but i served with phenomenal personalities as petroika, jim baker, howard baker, ken, sam skinner,,jimaker again. i tried do a good job. i tell you, it is a challenging job. >> you at least sympathize. >> i have empathy. >> not sympathy. >> romney or perry? >> i'm straddling the fence. i will celebrate the republican nominee. i'm a republican and will they're all 35 or older and bu borr in the united states. [laaghter] >> who is qualified, that is -- >> not endorsing. >> you're a new englaader on the one hand -- [inaudible, multiple people speaking] >> rooted in massachusetts, proud resident of aggie land right now. love texas a&m university and the bush school. >> you won't pick? made by governor perry in the last presidential election which he was campaigning against mayor giulianii he was heard to say on this is pointed to as the root of the tension between the perry folks and the bush folks. would you comment about that? do you think bush was a fiscal conservative? >> i think he was a remarkably strong leader. he was pragmatic and learned a lot of pragmatism by being governor of te

establishment in full panic they're already moving in that direction you're going to see karl rove and maybe jim baker and possibly both former presidents bush warned the party that they could be jumping off a cliff there's not much they can do about it they have to influence primary voters but they're going to be a lot of concern there already is that he simply can't beat obama in a year when republicans ought to be able to easily beat obama for the reasons that judge judge just gave you know steve it seems to me and i you know and i'm going to stand out above the fray here because i probably won't vote but. you know newt has the advantage has the advantage because the field is so weak around him i mean looking at these other candidates it's really just it's more comical than anything else at least looking at it from the outside why do you think obama would feel confident if you think he's confident that he could beat newt gingrich if he's the nominee. well you know the entire angle of going after an incumbent is you look at incumbents record you know you hope to poke holes in that you hope to say th

. >> it goes back to what you said to jim baker on 9/11 saying that colby is responsible. >> people to this day think the united states has not recovered from my father spilling the beans because it's set up a culture of leaking and the congress, perhaps, being overly zealous in the -- in its attention to what the cia is up to. and robert gates as well. the cia does not like being on the front page. they should not be referred to. they are a secret organization. >> gates is not in this documentary. you said you did 85 interviews. 35 are in it. what are you doing with the rest of the material? >> it will come out as part of the expanded the the and a follow-up program that we may do. keep to it. -- keep tuned. gates is extraordinary because he has humility and a deep understanding and he also said he had the support of a very strong president during his contentious hearings, which was iran contra. whereas my father had no support from the president. >> when will the dvd be out? >> it will probably be out next summer. >> i want to show another clip. this was a surprise to me what i watch

. >> guest: jim baker was secretary at the time went to see him. other foreign visitors. this was two days -- two weeks the for the end. they saw gorbachev expounded on the possibilities of the soviet union attaining a role in the world. and were for deadpan face, maybe not literally but raising his eyes to heaven and saying this guy doesn't get it. >> host: you are describing a process where in addition to the yeltsin/gorbachev tension you have a group of what were really communist party functionaries leaping for power. of that bunch probably yeltsin was the only one who had democratic legitimacy. could we say that? >> guest: if you look at the leader of -- first leader of the independent ukraine, i saw a meeting of the founding conference of independent reform group which was set up in the ukraine three years before the end of the soviet union. i was at that meeting and he was observing from a balcony. he was a dark figure in charge of repression in the ukraine but he was still head of the communist party. when it happened in august of 1990 when he went along with it an

. >> this goes back to what you said about jim baker on 9/11 saying that crole by was responsible. >> people to this day think that the c.i.a. has never recovered from my father spilling the beans because it set up a culture of leaking of the congress being overly zealous in its attentions to what the c.i.a. is up to. robert gates i interviewed as well and the c.i.a. doesn't like being on the front page. they should be not in the newspaper at all. not referred to. they're a secret organization, remember. >> gates is not in this documentary though. remember? you said you did 85 interviews. 35 are in it. what are you doing with all the other material? >> all the other material, which is quite extraordinary is going to come out as part of the expanded dvd and other followup program that we may do. so keep tuned. but gates for instance is an extraordinary person because he has hue millty, he has deep understanding, and he also told me that he had the support of a very strong president during his contentious hearings, which were about iran contra where my father had little or no support fr

as jim baker likes to say, you know, in that wonderful texas accent, you know, i used to hear a lot about whether we should've gone to baghdad, i don't hear that much anymore after they did go to baghdad. so was this a long conflict with the '90s and the conservative energy on that? remember, the right wing was looking for an enemy in the 1990s. it was china for a while. it was ultimately for the iraq study group. there was a bipartisan consensus we should not forget about the need to take action. >> and we have to say in 1998, the most -- the harshest assessments against saddam hussein came from the likes of bill clinton, al gore, hillary clinton, ted kennedy. i could name you a list of -- >> totally. >> carl levin, the same people three years later going, saddam hussein, why, i would invite him to thanksgiving if it come. you look at the quotes in 1998. i'm always saying this to put this in historical perspective. you look at the quotes that you can google and find in about three seconds, it is breathtaking to see what -- not only democratic politicians who would change their tone three

this friday we will talk with history professor jim baker, to see what they learn from the series. to retrieve the episodes, visit c-span.org/thecontenders. >> the house debate this two hours. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. camp: there are four important facts everyone should know about the middle class tax relief and job creation act. first, it will strengthen our economy and help get americans back to work by lowering the tax burden for middle-class families and job providers alike. second, it prevents massive cuts to doctors working in the medicare program to protect america's seniors and those with disabilities, providing more stability in the doctor payment schedule than there has been in a decade. third, it adopts a number of the president's legislative initiatives which represents the bipartisan cooperation americans are demanding. and fourth, it's fully paid for with spending cuts, not job-killing tax hikes. the c.b.o. tables show the bill is fully offset and saves about $1 billion. when you add in the floorns provisions, the savings are -- flood

american people are able to separate out and even separate it out from the charltons, the jim and tammy bakerste out the politicians who want to vote on the fact that we are, in terms of our essential character, ainsley, a deeply religious and faithful people. >> i love that, juan, thank you so much. >> i remember of saying, he doesn't need them to do his job and needs ordinary people. >> right. >> willing to do extraordinary things. juan, that was very good. >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas, juan. >> you, too. >> did you know that the spirit of clause originated in a real saint? the history of saint nick ras, right after the break. ♪ ft, shouldn't it be given in an amazing way? ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is here, but only for a limited time. see your lexus dealer. >> merry christmas everybody. time for us news by the numbers, christmas style. 28 billion the total money spent on gift cards this holiday season alone and in case you're wondering, that's an average of 155 bucks per person, wowsa. and 80,000 how many santa claus norad trackers took from anxious kids across

late ray baker, mayor of fort smith, who was in the early beginnings of the development of this museum project and current mayor sandy sanders. i want to thank the c.e.o. of the marshals museum jim dunn and jim johnson and soon they'll be conducting nationwide campaigns to see that the funding is possible to construct this museum. mr. speaker, i'm proud to have sponsored this legislation. i also want to thank my friend john boozman, my predecessor, who began this process in a previous congress and will work hard in the senate to champion this legislation through the other body but i'm proud to have been the sponsor, but more than anything i'm proud of what the u.s. marshal service means to our country and i am anxiously looking forward to the construction of this museum so that we can showcase the museum, the institution of the marshal service, and the great city of fort smith and the third district of arkansas to all who will come and see. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. meeks: i yield myself such time as i may consume. mr. speaker, i'm a proud -- i am proud to support h.r. 886, the united sta