phillip rucker, jill colvin, who spoke to sam nunberg tonight, former u.s. attorney joyce advance and john heilemann, our msnbc analyst. jill, you spoke to him last. what can you report about what may or may not happen on friday? >> you had sam giving interview after interview after interview where he was really just charging, threatening not to participate in any of the mueller subpoena requests, saying he wasn't going to show up on friday, threatening to arrest him if they wanted to. but in my conversation with him after he finished all his cable news shows, he was in a much more somber mood. he said i'm really frustrated, they asked me for all of these e-mails, i e-mailed steve bannon and roger stone every day, it's so many hours of work they put me through, i don't understand i have to do, i didn't do anything wrong but i guess in the end i'll end up cooperating with them anyway. he said he's not sure how he's going to wind up turning over these e-mails. he said ideally he'd like mueller to come back with a revised subpoena that included fewer people. he

jill colvin, white house reporter for the a.p. chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney, former senior fbi official, now lucky for us an msnbc contributor. and steve schmidt is back with us today. courtney, let me start with you on your reporting, and i think this is a development since your story broke. i'm sure prompted by the incredible detail in this account. but i understand that the much now expulsion of russian diplomats didn't have anything to do with the number of russian diplomats in this country at all. the head count could very much remain the same. it seems like another data point in the picture you paste -- you paint of a very conflicted donald trump when it comes to russia policy and russia p.r. >> that's right. so, he was presented last week with -- president trump was presented with three different options and he ended up going with the middle one, the one that was in the middle of a lighter option against vladimir putin and the one that was the harsh est and that included expelling the diplomats from the united states. what we found here was pr

jill colvin is with us, phillip rucker back with us also returning former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. jill, i'd like to begin with you, there's a term of art at the white house. something called the in town travel pool. you have the glory and honor of riding many vehicles behind the president to go where they are going this evening. he went to a donor's home in virginia for a closed media event. you're among the few that saw him out of the vehicle and walking, correct? >> that's right. >> this is the only appearance we've seen at all. i mean a photographer with a long lens manage to capture an image of him with an umbrella, capturing him walking from the white house to a limo. the president has had no events on his public schedule. we haven't been able to ask him questions we couldn't ask him yesterday, today. this is very unusual for the president. he's someone who typically interacts with reporters, we've seen him completely silent on this topic on twitter. usually trump's advisers are begging him to stop tweeting about

he told the associated press in the form of jill colvin, quote, i'm going to end up cooperating with them. he told our own katie tur he will probably cooperate with mueller in the end but doesn't want to make it easy. he wasn't so certain when ari melber talked to him at 9:51 p.m. tonight. at any rate, before nunberg's possible change of heart, he told multiple news outlets he would not be complying with mueller's subpoena and at one point he even told our own ari melber he isn't worried about going to prison. >> they're not going to send me to jail. mr. mueller, if he wants to send me to jail, he can send me to jail and i'll laugh about it and make a bigger spectacle than i am on your tv show right now. >> here to talk about it, bob bennett, veteran lawyer, who was president clinton's personal lawyer in the paula jones case. thank you so much for coming on with us again tonight. what does this gentleman need to understand about a federal subpoena in your view? >> well, it's not an invitation to a garden party where he can say, yes, i'll come or no, i won't come. he's commanded to co

jill colvin, white house reporter for the associated press. philip rutger, white house bureau chief for "the washington post." u.s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. jill, i'd like to begin with you. there's a term of art at the white house. something called the in town travel pool. it means you have the glory and honor of riding many vehicles behind the president to wherever they are going for the evening. tonight i understand he went to a donor's home in virginia for a closed media event. you're among the few that saw him out of the vehicle and walking, correct? >> that's right. this is the only appearance we've seen at all. from the president. when i say appearance, i mean a photographer with a long lens managed to capture an image of him with an umbrella walking from the white house to the limousine to travel to mcclain, virginia, to this event. the president has had no events on his public schedule that have been accessible to reporters. we haven't been able to ask him questions we couldn't ask him yesterday

jill colvin, thank you for being here. appreciate your insights. and coming up, amid chaos and uncertainty within the west wing, some new indications the president may be considering an even bigger shake-up. could he fire his closest advisor and not even replace him? we'll take a look at that. >>> plus, another woman speaks out. the attorney for stormy daniels posts a cryptic image suggesting they are set to reveal a major bombshell ahead of her big interview. so, what did he mean? >>> and more signs the president is switching up his game in the mueller probe. that's when we come right back. . sarge, i just got a tip that'll crack this case wide open! turns out the prints at the crime scene- awwwww...did mcgruffy wuffy get a tippy wippy? i'm serious! we gotta move fast before- who's a good boy? is him a good boy? erg...i'm just gonna go. oh, you wanna go outside? you gotta go tinky poo-poo? i already went, ok? in the bathroom! as long as people talk baby-talk to dogs, you can count on geico saving folks money. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen

jill colvin's back with us, white house reporter for the associated press, who was with the president on his whirlwind trip to california and the midwest. and returning after his all too brief appearance last night, actually early this morning, because of the breaking news we were covering in pennsylvania, is phil elliot, politics correspondent for "time" magazine. phil, since we used your turn of phrase at the top of the broadcast, you called it through your reporting "season 2" for our only president in the history of our republic with a background in reality television. what is it like, what are people inside season 2 telling you? >> they're bracing for high turnover. the long and the short of it is, no one thinks they are immune from being voted off the island, to mix metaphors, a reality show here. on the way over here i was talking with one white house official who likened it to spring cleaning. that the house owner, in this case president trump, has an idea on cleaning a house for aesthetics. and the housekeeper is trying to open the house for the summer and getting rid of ever

. >> rick: lots more to discuss on this, jill colvin but we're out of time. thanks for being with us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> it is being called facebook's worst crisis yet after a firm linked to the trump campaign accessed the data of millions of its users. the impact this could have on the social networking giant. plus growing concerns about russia. yet again interfering with our now upcoming midterm elections and what u.s. lawmakers can do to try and stop it. and do they have enough time to fix it? senator lindsey graham will join me next live. but first, here's senator john cornin. >> we know what they did in 20167. we don't know what they might do in 2018 which could, in a close election, affect the outcome and that would be a devastating for our country. ♪ ♪ keep your insights from prying eyes, so they won't be used by anyone but you. the ibm cloud. the cloud for smarter business. >> julie: get this, russia may already be trying to interfere with the midterm elections. that's right. the c.i.a. saying it already is seeing russian activit