journal he had, which had a long-standing culture of investigative reporting, very -- in fact, jill abramsonut of that culture, he made a speech to staff in which he said, i don't want more of these stories that have the gestation period of a llama. a gestation period of a llama, i had to look it up, issaayear. >> smith: i'm guessing it's long. [ laughter ] >> keller: is a, is a year ann my response was, gee we're just publishing this great david baastow seriess3 that was a llama and a half. [ laughter ] >> smith: i'll show you what3 we should be doing right, yeah. well, that's interesting and i mean, obbiiusly the time, time is, but nn of the many resources that ou all have that maybe other peoole don't have quite as much of. you mention the wikileaks thing, i want to ask you if3 you have any regrets about that. you played a lead role in getting juliin assange on the national consciousness and in getting the material that wikileaks put out there in front of all of us. >> keller: my only regret is that the price you pay for getting on the wrong side of julian assange is that you're condemmed

with jill abramson, the executive editor of "the new york times", tom friedman the columnist and the bureau chief in washingn david leonhardt. >>lways in hindsight it's perfect 20/20 vision. i think in realtime journalists worldwide covered what was going and you know, saw that something big was developing and spreading. >> we're going to put 2011, charlie n that list of 1989, 1848. it's going to be one of those years. you feel right now we're present athe creation again. you know, we are all present athe creation of something. but what's so interesting about this, it feels like after world war i, after world war ii, after the cold war but this time there was no war. but we are seeing states tumble as if there had been a war but this time there was no war. >> i think of that as really the central question about iraq as we are leaving and about all of the arab spring. do we see this incredibly important strategic region of the world? start to follow a path of china and india. or does it remain vastly behind and not even catching? >>. >> we continue this with david recommend nick-- rem

next the first of 2q update programs of the new york times and jill abramson.that is followed an hour later with a conversation. and looking at prime-time programming, across the c-span networks. join us tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern for more from our series, the contenders. tonight's program features george wallace. here on c-span2 and 2:00, book tv. and i'm c-span three, history tv with a look at american artifacts. a look at a map of iowa republican presidential candidates are fanning out across the state campaigning in the events of tuesday's first innovation caucus. earlier today we spoke with the president of the demint chamber of commerce. >> we are south of downtown atoe to mourn at the location of cream cup cake, a bakery and we are joined by its owner kristine the market. not only does she serve as the owner of the business but she is also the president of theo thesd downtown demesne chamber. des thank you for joining us. tell us a little bit about small businesses and have the benefit from the caucuses coming to town? >> the best thing about thebenef

and at 6:00 the first of to q&a programs with the new york times jill abramson.s, the contenders. tonight's program features george wallace. here on c-span2 at 8:00, book tv top programs on presidential biographies. and history tv with a look at american artifacts. look at a map of iowa republican presidential candidates are fanned out across the state campaigning in advance of tuesday's first in the nation primaries. earlier today we spoke with the president of the to moines chamber of commerce about the caucuses. >> we are south of downtown tomn mourn at the location of cream cup cake, a bakery, and we are joined by its owner, christina market. not only does disservice the honor of the business, she is also the president of the downtown des moines chamber.f thank you for joining us. c tell us a little bit about what small>> business and how they benefit from the caucuses coming to town. >> the best thing about thebe caucus for us is that january is normally are slow season. as soon as christmas is over,ana the new year's resolution, it is normally cold. people