in that sense is barack obama does not have a jim baker. he does not have a leon panetta. he does not have an individual with the understanding of government, how it works, to help with what they call policy execution. he has people there who love him, honor him, and obey him. they do not understand how you make the machinery work. of whether the president could come out of this thing and do something on immigration, the problem turns on his credibility. next thing thehe president has to say about anything? immigration. he will have to make assertions, are those assertions going to hold up? the same way you are asking about affordable care act. what comes next with this president? that is his problem. that is the confidence question that will threaten his entire agenda. >> i think you're right. what happened with obamacare highlighted the underlying flaws of it ministration. websiteidence issue, a you would imagine you get a bunch of 12 year olds and they can make a website for a lot less than $600 million and the air against that you can keep your plan if we are experts i

on in frequent occasions that on infrequent occasions -- jim baker -- on infrequent indications -- john baker would be the one who did it. this is a new technique, if something new or unusual about this takes it outside of the ordinary -- really quite straightforward and typical, routine fisa application. the government would do that, they would do it for good reasons because they knew we had entrusted integrity to function in -- to function effectively and have the confidence to know what they are saying to us. that requirement became codified in the first draft of 2008 with the foreign intelligence surveillance court whirls. -- surveillance court rules. it seems to me to be a good trigger point for a judge to exercise his or her discretion or perhaps for congress to mandate when that notice is given, but then the court calls upon what i would envision to be a very small codger i of three cleared attorneys, probably in the washington area, probably with some sort of experience in this area. they wouldn't have to spend a lot of time learning how the wheel turns, as it were. an individua

on in frequent occasion i felt as a sitting judge when jim baker and he was the one who would do it, would come to me and say judge you had better pay special attention to paragraph 62 to 73 because it's a new technique and their something new and unusual that takes it outside of the ordinary quite straightforward and typical routine fisa application. the government would do that and do it for good reason because they knew we had to trust its integrity in order for us to function effectively and have confidence in what you are saying to us. that requirement became codified in the first draft in 2008 of the foreign intelligence surveillance court rules and the government is required by those rules in that sort of situation to call that circumstance to the court's attention. i'm sure it does so. that seems to me to be a good trigger point for a judge either to have her discretion or perhaps for congress to mandate a rule 11 notice given and then the court calls upon what it of what i would envision to be a small cadre of precleared attorneys, probably within the washington area, probab

. >> yes, like jim baker with whom i worked with for five or six years, i can't recall if you left before i did or not, jim, but amen. i'm pleased to be here and be part of the conversation. what comes about that you may be aware that as a result of a op-ed that i happened to publish on the 23rd of january, i think it was, maybe what i consider to be a modest proposal which i'll repeat this afternoon to improve the -- both, i think the processing of certain applications before the court, and i hope as well, perhaps, enhance public confidence in some of the decisions that the court reaches. that proposal's simply that congress gives the fisa court judges either discretion or perhaps direct them to ob tape the services of outside independent counsel when the court is presented with something that's new and novel, and this would happen, very rare occasions. what i want to emphasize is how infrequently this kind of representation would be necessary. the vast majority of fisa applications are simply fact based. there's a low probable cause standard, affiliated working for a foreign based gover

. >> jim baker, you said in your opening remarks -- i hope i'm not misquoting you, but i think you said something along the lines of, we can go on as far as we can go with the five that fisa court.h the five them would you clarify what you are referring to? >> it was the outer limits of what we could reasonably expect the court to do. we should not think of them as some sort of super inspector general that is conducting free ranging oversight of the activities of the intelligence committee. constitutional issues with that. trained to do not that in that way. they play a different role. i am trying to set expectations. i'm urging you to set expectations in a realistic way with the american people about what you reasonably expect the court to do. the same with congress. the -- what can the members of congress and their staffs reasonably excited to do with the oversight of these agencies? it is primarily my view that the president of the united states can take effective management and control and oversight of the intelligence community. to theyou go back original point, look at structure 7

that onequent occasions infrequent occasions -- jim baker -- on infrequent indications -- john baker would be the one who did it. technique, if something new or unusual about this takes it outside of the ordinary -- really quite straightforward and typical, routine fisa application. the government would do that, they would do it for good reasons because they knew we had entrusted integrity to function in -- to function effectively and have the confidence to know what they are saying to us. that requirement became codified in the first draft of 2008 with the foreign intelligence surveillance court whirls. -- surveillance court rules. it seems to me to be a good trigger point for a judge to exercise his or her discretion or perhaps for congress to mandate when that notice is given, but then the court calls upon what i would envision to be three small codger i of cleared attorneys, probably in the washington area, probably with some sort of experience in this area. they wouldn't have to spend a lot of time learning how the wheel turns, as it were. in to ourual came present. -- to repres

ronald regan brought in californians and also asked jim baker to be chief of staff.ot a lot of heavyweightes who have independent standing around the president who can give him advice, you know, shoulder to shoulder. very hard-hitting advice and disagree with him. and he does not have in particular, heavyweights around him to execute policy. washington post has an extremely interesting story about the struggle inside the white house on who would run health care once it is passed. who will have the biggest start-up in american history. who is the captain of that ship. heavy weights in that administration urge someone to have a start-up experience. technical experience. experience and new technologies. insurance business. president went with someone who could do that. he is an individual that does not have that kind of world class experience. and what followed is we didn't get very good execution of one of the biggest and the most important in american history and signature issue for this president. >> listen, i want to ask you professor, before i came here to cnn, i w

i think we will hear the same we did back in some else whether it's jim baker or alan greenspan are probablyone of the chairs of the finest meet with ways and means committee. the other people who really know where the deals are. they are the ones who know the long history of the fights over entitlement reform and corporate tax levels, a reformed or possibly. all the rich areas the president has been alluding to. republicans say they want. they want lower corporate taxes so they can compete better and the president said he was thinking about that yesterday and also it will long-term entitlement reform. so that's where we're talking but the question is how do they regulate, how did he make that happen between now and next thursday? how do you do all that? this stuff takes a long time but the question is was a good marker to put down so each side will toast the other they're going to do that? what has been have to talk to the tea party about, the 30 or 40 guys out there and convince them he is series. he probably won't get their votes but he has to get half the votes in the caucus. he's got to

the president doesn't want to have a real chief of staff like jim baker. he doesn't want to give authority to people, and i think it's a real problem. >> you can have a crisis of responsibility where people don't think you're telling the truth, ask you can have a crisis where people don't think you can do anything. this is going to make it worse for the democrats. >> did you buy nancy pelosi's argument that she's going to defend it? >> as a republican, i had a good morning because it's fun to watch nancy retreat faster than a french general. it was something. so i think they've got a problem. what interests me is what's going to happen next because politics are dynamic. what is the president going to do? huge opportunity here, but if we sit around and high-five each other about being right about this, that's a mistake. it's time for us to come up with our own policies so we can move forward, which we need to do all the way through 2016. >> i thought it was interesting that nancy pelosi said there was nothing in the law that people can keep their policies.

it's the sort of jim baker thing where you get a lot of sympathy. it's now an addiction.it. he comes out clean slate. >> let me read this to you and get your reaction. this is his statement today. we all heard the press conference last night. today i checked myself into a facility to seek treatment and counseling. it is my hope through this process i will come out a better man, i will work hard to gain back the trust and support of my constituents, friends and most importantly, my family. how is he handling this post, you know, not pre-purchasing cocaine, but in the last 48 hours? how has he handled this in washington crisis mode? >> i don't know. to me, it's entirely bizarre that he's still a congressman. is there no shame anymore? >> no. there isn't. >> he's captured by a d.e.a. agent. the hypocrisy thing is a little overblown. there is an idealogical point, you know, for his position on that issue. it's a bit of a red herring for nancy pelosi to say he's a hypocrite for this. but thinking about he's got a young kid, got young kids, got a wife, and he's supposed to be u

we had good relations with the reagan people like jim baker and kenny duberstein and we would work deals on the site. there is a homeless guy i was on a hunger strike as they're going to name a nuclear submarine a warship to be. it is very cat that, and he said, why are becoming a warship the body of christ? which seem to be a reasonable thing. so i said, when it should call mike deaver because he's playing the piano. maybe we can kind of deal with him. so i call them up and he called me back. i said this guy is on its 56th day of his hunger strike. he saw me eating bread has he doesn't want to be called the corpus christi. he was definitely drinking in those days. seems like a reason to kill yourself. [laughter] but that monday, he went to reagan and the secretary of defense change the ships named to the city of corpus christi, which is what he was supposed to be anyway. good helmet started eating again. later on he would recognize these incredible rallies against the white house that had nothing to do with except you wouldn't believe what they're doing now. he would organize an incredi

jim baker recalls president bush saying that. so yes, there are conflicting times. i remember the sinnott trebek, ava gardner talks about a huge fight that she had with sinatra after all the furniture out in palm springs when she turned out wanda turner had a mayor. frank sinnott shirt had denied both of them. he got to put all that in there. >> host: were you fighting for your life and times of frank sinnott shirt? we threatened? castro not threatened, but i was very, very careful. i felt secured when i heard. we took all the liquor bottles and threw them off the table. and he said if anything happens to that, he said i'll be the first one blamed. i felt kind of secure then. i was really threatened when i when i wrote to book. i had an effect on men cited the publisher at this time i had a book party on publication, which was any real of 1991 press god, i didn't know this until later, but the publisher had hired by the cards for me. and i realized why. you know, it is one thing to write about a mob connected singer. it is quite another to write about a powerful pol

jim baker recalls president bush saying that. so yes, there are conflicting times. i remember the sinnott trebek, ava gardner talks about a huge fight that she had with sinatra after all the furniture out in palm springs when she turned out wanda turner had a mayor. frank sinnott shirt had denied both of them. he got to put all that in there. >> host: were you fighting for your life and times of frank sinnott shirt? we threatened? castro not threatened, but i was very, very careful. i felt secured when i heard. we took all the liquor bottles and threw them off the table. and he said if anything happens to that, he said i'll be the first one blamed. i felt kind of secure then. i was really threatened when i when i wrote to book. i had an effect on men cited the publisher at this time i had a book party on publication, which was any real of 1991 press god, i didn't know this until later, but the publisher had hired by the cards for me. and i realized why. you know, it is one thing to write about a mob connected singer. it is quite another to write about a powerful pol

we had good relations with the reagan people like jim baker and kenny duberstein and we would work dealsas on a hunger strike as they're going to name a nuclear submarine a warship to be. it is very cat that, and he said, why are becoming a warship the body of christ? which seem to be a reasonable thing. so i said, when it should call mike deaver because he's playing the piano. maybe we can kind of deal with him. so i call them up and he called me back. i said this guy is on its 56th day of his hunger strike. he saw me eating bread has he doesn't want to be called the corpus christi. he was definitely drinking in those days. seems like a reason to kill yourself. [laughter] but that monday, he went to reagan and the secretary of defense change the ships named to the city of corpus christi, which is what he was supposed to be anyway. good helmet started eating again. later on he would recognize these incredible rallies against the white house that had nothing to do with except you wouldn't believe what they're doing now. he would organize an incredible rallies. the steelworkers at 4:00 in

baker, thank you very much. with us perhaps the leading researcher and conspiracy theorist on the assassination of jim cantore.oin us us from virginia. let's put evidence aside, i want you to tell me right now, who killed the president in your opinion after everything that you have researched, everything that you have been to over these long decades, who do you think was responsible for the death of the young and gracious 35th president of the united states, mark lane? >> start out by saying there is no evidence against oswald. i know people talk about his motivation. you're a lawyer and so am i, we know that motive is not an element of the crime. the question is what is the evidence. let's look at the evidence. there is no evidence that oswald was involved. >> mark, i want you to tell me who did it if oswald did ot? >> good question, the answer, i believe is the central intelligence agency. i don't know the names of the guys, but the central intelligence agency. we have the cia -- this is crucial. plotting in september of 1963 to leave a trail behind which would involve oswald and the assassination. they said

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