. >>> let's turn to jill dougherty, a public policy scholar at woodrow wilson center. do you make of putin's remarks calling for talks that include the issue of staidhood? >> i this it's classic putin. it's clear and unclear at the same time. i mean, did he actually mean statehood? it's kind of couched, well, the status of not necessarily statehood although that word can be interpreted that way. in other words, what -- and then, also, his spokesperson said, no, he wasn't talking about statehood at all. he was talk about the talks that he wants, peace talks, between ukraine and the rebels. what's happening here, fredricka, and this now a constant theme, he says something, it's interpreted as a threat, and then he pulls back and they say, no, it wasn't really a threat, we didn't mean that. you can see it in the way the russian troops are being used. they're there, people are seeing them, and then you know russia says, i'm sorry, they just kind of unmaneuvered and went over the border. this is all probably on purpose and becoming very dangerous in terms of kind of what th