war with jihad. i attended a persecution of christians conference globally and threat to international peace and security. in that conference they talked about the religious freedom and world report releasing figures that groups like isis and other radical islamic groups are hell bent on attacking christians and moderate muslims and other people who do not share their faith. what's happening? are we seeing this as being a global attempt to take over? >> this is undoubtedly an act of jihad, there's no doubt about, we will probably and i project hearing about it from jihad circle s on and offline. this is part of even al qaeda, and independent to intimidate the american public, to in dim date the u.s. government. i wouldn't be surprised if isis in the next hours praises them. this is part of the global ji d jihadist movement. the question is, how many are there, as we saw today, ready to take action. remember, every time we analyze a terror case, the last question we have, are there more? this is the a

means, and why we wage jihad. osama bin laden and mohammad zarqawi's differences shaped and defined the differences between al qaeda and isis today. at a time osama bin laden or al qaeda generally sees its mission, the name al qaeda, they think their mission is to set an example for all muslims to jo lin king this jihadis movement so they want to trigger, repeat the word we are a trigger we want to popularize jihad and encourage all muslims to join us in jihad. on the other hand osama bin laden was more focused on shia. he thinks the enemies of islam are she at and this is what we have, this is why the ottoman empire fell, because of that before that all the movements in islamic history were always challenged by the shia. pcs she at as the existential threat that has always existed and has to be dealt with. osama bin laden thinks the enemy is the west and al qaeda focuses on the west only to encourage people based on concerns and for example in syriac, affiliates of al qaeda focusing on winning hearts and minds, n

when you say it's anti-muslim, excuse me i'm anti-jihad. anyone that says i'm anti-muslim is implying that all muslims support jihad. that sounds islamaphobic to me. the first amendment, not the eighth not the tenth, but the first protects all speech not just ideas that we like. even core political speech ideas that we don't like. who would decide what's good and what's forbidden? the islamic state, the government? inoffensive speech needs no protection. but in a pluristic society, you have offensive speech. you have an exchange of ideas. you don't shut down a discussion because i'm offended. >> joining me now, luther college professor of religion todd green. he's also the author of "the fear of islam" which examines america and europe's views of islam. so welcome, todd. i know you spent an entire chapter in your book on this woman. the term savagery is how she often describes the actions. who is she, and how did she become such a lightning rod? >> first of all, brooke thanks for having me. pamela geller has been around for a while, but in

>> he was preaching actually jihad. >> that's him, smiling, in 2005.art of a radical islamist demonstration and flag burning outside the american embassy in london. storm is hungry for real action. for jihad. >> he's been in a very hard core environment. >> he sees his opportunity when najib khaja, now a journalist, says he wants to shoot a film about mujahadin in yemen. >> the access that he gave me in yemen was very unique. it was crazy, you know, some of the persons that he introduced me to. >> including the radical cleric anwar al awlaki. >> jihad against america is binding upon myself. >> they talk a lot about jihad, for example. and, again, storm was an extreme guy. storm was being talked down by anwar al awlaki. >> talked down from an extreme view? >> yes. awlaki was telling storm to chill out. >> yet, storm won't be calmed. he decides to join jihadists in somalia. >> and i had to join that. i had to join a call to my religious belief. >> he returns to denmark where he says he gathers military supplies preparing himself for war. >> i said good-b

if you oppose jihad you are labeled anti-muslim. if you oppose jihad you are labeled racist. islam is not even a race. it was a free speech event that we held in response to a different event in that same venue a couple months ago in the wake of the charlie hebdo jihad slaughter. a muslim group held a conference and that space against free speech. it was nota week after the charlie hebdo massacre. really american muslim groups should have stood up for free speech. not the restrictions under sharia against free speech. we held a conference. an art exhibit of depictions of mohammed for the past 1400 year s. then we held an art contest of drawings of mohammed. the winner was a former muslim. it was a very smart and clever cartoon. it was a cartoon. two men with ak-47s shot at police officers. genie: speaking to france 24 earlier. africa news. more protests in burundi. anger over the president's bid for a third term in office. something his critics say is unconstitutional. this is the second week of protests. 10 people were killed in clashes last week. here is duncan what type. d

it does not get us closer to defeating the jihad. some muslim countries are fighting isis and al qaeda for themselves. jordan and egypt. smart strategy to insult jordan and egypt by besmirching their religious icon. >> the group says it is entitled to insult mohammed they say they can do it in america because of freedom of speech. well that's true. heavy the right to do it here. but again, it's stupid. it accomplishes nothing. there has been no program stronger than the factor in speaking out against the jihad. we have severely criticized the obama administration for going too soft. i'm not soft on the jihad, they deserve to be neutralized and removed from the planet. if the president was serious about fighting the fa tanics he would mobilize the nations that are fighting isis. but it's a big fraud, the world conditions the to do nothing. but to insult a religion does not help the cause. it hurts the cause, does it not? and now for the top story, reaction joining us from washington laura ingraham and you say? >> i have to agree with

as she stated "we are living in the age of jihad," and she said she launched this to defend our freedom of speech. so why would someone carry out this kind of attack against this event? and we're still trying to determine if this event precipitated it. >> well you know kelly, yes, we are living in a time of jihad. that is an accurate statement. and yes, we do have a right to exercise our first amendment. but we also have to be very cautious these days. we really tonight dodged a bullet if i can use that terminology, no pun intended. you have law enforcement officers who acted as a barrier to keep the individuals who were exercising their first amendment right safe. and as a result of that we've got these two individuals, two unidentified individuals who are dead. what is going on right now, kelly, is that law enforcement is doing the right and proper thing and acting out of an abundance of caution by making sure that there are no booby trap s. normally this appears in part what one would define as suicide by cop, simply meaning that they initially started shooting, as you know at the se

we have to be able to discuss and when you say i'm anti-muslim, excuse me, i'm anti-jihad.says i'm anti-muslim is implying that all muslims support jihad. >> sure but -- >> that sounds islamist phobic to me. >> i'm joined by heidi of the southern poverty law center intelligence product. thanks for being with us. can you give me an idea of what it was about this group and that leader in particular that made you feel she needed to make the list of those most extremist in this country? >> yeah. i mean pamela geller is one of the most egregious muslim barbers in the united states. she's been doing this stuff for years. we've had her on our list since at least 2010. she basically has nothing good to say about muslims and accuses them of being terrorists and killing jews and doesn't make distinctions between radical factions and all muslims and that's why she's on our list. >> do you think that the more attention that is drawn to her events or her points of view, that the more trouble it causes? i know there was a big cry for people to just ignore this event that she was having i

. >> pamela geller was saying, i'm not anti-muslim, i'm anti-jihad. sounds like she has some specific beliefs, whether you agree with her or not. what does she believe when it comes to muslims and islam? >> pamela geller believes that islam is inherently violent,

and now, this unfolds what does this suggest about the state of jihad? >> i just heard your discussion about what is garland? why in texas? every time you have an attack of a town or location and you ask why arkansas? why texas? or boston? what -- looking now, it's after targeting. this is not a military base. this is where i'm looking now. so drama is higher now. that is why i compared it to charlie hebdo, that he will vats my concern higher. that tells me that those who perpetrate it, justice systems get us more facts. it's clear they have targeted and prepared they knew when it's going to end. they were unlucky which is good for us >> very good for us. this is in america we value our freedom of speech. so what is hard to what is our way of combatting this kind of situation? what -- you have to fight for supporters the most unfortunate. that is law enforcement, counter terrorism. the entire power of the government. the federal government to stop them we need to know who radicalized these individuals. i believe 65 attempts, three were violent. of course

. >> pamela geller was saying, i'm not anti-muslim, i'm anti-jihad. sounds like she has some specific beliefs, whether you agree with her or not. what does she believe when it comes to muslims and islam? >> pamela geller believes that islam is inherently violent, inherently prone to terrorism and should be condemned wholesale. this is not someone who minces words. this is not someone who has a nuanced perspective on islam or its 1.6 billion practitioners. that's one of the reasons why the southern poverty law center and the anti-defamation league have both condemned her organization the american freedom defense initiative as a hate group. >> bigger picture, todd you wrote this whole book on islamaphobia here in america. what did you find? what did you think would most surprise us? >> well that this is a very long history in terms of the anxieties and the fears and really the hostilities towards islam and muslims in the west. this goes all the way back to the middle ages. it's alive and well today in the 21st century. so its longevity personcertainly w

it is tried to avoid terms like islam and jihad. that's a reasonable thing to do in public messaging. the area where sometimes disagreed is that i think if we as analysts are able to process the ideological dimension we are at a disadvantage but in terms of public messaging i don't think it's advantageous for the u.s. to make its enemy radical islam at large. >> pic terrace uses the adjective islamic in a correct way because i believe islamic terrorism is too long but because they are appealing to islamic sources we need to see something. if i could impose the muslim term for these people it is call robbie and i have been giving references referring in the most vile terms. in fact we believe in the tradition of these people subscribe to that the antichrist himself emerges from the remnants so those are the two terms of anchorage using. >> thanks. jm. >> i do agree that we need to understand as people studying the problem however in terms of public dialogue in terms of the motivation of this we must name the enemy and the thing i thi

defeat jihad. in the city were not so happy about these ads so they ran counter ads. the rabbis' ad said quote in the choice between love and hate choose love. help stop bigotry against our muslim neighbors. talk about that a bit. >> absolutely. this is the beauty of any faith teachings, which is to see the humanity in others. not to devalue their lives. not to seek ways of division. seek ways of union. so those rabbis the pastors, the members of all of the faiths that we work with we value that relationship. and it proves that this is a political thing. it's not a religious thing. so pam geller is a political figure who seeks to divide people. girt wilders is literally a political figure who seeks to divide and castigate one group aside as being different from the rest. and that's not what we do in a civilized society with moral integrity. so i work with any of these rabbis and pastors who are willing to actually fix society and advance peace. >> harris zafar thank you so much for being with me th

i'm looking at the title of the hearing, jihad 2.0. i think -- i think that's a wrong title. it is really the current evolution of terrorist recruitment. we have got a panel of i think excellent witnesses to lay out the reality, which is what we're always trying to do in this committee, which is if you solve a problem, you have to first recognize and acknowledge that reality. so i think we have got a good panel. i would ask consent to enter my written opening statement to the record. it is always granted because our ranking member is such a kind gentleman. what i would like to do is talk a little bit about a isis message that warns of 71 trained soldiers in 15 u.s. states 23 signed up for missions. i'm going to read some excerpts here because, let me say, we have no knowledge whether this is true or not. i think some of our witnesses will probably say it is bluster. let's hope so. but this is a perfect example of what isis is trying to do and how they're trying to use social media. their post, and of course, this is claiming credit for the terrorist attacks in texas, excerpts

they called for a jihad against isis. the iraqi government failed in ramadi. and now you have the shia militias which are believers. they are sectarian. they're going into an area that's 100% sunni. this reverberations -- if they manage to take ramadi and march through one town to another, the reverberations across the middle east will be dire. i can guarantee you that. what washington is trying to do is walk a fine line here between two jihads the sunni one and the shia one and it's not easy to do and iran has stepped in to the void and is trying to control the shia and leading this in many ways either by arms or having advisers on the ground and we are playing a very much minor role in that country now. i'm not sure what we can do. >> so this will perhaps turn into a regional sectarian war? >> you know i just got back from europe and talked to a lot of people that deal with saudi arabia. they are worried about its future because of the war in yemen, which is another sectarian war and war in iraq. what saudis on the street are saying is the royal family hasn'

excuse me, i am anti-jihad. one that says i'm anti-muslim is implying all muslims support jihad. >> pamela geller talking there. as most of you would know, depictions of the prophet muhammad are considered blaspheme. earlier spoke to our guest, he talked about the violent reaction of groups to drawings of their prophet. >> we have groups like isis, al qaeda, terrorist groups that are luring people who are very impressionable obviously who don't know the religion. stand they're being told to go out and attack those with violence who, insult the prophet. number one, the koran tells us that the prophet was insulted by his opponent's throughout his life. and in each and every case the prophet met that insult with the power of silence. with ignoring those who ridicule him. every prophet was ridiculed, in fact. so the muslim is actually taught, in the koran, to persevere, be patient, to repel evil with that which is good. so the one with whom there is enemy, becomes your closest friend. so the bullets that were -- int

my chance today is to outline the threat from -- the newest wave in domestic jihad-ism in the united states. we have identified 62 at individuals from public records have try to join isis or newsworthy al qaeda affiliates or trying to do so. they come from across the united states. we found cases in 19 states. james komi says that some of these are not public yet. they do not fit any public profile. they are bosnian americans this creates problems. unlike in the case of al-shabaab which attracted somali americans mainly from minnesota. that was a very focused group of who was going. this is across the united states. we found american females. these are a group -- this is a group of misogynistic individuals. yet we found about 1/5 of the 62 females, a number of them are teenagers. this is a new phenomenon this is a relatively young group. there were teenagers as young as 15. the only profile that they share is act to on the social media. in some cases, directly communicating with members of isis this is a new development in the way that jobless terrorism -- jihadis terrorists are recr

i'm looking at the title of the hearing, jihad 2.0. social media in the next evolution of terrorist recruitment. unfortunately i think -- i think , that's a wrong title. it is really the current evolution of terrorist recruitment. we have got a panel of i think excellent witnesses to lay out the reality, which is what we're always trying to do in this committee, which is if you solve a problem, you have to first recognize and acknowledge that reality. so, i think we have got a good panel. i would ask consent to enter my written opening statement to the record. it is always granted because our ranking member is such a kind gentleman. what i would like to do is talk a little bit about an isis message that warns of 71 trained soldiers in 15 u.s. states, 23 signed up for missions. i'm going to read some excerpts here because, let me say, we have no knowledge whether this is true or not. i think some of our witnesses will probably say it is bluster. let's hope so. but this is a perfect example of what isis is trying to do, and how they're t

i'm anti-jihad. anyone that says that i'm anti-muslim is implying that all muslims support jihad. that soundsislamicphobic to me. >> they supported your right to freedom of speech. this was a new york city muslim community leader. she says pamela geller can draw whatever cartoon she wants and i defend her right to do so. i have always fought for her right to be a bigot and i have the right to counterher ig botry with -- counter her bigotry. >> we don't know how many others were involved attempted to open fire on a gathering of free speech. that's the problem. you are bringing it up with silly distractions. no one is saying there aren't peaceful muslims. there is a problem in islam that's illustrated last night and anyone that addresses it gets attacked. >> okay. so let's talk more about those comments with a columnist for "the daily beast." good morning. thank you for coming in. is ms. geller right? it proves there's a segment of the population in the united states who are radical islamists and are intent to harm. >> i think that having pamela geller talk to us about islam is leak

excuse me, i'm anti-jihad.e that says that i'm anti-muslim is implying that all muslims support jihad. >> well sure -- >> that sounds islamic phobic to me. >> the reason people believe your group is anti-islam is because of quotes like that from the keynote speaker where he was just talking about islam. he wasn't talk -- what you're mentioning i mean the things that you're citing are the extremism, the violence, the terrorism. but he's just talking about islam. i mean how can you say that 3 million muslims here in the united states are humorless? how can you say that they don't believe in -- >> he did not say that. he did not say that. we're talking about the ideology. under the sharia there is creed apartheid. there is gender apartheid. there is islamic anti-semitism and misogyny. these are very real. and who gives voice to the voiceless? where are the victims get to speak? every time a victim speaks out they're accused of islamaphobia. it's absurd on its face. you can quote mr. individualers. when you're talk

the national security, the fact that he is very active in this area in dealing with them, the global jihadovement, and also very strong on the economic front because was one of the people that stood up with the balanced budget amendment, and was the first guy to come back with the rollback of federal entitlements, where he did welfare reform. at age 38, rick santorum. john: i went to ask you, we do not have much time with you. i want to ask you quickly, to the extent that rick santorum is a viable candidate going forward, with his track record in this age of super pacs, people look at other people like yourself as potentially giving him the ability to compete by donating large amounts of money to a super pac that might support him. i saw a quoted the other day about the donor contacts, you said you were going to be less noticed and lower profile. does that mean you are giving him less money? foster friess: last session, i was pretty naÏve, and i was getting requests to fund dogcatchers in little towns of missouri, so i think i want to be more low-profile, and the amount of money that i giv

on the one hand, france one -- francois hollande is fighting against jihadism, but on the other hand, scratching the back of regimes that are backing jihadist groups. genie: let's wrap up with the french paper liberation. 40 women journalists have written an open letter condemning sexism from male politicians. flo: the beginning of that manifesto is on the front page. it's a very passionate and exasperated front page. you can see it is translated as "hands off!" these 40 women journalists have pulled together a list of recent incidents they have experienced. one politician, for instance said "that is a very girly question" and another woman received a text message saying "i will give you the scoop if you have a drink with me." and they point out that the sexism goes the other way. women in power often described in articles in a very sexist way. they point out the exact same tropes and language usually used to describe women in power. that is translated as "macron the hunk in power" and it focuses on his appearance. genie: you can seeccccccccccccccccccccccccccc

why do young men -- and they are almost all young men -- lust for jihad?imple explanation. >> none of them have ever held jobs, power, or a girl's hand. and when you put large numbers of young males together and you offer them a wife, you offer them a salary, and you offer them the ability to lord it over somebody else, that is isis' value proposition. >>> next on "blindsided" is isis a threat to the united states? to the homeland? i'll give you my thoughts when we come back. why do we do it? why do we spend every waking moment, thinking about people? why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with a conscience? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you, it's everything to us. the xc60 crossover. from volvo. lease the well equiped volvo xc60 today. visit your local volvo showroom for details. >>> you've heard so much and seen so much about isis, it's easy to get anxious, it's trying to scare you and confuse you. just recently the group took credit for a plann

why do young men -- and they are almost all young men -- lust for jihad?. >> none of them have ever held jobs, power, or a girl's hand. and when you put large numbers of young males together and you offer them a wife, you offer them a salary, and you offer them the ability to lord it over somebody else, that is isis' value proposition. >>> next on "blindsided" is isis a threat to the united states? to the homeland? i'll give you my thoughts when we come back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> you've heard so much and seen so much about isis, that it's easy to get anxious, it's trying to scare you and confuse you. just recently the group took credit for a planned attack in garland, texas. but so far, it appears that two perpetrators were simply inspired by isis not actually a part of it. let me offer a few tentative thoughts about the group. isis is clearly about religion, about its version of radical islam. but it is also about power. there's increasing evidence that the military backbone of isis is made up not by a group of islamic zealots, but rather high ranking officers fro

obama is totally clueless if fighting the jihad?s no clue what to do and that the jihadists have gained in power under his administration in a remarkable fashion? would that be fair to say? >> that is not fair. the president has made progress. but he certainly has to do a lot more. he doesn't necessarily have to put u.s. boots on the ground. in your opinion why isn't he doing a lot more? >> well -- >> -- we need to think before we shoot. >> he has had had had a lot of time to think about this. >> is he is putting together a plan. >> putting together a plan? >> right. >> it's been going on for more than a year. >> absolutely. he needs to be arming and providing training to the forces that are on the ground that are in direct contact with like the kurdish. >> they need more weapons absolutely. >> being divided between the iranian jihadists on the one hand and sunni jihadists on the other from libya to syria to iraq to lebanon. >> the whole place is going to go up. >>> next up, in this terrorism edition of the factor, judge napolitano

i'm anti-jihad. anyone that says i'm anti-muslim is implying that all muslims jihad. >> listening to that, she makes the case she is not anti-muslim. fist of all do, you agree? and second of all do, you think she is religion baiting here? >> she is about as anti-muslim as you can get. that's not my words. the anti-defamation league has denounced her for vilifying islam. she is the queen of anti-muslim rhetoric. she spent $100,000 on posters in the new york city subways a few months ago. for her to say she is not anti-muslim is disingenuous and dishonest. she is baiting. she is trying to do this. the american muslim organizations and myself we defend her right to be a bigot. this is america. you have it right. and we counter it by words. we counter it by mocking her like some people in our community have done not violence there is no place for violence whatsoever. >> you are very strong on the freedom of expression issues. >> absolutely. >> saying even if this is offensive to some, americans in partic

that's his jihad, what's yours? the charlie hebdo things not to excuse you but on a public transport system. >> i think that -- >> people are irresponsible. >> yes, but in my opinion you don't ban advertising to do that. the way you combat hateful speech is by more public speech. okay? you condemn people who engage in that kind of rhetoric. to -- you know what is lost in this discussion is, these are a few ads in the context of 100 years. >> sure. >> if i want to run ads on the train now and say the mtata wants to cut the number four line or cut this bus line out, call your legislator or call your city council member or call the mta i'm precluded from doing that and so i'm effectively -- >> you agree, most people agree that yelling fire in a crowded speech is not protected -- in a crowder theater is not protected, others are saying this is akin to that, crowded subway crowded bus is like a crowded theater. >> it's an offensive ad. i think new yorkers are smarter than that. there are a lot of offensive ads. a large b

they sees them in syria and still others from the syrian army. >> the jihad carried out on palmyra has sparked international outrage. with fears that the unesco world heritage site could soon be destroyed, just like other ancient sites in iraq. some also see the militants selling other items abroad. it is not clear if other criminals are taking advantage of the situation. molly: voting is underway in the ireland gay marriage referendum. it is opposed by the catholic church, which has historically played a defining role in irish culture. allowing gay couples to wed would be a massive change in the country. homosexuality was only decriminalized in 1993. a motion -- abortion remains illegal there except when the mother's life is in danger. the vote is required by law. opponents say it threatens family values, but those in favor say it is a vote for equality. >> i just think at any point in history, change which is more progressive and inclusive can help the people of a country. i think it is great for the inclusivity, and i think would be positive in general to have this positive change i

why do young men -- and they are almost all young men -- lust for jihad?iedman has a simple explanation. >> none of them have ever held jobs, power, or a girl's hand. and when you put large numbers of young males together and you offer them a wife, you offer them a salary, and you offer them the ability to laud it over somebody else, that is isis' value proposition. >>> next on "blindsided" is isis a threat to the united states? to the homeland? i'll give you my thoughts when we come back. seeing the light.on customers ae t-mobile has america's fastest 4g lte network from the bay area to the big apple. and more data capacity per customer. need one more reason? get two lines of unlimited 4g lte data for a hundred bucks save without settling on america's fastest 4g lte network >>> you've heard so much and seen so much about isis, it's easy to get anxious. it's trying to scare you and confuse you. just recently the group took credit for a planned attack in garland, texas. but so far, it appears that two perpetrators were simply inspired by isis and not actual

as president, i promise you that we will no longer merely try to contain jihadism. we will conquer it. [applause] [applause] >> we have deal with jihadis just like we would deal with deadly snakes. and let there be no doubt israel will know as will the whole world we are their trusted friend and the ayatollah of iran will know that hell will freeze over before they get a nuclear weapon. i commit this today i will never apologize for america. ever! [applause] >> we face not only the threats from terrorism but the threat of new kind of dangerous. from a cyber war that could shutdown major financial markets to threats of an electromagnetic device that could fry the electrical grid and take this country back to the stone age in a matter of moments and waiting till it happens is too late. we lost our way moralally witnesses the slaughter of 50 million babies in the name of choice and are threatening the name of religious liberty by criminalizing christianity and demanding we abandon biblical principles of natural marriage. [applause] >> many of our politicians have surre

very much like the charlie hebdo jihad slaughter. reporter: there's also criticism about the gathering itself. >> free speech is not a free ticket. there are limitations on what you can say to a certain extent. so we have to be responsible in that regard but it's a fine line because we don't want to do something that would forever remove our rights as americans to have that freedom of expression in safe spaces. reporter: for hours the bodies of both attackers were left where they fell. police worried they had explosives on them. local muslim groups called for the community to ignore the event and not give it publicity and said the attack here has just catapulted into the headlines. the issue surrounding islam and free speech, even here in america. bbc news, garland, texas. katty: i spoke to the senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracies. i have to say, when i first heard about this shooting there was almost a sense of inevidentibility about it, was there? daveed: in america we have not had something like this occu

and as president s, i know we wl face radical jihadism.e put more pressure on our ally israel to cease building bedrooms for families than we do on iran for building a bomb. dealing with radicals who chant death to america and fund bombs and rockets to murder civilians in israel is nonsense. so when i hear the current president say he wants christians to get off their high horse to make nice with radical jihadists, i wonder -- i wonder if he can watch a western from the '50s and figure out who the good guys and bad guys really are. [ applause ] as president i promise you we will no longer try to contain jihadism, we will conquer it. [ applause ] we will deal with jihadies as we would deal with deadly snakes. and let there be no doubt israel will know as will the whole world that we are their trusted friend and the ayatollahs of iran will know that hell will freeze over before they get a nuclear weapon. [ applause ] and i commit this to you today. i will never, ever apologize for america. ever. [ applause ] we face not only the threats from

pro-jihad or maybe you offended some of the peaceful muslims you referred to?h pendeh offended some of the muslims, that's about living in a country with free speech. it's the first amendment protecting all speech and most of all political speech. who would decide what's good and forbidden? the islamic state? these two gunmen? remember these were -- this con test was for political cartoons. mohamed cartoons. yeah. political cartoons cartoons are political critique, and with political islam, which is imposing restrictions on free speech we are lampooning it and what's interesting is the winner of the contest is a former muslim. bosh foreston. we should be able to have this conversation. we can't have an event discussing or showing mohammed tar toons or a mohammed play? this is america. this is not saudi arabia. >> i'm not questioning your right to hold the event. i think there might be some questioning the wisdom of it, but i understand what you're saying. pamela geller thank you so much for coming here with us. appreciate it. >>> coming up next we just smoke to

are any of your relatives in the jihad theater? do you wish to execute a suicide operation?d we contact if you become a martyr? the most sickening part is the last line. praise allah, lord of all worlds. nope. not really at all. you can get my take delivered to you via e-mail every day, foxnews.com/therealstory. it's easy to sign up. >>> another alert now. no signal malfunctions found in that deadly amtrak crash. the news coming from the ntsb right now as investigators try to figure out why that train derailed. trace gallagher live with more on that. this is breaking right now. what did you find out? >> it is just breaking. we are reading the document right now. no anomalies or malfunction in the signal. that shows new that area everything was working properly as train 188 was barrelling down the tracks. another key piece of the investigation is the engineer's cell phone. was he on the cell phone was a big question? they are saying on the day of the accident he did make cell phone calls. that he did, in fact text people. the question now is detect or make a call right before

in fact i'd argue there's no way she could hate jihad more than i do. i've seen jihad up close in an iraqi province where jihadists raped women to shame them into becoming suicide bombers and put them on boys' backpacks and remotely detonated chem and cheered them wild lie like they were at a soccer match and shot babies in the face to send a message." the man who wrote that column national review staff writer david french. thanks for joining us. you heard pamela geller weigh in. where are you on this? do you feel her pain? do you feel this? >> you know, it is astonishing to me we're having thousands and thousands of words of commentary after a woman is nearly killed with all of her friends and supporters in that commentary is focusing on whether or not she talks about these genocidal jihadists with another nuance. it makes no sense whatsoever. there is no way to conform our lives in a manner that pleases the jihadists unless we adopt the exact same brand of sunni islam they espouse. i mean the exact same brand. it makes no sense whatsoever. >> i read y

we are at war with jihadism. the people who believe that their purpose on earth is to kill everybody who doesn't, who don't agree with them religiously, yes, we are at war with that and as soon as we come to grips with it and the sooner we realize that that level of religious fanatacism that is all about killing everybody even other muslims, the sooner we are going to be able to identify it, surround it and ultimately defeat it. >> schieffer: governor, when i listen to your announcement sphweech the other day from hope arkansas when you get to that part about saving social security, you sounded more like a democrat than a republican to me. how is that going to go over in these republican primaries states? >> well, i think i sounded more like an american. i sound like an american who understands that people have been paying in, in my case, since i was 14 years old, when i got my first job people pay into a system for 50 years people act like, why act on people when they are on welfare when they get a social securi

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in my own experience, you don't find a lot of people going off to jihad or to blow up an airplane.ple are naturally western leaning. that doesn't go for everybody. let us give the iranians a chance. let's take things one state at a -- one stage at a time. al: do you think things are not going as the brits and the americans expected? sir peter: i think we are horrified by what might happen of losing a world heritage site. there a lot of bad things, you are right. we wanted to see the iraqi government be more inclusive. they can push back against the atrocities committed. that is what we do. it is part of our us-led coalition against isil. al: they say they don't seem to want to fight themselves. sir peter: some of this is linked to sectarianism or traditions. i think it is disappointing, but we have to continue to work to try to ensure that the iraqi armed forces have the capability and inclusive nature they need to have if they will be representing the whole of their country. they have begun to push back. it is in our interest they will do so p it have provided military training an

sadr has not waste his support for initially they jihads in syria.what ended up happening is the iranians were clever and crafty sadr groups, but they didn't have that much loyalty towards them. this caused a lot of problems saying he did support it. because it has occurred once more we have to deal with two main factions which will play into the iranian difficulty. the first split off from sadr and when it did the iranians to them and formed them into a specialized organization that had nothing but problems with sadr. they tried to call them back and say we can join together, don't worry about it. didn't work out that way. they stayed and follow their own path. though the commander unit ship on the is also a sadr splintered. she was arrested when the occupation was there and was freed as part of an exchange. you can see how the sadrist splinters are exerting pressure. what happened when the kataib kizballah announced his presence they posted a number of photos holding severed heads and they said we are the actual nasty. now you can see on the patche