. >> jill stewart is the managing editor of this -- the former manager editor of the he l.a. weekry and former manager direct of the doings serve l.a. she an experience radio commentator. for seven years she was a metro reporter with "los angeles times" focus many topics he teaches journalism at chapman university and is a free lance editor, analyst and strategics, gloria romero is an education reformer, in 2001 she was elected to the 24th senate strict of california representing east los angeles. she was chose into serve as senate democratic caucus chair and as senate majority leader. the first woman to ever held that leadership position. and she is also evidence as chair thereof see senate education committee. tim deroche is has worked wife client's k through 1 education, serving public school stricts, charter school networks. he is an alumnus of both the international consulting firm and the pbs producers academy. his first book, the ballad, a re-telling of huck finn on the los angeles river was featured on cbs sudden morning. so that's everybody for the evening. i'm going

stewart, fort campbell, fort carson, colorado. he just unilaterally disregard, the congress on this matter. >> jill, the president -- we're going to talk about it later in the show, the president has not had the remarkable luck he thought he would have in a supreme court that is now stacked with conservatives. whenever it's a ninth circuit court of appeal, the president invariably will have some comment about how it's a bunch of liberals. but the fact is their decision, their ruling is actually well grounded in, as you said, law and the way we understand budgets and government spending to have to take place. >> exactly. and general mccaffrey is completely correct. this is just one more episode of lawlessness by this administration. we've had a whole series of things from the department of justice, we've had some -- some courts have gone along with the president, but most of them have not. the daca ruling this week, i lost track, it could have been last week, is another example of them saying the president cannot do just whatever he wants to do, he has to follow the rules. and this is a time when we really all need to be paying att