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joining me now is jill dougherty, global fellow for the woodrow wilson center. , thanks for being with us. how is this story affecting ukraine? how will the distraction hurt ukraine's ability to fight corruption? >> it's bad on many levels. ukraine has a long history of major corruption, no question. just the image of the country is out there with the word corruption. democratically, it will hurt president zelensky. it hurts him because he doesn't want to be drawn into something that has democrats and republican republicans he doesn't want to take sides. it weakens him domestically within ukraine because he looedd let's say, not forceful when he had the performance with president trump at the united nations. it makes it harder to do any deal with putin to solve and resolve the conflict in the ukraine. >> he is new to politics. he came from the world of acting. my, my, welcome to your new role. developments are fast and curious. the white house worked to limit access to president trump's conversations with foreign leaders, including, mr. putin. mr. trump, of cours