jill winebanks, thank you.ways rely on you. >>> coming up, the latest stunt to sabotage the mueller investigation. new reporting now shows the house intel chair devin nunes was willing to risk the life and safety of an intelligence source in a quest to cover trump. a heads up on what trump and mueller is up to. >>> and plus melania trump unveiled her new initiative this week but it's her husband and allies that now want to defend programs that help children and separate children from their parents at the border. >>> he deserves credit for the progress being made with north korea. of course, but why did he abandon the iran nuclear deal? does he deserve a nobel or is he a neo-con? this is "hardball" where the action is. how much is it? well, if you have a discover card, it's free. no way! yes way! we just think it's important for you to be in the know. all right! hey... ewww! everything ok? being in the know is very good. yeah, it is. ooo don't shake! don't shake! ahhh! know if your social security number is foun

. >> thank you so much, jill winebanks, former special prosecutor, thank you so much. >> thank you. >t the historic meeting with north korea this week. >> we're having very substantive talks with north korea, and a lot of things have already happened with respect to hostaging. i think you'll see good thing, as i said, stay tuned, i think you'll see very, very good things. and also the trip is being scheduled. we now have a date and we have a location. we'll be announcing it soon. >> this as we wait for the release of the three americans the president was alluding to. the detainees, tony kim, kim hawk, and kim hak-song. and thanks for being with us here, bruce. what does that look like, from what you know of the way north korea works, and the limited data that we have today? >> well, certainly keeping the three americans detained would be an impediment to a positive summit. whether they release them so that president trump can bring them home on air force one from wherever the summit will be, or whether they release them prior to that to create more of a positive momentum, we don't kno

. >> jill winebanks, thank you. i want to ask anita and shannon to hang out because there's been lots of talk this morning about the special counsel and there's been talk about the special counsel's boss, rod rosenstein. it comes as trump friendly republican lawmakers and the trump appointed deputy attorney general are kind in a lot will. some conservatives in congress want rosenstein out and he's not taking that lightly. garrett hake is over on capitol hill. garrett, rosenstein and the head of the conservative freedom caucus are now responding to this impeachment possibility story which broke about 24 hours ago on this show on tuesday. where are we with like the class act for mark meadows? >> so when we talked about this yesterday i called this a proxy war essentially between the most conservative republicans in the house, mark meadows, the freedom caucus, and the department of justice sort of in the person of rod rosenstein. you had these articles of impeachment draft and sort of being held back. others have descr

. >>> let me bring in former federal prosecutor now, seth waxman, jill winebanks, msnbc contributor, former assistant watergate special prosecutor is with me. and so is presidential hiss store yarngs store historian, msnbc contributor and author of the new book "the soul of america, the battle for our better angelings. "jon meacham is with me as well. let's start with the news of the day here this assertion that rudy giuliani is making now. he's talking to nbc news, saying they seem to be closer to having the president sit down with special counsel bob mueller. what do you make of that? >> the fact of the product he's going to have to do that. i think giuliani understands if he refused to sit down voluntarily, bob mueller and his team would issue a grand jury subpoena that would compel the president to participate in that process. ultimately if mr. trump and his team challenged that to the courts, he would ultimately lose. knowing that is how it would turn out, it seems they are now moving towards actually sitting down with mr. mueller. he's in a bit of a difficult spot. any criminal