in arizona, where jim arroyo is vice president. was legitimate, he doesn't think anyone should have stormed the capitol. >> arroyo: i want to congratulate stewart rhodes and his ten militia buddies for winning first place in the ultimate ( bleep )contest, because that's what it was. that goes against everything we've ever taught, everything we believe in. it was pre-planned. it was pre-staged. ten guys go and do something stupid, and suddenly, we're the devil.l. ( prprotests )) >> alfonsi: in september, some arizona members showed up armed at a black lives matter protest in prescott. jim arroyo told us law enforcement coornatediwith him to help keep the peace. the local sheriff's department told us they didn't ask for their help. the critics of your presence there say, like, these are just a bunch of guys who are wannabees, and they can't wait to get dressed up and play the role. >> arroyo: our guys are very experienced. we have active-duty law enforcement in our organization that are helping to train us. we can blend in with our la

jim crow linkings on steroids. the old rules don't seem to quite cover the new politics but raimondo arroyo knows what's going on andat to see you, raimondo. >> great to see you, mark; that mark what's this all about. >> well, look, if you listen closely to joe biden -- and he's done this since the campaign, mark, with great success. he wraps everything in an emotional empathetic gauze and it makes it seem as if he cares much more than any other politician and certainly more than the opposition party. now, people may say wait a minute, you know, you got to get beyond the feelings. but, in many cases, joe biden never gets to specifics. this is policy-making via oprah. it's all self-feeling and emotion and how much he truly cares. and at the end of the day, mark, when you peel it back, the republicans respond with a blizzard of statistics. what they need to is find a way to respond in kind so that the population, so that the voters know they care, too. but they don't. and to give you a sense of what i mean, listen closely here. this is today's gun control pitch from joe biden. not only does kamala harris give away the