brand of isis and this seems to be what has happened here. they also have been apparently working with al-qaeda in the past and now, some of them are working with isis. for isis. >> and here in the u.s., how extensive is the radicalization do you believe and how is it most successful? >> well, actually, it's not that successful in the united states. where isis is able to make enroads, number one, where they're failing states, poor governance, where there's a long standing problem with radicalization against a government, a weak government, that's what we see in bangladesh. in the united states, we don't have large pockets of disgruntled, alienated muslim youth as is the case in some european cities. in the united states, the vast majority of muslims are very well integrated and in fact, there have been 91 cases according to george washington university program on extremism, americans who have gotten in trouble with the law and 36% o