i'm talking to jill abramson. i wake up in the morning, and i reach over to the night table and pick up my iphone and i call up "the new york times" app rather than walk outside and pick up the newspaper itself, which is sitting there, which often doesn't get read. i mean, is that something that happens to you? >> i actually am a multi-platform reader. it depends on where and when i am, but i still get immense pleasure out of reading the print newspaper. >> i do, too. >> i spend at least an hour every morning actually -- even though i've read, i mean, we published a lot of the articles that are in the paper on our website, and they've been published on our apps, too. but i still love, you know, just in some ways the serendipity seeing a story inside one of the sections i didn't know about before. you find yourself reading it. you don't know quite why, but it's sort of a joyous experience. >> we share that love of print. >> we're both of a certain age. >> we are of a certain age, shall we say. >> we are. my father

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make of the new york times now talking about national security is effectively being criminalize jill abramsonnew york times. >> at top complaint among reporters of the white house i that affirmation is really kind of hard to come by. we have seen throughout the past year with things coming on with the nsa and reporters at this network having trouble ggtting access to resources and things like that being a problem. so i think this is handle a long-running issue. lou: what happened to the open, transparency the first executive order the guy signs and. effect makes george bush's orders of presidential papers even tougher. >> the difference between governing and campaigning. here he is, he campaigned as this ideologue. he gets into office and has to face the realities of being president of the united states. it's a very dangerous world. i am not exactly thrilled with the way he is handle national-security, and it should be more open to transparency reporters who want to have a reasonable conversation. there has to be a balance. lou: that is always tough to find in wartime. we are war. a lot of pe

lou: i was astonished to see jill abramson talk about this administration to be most secretive in herent. the ukraine, president again, blusterring bellicose lines drawn. with the ukraine. now what? your thoughts. >> as we see when there is some one of these happening in wore obama never comes down on the side of freedom, we have a different iran right now if obamhad taken less than two weeks to come out support the green revolution. we saw in honduras whe"the dictator" in waiting was kicked out by their supreme court, and thr congress 124 hours obama had a stateme of support for him, when a question between tyranny for freedom, obama's record speaks for itself, he dud not side with people fighting for freedom. lou: brad thor thank you. >> my pleasure. lo up next, vice president biden admits that administration will miss there are obamacare enroll amls, we're coming back with the a-team stay with disblus president obama still drags ought his dig on the keystone pipe only, as a billionaire lift wing global warming activist, tries to buyout of president's fellow democrats, jame i weinst

lou: i was astonished to see jill abramson talk about this administration to be most secretive in her judgment. the ukraine, president again, blusterring bellicose lines drawn. with the ukraine. now what? your thoughts. >> as we see when there is some one of these happening in wore obama never comes down on the side of freedom, we have a different iran right now if obama had taken less than two weeks to come out support the green revolution. we saw in honduras when "the dictator" in waiting was kicked out by their supreme court, and their congress 124 hours obama had a statement of support for him, when a question between tyranny for freedom, obama's record speaks for itself, he dud not side with people fighting for freedom. lou: brad thor thank you. >> my pleasure. lou: up next, vice president biden admits that administration will miss there are obamacare enroll am goals, we're coming back with the a-team stay with disblus president obama still drags ought his dig on the keystone pipe only, as a billionaire lift wing global warming activist, tries to buyout of president's fellow demo

if you listen to what jill abramson has said about his secrecy and lynn downey, the former editor of "the washington post" has said, and mark sanger saying this is a control freak administration, his real beef is with the media in general. he still has to go on. >> i wonder whether the president secretly enjoys the combat with o'reiley or at the very least thinks this kind of an interview, if it's a combative interview, can help him. >> no, and typically i don't think it has been. i don't think bill o'reiley has been combative. the last time he got the president to agree to do something for wounded warriors. and you have to try and keep in mind, i don't think there's any question the president doesn't like fox and i think that fox has been, at times, especially in our opinion journalism, very antagonistic towards the president. i mean, but the part that's interesting here is you go back a little ways and you get people like anita dunn, when she was the communications director with the white house, the idea was to delegitimize fox as a new o outlet, that people like -- i know this per

next to her, jill abramson. obviously, she needs no introduction to editors of the new york times. think it is fair to say the new york times is still the , the editorial voice that is most listened to by the establishment in the u.s. i hope that is not too controversial. have david, we schultz. he is a leading first member lawyer. he is a partner in a law firm. "guardian" lawyer on links, ind wiki believe. he has been inside our two biggest stories of this kind. and we are very pleased to have my colleague here. one of the things we had thought was to get someone from the administration or the nsa to come talk to us. they are not quite ready for that yet. we hope they will at some point. he is one of the country for a leading scholars and constitutional law. he served in the obama administration, and the office of information. he's very excited to be on the panel. he is married to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n.. -- tonight he is here as a member of president obama's convened in response to the revelations by snowden. we are going to address what is the journalism after snowden, b