jim baker -- jim baker.jim baker was masterfully able to go out and deal with the concerns that people had on these issues and come back with recommended proposals on how we ought to deal with them. and maybe we had to change the u.n. resolution a little bit this way or that way in order to let assad feel comfortable or gorbachev feel comfortable or king saad feel comfortable. all of those things were part of that recognizing that the other person at the other end of the phone call or across the table has a perspective that has to be taken into account. it's how he understood that he couldn't crow when the berlin wall came down, because he was sitting in gorbachev's seat for a moment trying to think about what the concern was. but that's the art form. and i hope you'll see it. i've tried to give a very intimate set of descriptions of those interactions in the book, and a lot of the give and take that takes place in a real white house n a real west wing compared to what you may have seen on television. sir. >

when he asked they responded the other aspect was jim baker masterfully able to go out and deal with the concerns that people had and come back with recommended proposals on how we ought to deal with them. maybe wemaybe we had to change the un resolution this way or that way in order to let us feel comfortable or gorbachev working five. all of those things were part of that recognizing the other person at the other end of the phone call or across the table has a perspective that has to be taken into account how he understood that he could not grow when the berlin wall came down because he was sitting in gorbachev c for a moment trying to think about what the concern was. that is the art form. i hope you see it. i have triedi have tried to give an intimate set of descriptions of those interactions. a lot of the give-and-take that takes place in a real white house real west wing as compared to what you may have seen on television. >> i remember the reelection campaign. i also remember thinking strongly as it progressed that president bush was letting it slip out of his hands because of

the other asset was jim baker.im baker was masterfully able to go out and deal with the concerns people had on these issues and come back with recommended proposals on how we have to deal with them to me that we had to change the u.n. resolution a little bit this way or that way in order to lead assad if you're comfortable or gorbachev feel comfortable. all of that were recognized in the other person at the other end of the phone call or across the table had the perspective that has to be taken into account. it's how he understood he couldn't crow when the berlin wall came down because he was in the gorbachev seat for a moment trying to think about what the concern was. but that is the art form and i hope we'll see a n. i tried to get an intimate set of descriptions of those interactions in the book and the give-and-take that takes place in a real white house in a real west wing compared to what you may seen on television. >> i remember the campaign and i also remember thinking strongly as it progressed that presid

a lot of americans you respect whether jim baker, h henry kissinger or george schultz have raised real caution about the agreement they understand, and one question we'll talk about first sanctions, then inspections and other issues. but let's talk about sanctions in terms of this agreement. the united states has said that the sanctions should be phased out on the basis of good conduct and respect for the agreement. supreme leader and you -- certainly the supreme leader said this publicly -- we have to have the elimination of all sanctions at the this final agreement is signed, all sanctions gone. >> we are talking about economic and financial sanctions and what we agreed the parameters of the agreement that we reached in lausanne are very clear that once we start implementing the first steps and the first steps are very clear but the number of centrifuges in fordow the reactors, all sanctions, all economic and financial sanctions must go. that is all the u.n. sanctions -- >> rose: the u.s. has phase and you say based on good conduct and you say at the beginning. the supreme leader say

you know, jim baker, myself, others, were accused of being the pragmatists in the white house, those who would not let reagan be reagan. the reality is, ronald reagan was the ultimate pragmatist. tip o'neill used to say, i don't like compromising with reagan because every time i do, reagan gets 80% of what he wants, and reagan would say to jim and howard myself and others, i will take 80% every time. i come back the next year and there's the additional 20%. that is what governing is all about. they can go get 70%, but if you are a good salesman like clinton was or reagan was, you make it look like 80% and then you still come back for the additional 20%. an instructive story for you. at governors island in the new york harbor there is a famous picture now of reagan, gorbachev, and george herbert walker bush with the statue of liberty behind them. this was one of the only times they let me play advance man. i knew the photo i wanted. because i grew up in new york city. gorbachev came to the u.n. to speak and we met with him and we brought with us president-elect george herbert walker b

what i came to us a sort of version for 2015 of what jim baker and lee hamilton wrote in 2006 looking at essentially the same problem. the problem hasn't changed from back then, nine years ago. bottom up or inside out partners which is to find a way and find a formula for decentralized, maybe federal iraq to keep supporters the country and the country as a whole but lets individual groups really have the kind of local autonomy so sunnis who are fighting to get isis out of anbar have some confidence that when the isis is out they won't be given instructions from hydra alarm rate or the shia emissions -- delicious -- militias. that is a part of that strategy. it's bottom-up and inside out and there's an outside in part that involves regional allies and for each of these conflicts iraq, syria all the other ones libya it is going to take a commitment by the united states, russia, saudi arabia, iran and somehow there's going to have to be a formula and we are going to have to live in a world where those powers can sit around the table and come up with agreements that they are prepared to b

of them. 300 retired generals, admirals, national security officials, famous diplomats, including jim baker and brent scowcroft and marine general zinni and the head of the former national security agency, bill odom, spoke out and wrote against invading iraq before it happened in march 2003. a majority of the people in this country think that there's something inflated about our military budget. [scattered laughter] all right. well, they've read the pentagon audits and the gao reports and the "60 minute" exposes and so on. it's horrendously inflated. waste, fraud, abuse is only part of it. we're still building cost-overrun military weapons systems designed for the soviet union era of hostility. like, the f-22 should never be built. you could put it on this stage. that's how much $200 million of electronics cost, profit in overruns. why are we building more submarines, nuclear submarines? one trident submarine--nuclear warheads can destroy 200 cities. that's before it reloads. why are we building more aircraft carriers, $15 billion a carrier? we got 13. the next country to challenge us is it

and what i came to was a sort of, you know, version for 2015 of what jim baker and lee hamilton wroten 2006. looking at essentially the same problem. the problem hasn't really changed from what they were writing back then nine years ago. there's a bottom-up or inside inside-out part of this which is to find a formula for a generally federal decentralized iraq that keeps the borders of the country as a whole but lets the individual groups really have a kind of local autonomy. sunnis fighting to get isis out of anbar have some confidence that when isis is out they won't be given instructions from the shia militias or anybody else. that it will be their part of iraq as much as kurds feel irbil is their part of iraq. that's part of that strategy. it's bottom-up inside-out. and there's an outside-in part that involves the regional allies. and for each of these conflicts iraq syria, all the other ones, libya, it is going to take a commitment by the united states russia saudi arabia, iran, i mean somehow there's going to have to be a formula, we're going to have to live in a world where thos

in 2015 of what jim baker and lee hamilton wrote looking at essentially the same problem. the problem hasn't really changed from what they were writing back then, nine years ago. there's a bottom up or inside-out part of this which is to find a way, find a formula for genuinely federal, decentralized, maybe confederal iraq that keeps the borders as a whole but lets the individual groups really have a local autonomy. sunnis fighting to get isis out of anbar have some confidence when isis is out they won't be given instructions from the shia militias or anybody else. it would be their part of iraq, much as kurds feel erbil is their part of iraq. it's bottom up inside-out. and then there's the part that involves the regional allies. for iraq, syria libya it is going to take a commitment by the united states, russia, saudi arabia iran. somehow there's going to have to be a formula where those powers can sit around a table and come up with agreements that they are prepared to back up. i think those are the two elements of how you would make this work in iraq. i think it's going

secretary of state has been overseas on a single mission, but not compared to george schultz, jim bakertraveled all the time for 30 days at a tiemme. that would be ricocheting around the world on different projects. this would be sitting in foorn capital for 15 days it's pretty extraordinary and not devoting real attention to the rest of the world. it's a big commitment. >> andrea mitchell in vienna keeping a close eye on the negotiations. that story playing out this weekend. we'll keep a close eye on it as well. >>> joining me is retired four-star u.s. general wesley clark, former nato supreme allied commander and one-time presidential candidate. welcome. >> thank you. >> andrea's report right there, this issue that emerged in the last few days about weapons sanctions, not nuclear sanctions, weapons sanctions on a shipment of arms into and out of iran. iran wants those sanctions eased as part of this. they say the sanctions are in place because of the nuclear program. if we cut a deal in the nuclear program, those sanctions should no longer be in place. the obama administration saying

jim: yes it was. can't wait to see what happens here tomorrow. look forward to having you with us at 3:00 eastern time. for ian baker-finch frank nobilo gary gary, peter kostis, jim nantz saying so long from the rbc canadian open. see you tomorrow. see if history will be made. >> ♪ >> from the cbs broadcast center in philadelphia, this is cbs3 "eyewitness news"." >> right now at 6 o'clock, we are heating up. a live look now at ocean city where plenty of folks are out and about enjoying this lovely day. but higher temperatures and humidity are just around the corner. good evening everyone, i'm natasha brown. thank you so much for joining us. it looks like another heat wave maybe even storms could be in our future as well. let's get you right over to meteorologist justin drabick in our weather center. he's got details. >> natasha, looks like our nice stretch of weather is coming to an end. we'll start to feel the difference for the second half of the weekend. 90 degrees at philadelphia international airport. normal is 87. record high though 96 set back in 1999. so, yes, it was hot but the humidity levels still on the

jim: yes it was. can't wait to see what happens here tomorrow. look forward to having you with us at 3:00 eastern time. for ian baker-finch frank nobilo gary gary, petoser ktis, jim nantz saying so long from the rbc canadian open. see you tomorrow. see if history will be made. ♪ ♪ ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh ♪ ♪ hush my darling... ♪ ♪ don't fear my darling... ♪ ♪ the lion sleeps tonight. ♪ [snoring.] ♪ hush my darling... ♪ [snoring.] ♪ don't fear my darling... ♪ ♪ the lion sleeps tonight. ♪ [snoring.] take the roar out of snore. yet another innovation only at a sleep number store. . >>> a weekend gun show in northern virginia, where there is no way to purchase a weapon. >>> hello, everybody. i'm bruce johnson. debra is off tonight. thank you for joining us. just hours before a gunman opened fire in louisiana in a movie theater, the president told the bbc reporter the area of gun safety laws is where he's been the most frustrated. the president's remarks, sparking a gun control debate at this weekend's gun show in chantilly, virginia. stephanie ramirez tells us this year's attitudes may be changing. >> reporter: as you can

baker-finch the chance to call it. ian: yes and it's a very good hole jim, the 17th, playing 616 yards so it will be a three-shotter. rain drizzling down making ate little uncomfortable. -- it a little uncomfortable and water all the way up the right-hand side and some pretty juicy, thick rough there as well so most players taking it up the left side, laying up with their second leaving a wedge or 9-iron for their third. bigger hitters have been able to get up, like danny lee did, just short of the green in two. once again sticking that finish. but he's pulled it left. way left off the cart path. still going. david: yeah, and that can make the lay-up shot really difficult depending on where he is. a, the rough and then these trees. ian: i think you have enough of a bounce through those cart paths. if it got a cup of kicks it will be far enough down that he'll have a little bit of a gap there, looks like. not too bad. david hearn now. peter: setting up for a slight cut. making that type of swing. ian: yes he did. and left as well. that one is in trouble, peter. that's under the big trees. he'll have trees in his way