roth who currently teaches at new york's cardoza school of law, joey jackson, jury consultant jill huntley taylor. jessica, let me start off with everybody here. did you have any idea it would be this quick, the deliberations and that result? >> i'm not surprised by the result. i am surprised by the speed. in fact, i'm shocked by the speed. i never anticipated that we would have a guilty verdict within three hours. thinking was a complex trial with a lot of witnesses, a lot of evidence. >> well what the speed suggests to me is the jury didn't see i as being that complicated at all, actually. and at the end of the day, it was pretty straight forward. it really amounted to video of the defendant at the kennels that was on paul's phone that he didn't know existed until fairly recently. the lie that he told to the police officers about not being at the kennels, even though he was caught on the videotape being at the kennels, and the timeline. the fact that he had the opportunity to commit the murder, and really, nobody else plausibly did. that's what it came down to. that's pretty straight forward. >