host: jim antle. nicknames aside, what do you think the white house is thinking about joe biden's victory? guest: i think what you just heard from the president shows the different strategies that they might look at, depending on who the nominee is. trump has actually had his case -- his success running against a centrist democrat and being able to use some of the centrist aspects of his democratic opponent's record against her. he was able to run against hillary voting for the iraq war. he was able to run against the 1994 crime bill. he was able to run against what were no clintons support for various trade deals. joe biden played a larger role in all of those things. he would be able to replace some of the same 2016 playbook that he used to some degree of success in the rust belt against a joe biden. bernie sanders would force him into a more conventional left right campaign. on sanders' focus radicalism. to begin to focus on calling sanders a socialist -- which i think you accept. calling him a com

host: jim antle here in the d.c.. what did you see in last night's results? >> originally this is what we always expected. joe biden to have a commanding lead. to be powered to a primary when with a strong african-american vote. in the recent weeks of looked like bernie sanders had been gaining. it looks like even tom steyer. as biden faded in the national polls and as biden had disappointing performances in the first three states. iowa and new hampshire were very disappointing to him. there is some questions of whether the south carolina firewall would hold for him. and it did hold. i think he can thank james clyburn for an endorsement. i think he had a lifelike debate performance in the final debate before the primary. he did fairly well on the stump in the final hours of campaigning. this is a pretty big win for him. if this had been a loss, we would be talking about him potentially dropping out. if this had been a narrow when we would be talking about, what is his pathway forward? because of this landslide win last night, we are talking about the potentia

it is jim antle, editor of the american conservative. in new york city it is elie mystal. look ahead to that large map of 14 states. what will you be looking for as the votes start coming in? -- get out to vote. in the words of joe biden, hope is [inaudible] with your help, we can win virginia and show the nation that joe biden has what it takes to become our democratic nominee. a wise man once said that it is not where the main stand in the moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands in times of challenges and controversy. joe biden's lyft bernie has proven to us that in the midst of adversity, he always comes out on top. as i take my seat, i want to remind everyone of the song we are all probably familiar with. the words say we are the champions my friend and we will keep fighting until the end. yes, we are. i don't think you heard me. !es, we are the champions yes, we are the champions! so let's go out and vote and show america that we are on the winning team. may god bless america and joe biden. thank you. [applause] ♪ ♪ up please give a warm welcome to ric