joining me now, jillian turner. katie, editor of town hall.com. both are fox news contributors. and aaron mcpike, who covers the white house for independent journal review. julian, to what extent are these attacks designed to instill fear in britain and around the world by generating saturation media coverage? >> 100%. that's pretty much -- aside from killing as many people as possible during the attack itself, this is the purpose of those attacks. and to that degree, they're enjoying unprecedented success in the last year, couple of years. this is something that isis has excelled at and really driven to new heights, thanks to social media and the way that they reach out to the community of interested people you know? by that, i mean potential terrorists around the world. and hope to get this going. >> thankfully, katie, this is not a huge death toll but justified because what this attack does is instills a sense of fewer and concern that if you're on a bridge in london, if you're shopping at london's market that you can't be entirely sure that you were safe. >> that's one of th

jillian turner, robin simcox. good morning to both of you. action next, robin, what is it?well, one of the things that i was somewhat encouraged by by theresa may's words. we have to make sure they aren't just words. tony blair used to talk tough on terrorism and didn't do much about it. theresa may talked about some of the embarrassing and honest conversations that people needed to have. i'm hoping that is a sign and her encouraging the muslim communities in the u.k. to look at the roots of some of these terrorists. look how people operate like this in their communities. again challenge some of the ideological and theological roots behind these attacks. i hope that's the next step. >> bill: there is an election on thursday. they're back to campaigning today and we'll see whether or not the events of this weekend have an effect on the vote. the most telling thing she said yesterday was the embarrassing conversations that are bound to happen. what did you make of her comments? >> what she means by that is really that she thinks the muslim community inside britain needs to ra

jillian turner is a former white house staff under george w.alienates these other countries that we need. so, part of the -- i have never been supportive of the travel ban. i'm supportive of the president's really smart agenda to continue to build this arab alliance to help the united states and the western world fight terrible. i think it's crucial. my worry is that i don't believe that this travel ban is going to cause or incite more terrorism. i don't agree -- i don't agree with that point but what i worry about. ainsley: can it only prevent some people that might have radical islam in their heart and they want terror? can't it prevent them from coming here? >> it might. but what it might also do is incite those countries, the countries in the ban are precisely the countries who we need as part of the arab coalition. not just for their military might and money because that's not happening. ainsley: you are saying a travel ban could insight more terror. >> no. i'm saying that what might happen is as a result of the ban we might alienate those