i could go on but we don't have the time, jill winebanks. what do you make of the idea that he now becomes the number one witness so far as used by the committee against his former boss, donald trump? >> i'm very happy that he's telling the truth now. i think he towed to the country to tell the truth when it mattered. there's something that could be done that will prevent trump were running for office again. he failed and he didn't do his diet as a public servant. he was obligated to do that so better late than never, i guess, but it's -- and, again, it would have been even more powerful if he had testified in person. i would hike to see more live testimony because i know from the watergate trial that a live witness just has much more impact on a jury. >> yeah. >> than recordings, even the recordings of the president saying, committing crimes on tape is not as effective as hearing a witness say this is what i heard. this is what i did, so we need more of that. >> very quickly, yamiche, this was republicans against republicans. no one on capi

. >> that will be a good question, jill winebanks, whether the senate judiciary or house judiciary couldwe know there are separation of powers issues here but is that a possibility? seems as if he lives in an accountability free zone. >> unfortunately he does live in that accountability free world. possibility? of course there's a possibility. whether fls political will to do it and how long it would take while the court continues to suffer and whether justice roberts could in some way approach justice thomas and say, you're killing the court. you have to do something here. at this point i don't think that recusal is enough. i think the damage that he has done and the politicization that is apparent from the relationship and, as i said, it's ridiculous to think that justice thomas doesn't know what mrs. thomas is doing or mrs. thomas doesn't know what the cases are before the supreme court. we all know what the cases are and she knows that her case was being decided by him and he was a lone dissenter and the result of losing that case, of it being -- he being the lone dissenter is that w

down everything and all of the fire hose will shut off if they get control of the government and jill winebanksstrzok, very much appreciate both of you. up next on "the reid out," kevin mccarthy seems to be back in the doghouse, and trump is clearly rattled by what he's seeing by the 1/6 committee. the reid out continues right after this. e 1/6 committee. the reid out continues right after this (music) who said you have to starve yourself to lose weight? who said you can't do dinner? who said only this is good? and this is bad? i'm doing it my way. meet plenity. an fda -cleared clinically proven weight management aid for adults with a bmi of 25-40 when combined with diet and exercise. plenity is not a drug - it's made from naturally derived building blocks and helps you feel fuller and eat less. it is a prescription only treatment and is not for pregnant women or people allergic to its ingredients. talk to your doctor or visit myplenity.com to learn more. ♪ baby got back by sir mix-a-lot ♪ unlimited cashback match... only from discover. finding the perfect designer isn't easy. but, at upwork, w

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