and of the $1.5 billion grossed annually, just three of them, pat robertson, jimmy swaggart and jim bakern $500 pill on. -- million. >> they need to stay on the air. a prime network anybody would be proud to own. >> i believe they want every one of these bills paid in full, and ptl can live if we get paid. >> they would pay their bills if everyone would do something. >> jim baker is the one that truly gets it. he understands that preaching on television is not just about standing up and giving a fire and brimstone speech, he understands that in the age of te teleevangelism is showing your family and he's a brilliant entrepreneur. >> their appeal is powerful. last year a million people responded to the bakeres' constant request for money. >> that's $90,000. >> praise god. >> the bakers have been criticized for their own lavish lifestyle. >> just because i'm a christian doesn't mean i don't love nice things. i love nice things, and jim and i work very, very hard for nice things. >> they say the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. >> toys like a stream of luxury

history will prove the bakers were honest people. >> we interrupt for an nbc special report. >> jim bakerked head of ptl ministry was found guilty on 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy. >> baker was selling partnerships at heritage usa, even though he knew they were oversold. for example, heritage grand hotel could accommodate only 25,000 partnerships, but 65,000 were sold. for the lower priced bunk house partnerships, about 7,000 were sold for a building that had 8 rooms. >> they sent $15 a month for 15 years. thought by giving to them god would ease her pain and that of her ailing husband. >> i have been giving to them when i don't have enough to live on. >> baker could be sentenced to 120 years in prison, fined over $5 million. >> i would say i feel sad but encouraged in god. >> tammy baker said she could best describe her feelings in song. >> on christ the solid rock i stand. all other ground is sinking sand. it is not over 'til it's over. i have a blog called "daddy doing work", it's funny that i've been in the news for being a dad. windows 10 is great because i need to keep organized

baker gets it. he understands that in the age of television the johnny carson approach to television. he's a brilliant entrepreneur and he's a brilliant salesman of himself. >> and now here are jim! >> their appeal is powerful. last year a million people responded to the bakers' constant request for money. >> how many do you have right now? >> just about 31. >> 7,000 clubs. >> that's $90,000. >> praise god. >> the bakers have been criticized for their own lavish lifestyle. >> just because i'm a christian doesn't mean i don't like nice things, either. i love nice things, and jim and i work very ver, very hard for things. >> toys like a string of homes from los angeles to south carolina. >> they think that by them living well, by them having rolls royces, people will think, god is shining their countenance upon them and thus upon us. ptl becomes the vehicle for their media empire, for their theme parks. >> if we are to be fissures of men, that's what the bible says, we are fissures of men, we used some pretty powerful bait. >> you can be a member of ptl with a one-time gift of $1,000. four days and three nights for the rest of your life. >> that ends up leading them to breaking th

jim baker, one of the smartest moves he could've made was making jim baker the chief of staff.ie: and one of the smartest things jim baker did was to not get george bush to continue. you made that documentary of jim baker. whenever people write secretary of state, they always think of kissinger, but they always come to jim baker as someone that when they look at him, they appreciate more the style he had. and it had to do with his relationship with the president. tom: i have gotten to be so fond of him personally. but i really believe he is one of our great living statesman. that is not just me saying that, it is wherever i go. and even democrats. he has become a great statesman, he has conducted himself very well. tough, smart, and it was not about him. he knew how to serve reagan by doing the things he needed to do. then he served his friend george bush. charlie: it is great to have you here. at this table. to see you my friend. tom: charlie, we have known each other a long time. you have been very generous to me and i am grateful for that. charlie: the book is, "a lucky life

one of the smartest things jim baker did was to get george bush not to continue, otherwise he wouldnever have been vice president and therefore probably unlikely to have been president. >> that's right. >> rose: and you made that documentary with jim baker. >> yeah. >> rose: when everybody people like secretaries of state they think of kissinger, achinson, but they always come to jim baker as someone, when they look at him, they appreciate more its style he had. and it had to do with his relationship with the president. >> yeah. i have-- i've gotten to be so fond of him personally. but i really believe he is one of our great living statesmen. and that is just me saying that, it is wherever i go, democrats, rahm emanuel would say what is jim baker is saying, i want to know what baker is up to here. he has become a great statesmen, conducted himself extremely well. he was tough, smart, and it was not about him, you know, he knew how to serve reagan. by doing the things that he needed to do and he served his friend george bush 41. >> it's great to have you here. >> it's great to you ha

a lot of people thought maybe there was distance created between jim baker and the bush family because policy that george w. bush pursued. james baker wasn't as eager for affirmation after the 9/11 attacks. baker was on capitol hill today and it came up marco rubio actually asked a question at this hearing, james baker was testifying on foreign policy. rubio asked about one of trump's proposals, which is basically, do we really need nato anymore. that's something trump has been introducing into this campaign. baker at this hearing said that would be a disaster. in terms of that one policy item, jim baker separating himself from trump. but, no, the fact that he's at this meeting, that's our reporting, i don't know what was said there, i don't know what it means. the fact that he's there alone, very interesting. >> oh, to be a fly on the wall at that meeting. we learned that lindsay graham had a phone call with donald trump today. >> he talked about 15 minutes on the phone with donald trump saying it was a cordial conversation. saying he talked about his assessment with the situation wit

. >> jim baker, using the term for the republican establishment forever. >> yeah. >> and if sometimes gets really stretched out of shape because we don't know what it means. who is one human being hon planet earth who most embodies the republican establishment, james baker would be that person, so what was he doing in that room? >> let's pick through a couple of things. first of all, in the last three minutes since we've been talking we received word from secretary barrack's office officially now confirming his meeting with donald trump today saying that that meeting was requested by the trump campaign adding that baker has had conversations with other gop candidates at their request and that baker would have no further comment at this time. so that's sort of the news in just the last five minutes. you can say hot off of the presses of the iphone. when you talk about barrack being part of the establishment, look at his resume. former chief of staff for president reagan, bush 41. obviously the secretary of state, head of the treasury department as well. he has a long history and a long

you made that documentary of jim baker.people write secretary of state, they always think of kissinger, but they always come to jim baker. when look at him they appreciate more the style he had. and it had to do with his relationship with the president. found have got to be so -- fond of him personally. but i really believe he is one of our great living statesman. that is not just me saying that, is wherever i go. i want to know what baker is up to. he has become a great statesman, he has conducted himself very well. tough, smart, and it was not about him. reagan byw to serve doing the things he needed to do. that he served george bush 41. charlie: it is great to have you here. it is great to have you here at this table. to see you my friend. tom: charlie, we have known each other a long time. you have been very generous to me and i am grateful for that. is, "a luckybook life interrupted," now in paperback. thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪ al: i am al hunt. mark: and i am mark heilemann. with all due respect t

. >> he also had a meeting with jim baker last week that seemed to be maybe a quicker thing and less planned preamble to it than the kissinger thing. what do you expect when he sits down with a former secretary of state like henry kissinger? >> nothing. this is part of the ritual of becoming the nominee. he is apparently going to be the nominee. he had to go see the elders of the party. the bush folks have said they don't want much to do with him, which i would assume includes jim baker at some point. this is not a knock on the donald trump. he has incredible instincts about where his crowds are. i think this is going to be a very frustrating job for tony. it would be targeting resources. if we can dump radio advertising there, tv advertising there, we might be able to go up four points and take that. >> you need a polster to tell you which media markets are the most accepting of your message. so, that is a resource allocation. he's not going to treat this as an unserious moment. and i have absolutely no doubt that kissinger is going to want to impress on donald trump just how wrong

jim baker as his chief of staff, a really skilled, shrewd political insider, ed meese, a counselor tochael deaver in charge of the media operations. they ran the white house. >> the assassination attempt and aftermath elevated ronald reagan's popularity to a new high. the latest nbc news/associated press poll shows his job rating jumped ten points. >> reagan understood that he was getting this sort of sympathy reaction. everybody was rooting for him all of a sudden because they didn't want him to die. they didn't want to lose a president. so without missing a step, he goes right into what the message is. we've got to get this tax and spending bill passed and we've got to do it now. >> mr. speaker, the president of the united states. >> it was just like the movies. reagan was a true american hero. >> the president looking very jovial, very healthy. >> i was seated in the well of the house there when he was addressing congress. it was magic. everybody was so grateful that his life had been spared. it was a stirring moment. >> if he wants them to stop, they're not going to stop for a whi

he's talking about john corning posing for pictures. >> and when jim baker goes there.like a bulldog puppy comes into the house. doesn't pee on the carpet but is that puppy housebroken. they don't know whether trump has been housebroken. they need to see if he can behave in polite company. they don't know it. they don't want him as a bull in their china shop. they're looking to see whether today's listening session was the first of several and whether he seems -- >> they don't want him out there now three days from now, a week from now, giving nicknames to some of them. >> they don't trust him. they're right not to trust him because he is a bully and a demagogue. they know that. the thing they will wait on a little bit and it's the only card that paul ryan has. why should he endorse him now. it gives him leverage. >> how much leverage does he have. if he becomes an island. if the rest of the party says let's get going. if there's polls that come out, if we see more of these that show a competitive race, there will be a real energy focus on hillary clinton. >> that's rig

. >> jim baker is the one who truly gets it.nds preaching on television is not just about standing up and getting a speech. he understands the age of television, being more intimate and showing your lifestyle and your beautiful family is central of bringing people in. he's a brilliant entrepreneur. >> here are jim and tammie. >> their field is powerful, last year a million people responded to the baker's constant request for money. >> how many do you have right n now? >> just about 30,000 silver clubs. >> i love nice things and jim and i work very, very hard for nice things. the only difference between men and boys are the prices of cars. >> they create the gospel of prosperity which they think by them living well everyone thinking god is shining and is counting on them and us. >> it became the vehicle for their media umpire and theme park. >> if we are going to be vicious of men, we have have been using pretty lousy baits. we just built better bait to replace people. >> you can have a one time gift for $1,000. four days and thr

jim baker had it. charlie rose: lyndon johnson have it.id brooks: passing a complicated piece of legislation with a bipartisan majority is a skill of execution. if you want example see spielberg's movie about lincoln movie it's that political deafness. that's the nobility of politics. we can politicians for being dealmakers but there is a craft and a nobility to it. everyone is jumping all over the elites with people i know in government the civil servants they are in for the right reasons. is not glamorous. charlie rose: there's a culture that those accused of incorrect thoughts face ruinous consequences. david brooks: have seen people whose lives have been ruined by a small mistake or no mistake. there's a lot of chris's mother. if you don't it affect you goes away. rose: if you can't do that you'll be terminally unhappy. david brooks: isolation is a very good strategy. charlie rose: you said middle ages being redefined. hillary clinton 68 years old. is 69 years old. bernie sanders's 74. they are running for the first term. charlie rose:

in a sign he's trying to bring the establishment together, you know that jim baker was meeting with trump today. his office confirming the news that nbc broke. baker was there at the request of trump and held meetings with other gop candidates and we're told will have no further comment on it. >> that's smart meeting for trump. >> here is speaker ryan today on that topic. >> there are policy disputes that we will have. there's no two ways about it. plenty of republicans disagree with one another on policy disputes. >> you asked priebus about it today. let's watch that interview point. >> i'm not going to get into the specifics. it's a private meeting, private conversation but everything you're hearing about is accurate. it was cooperative. it was great. >> did the speaker explain to donald trump how difficult it is to reduce the debt and there's big elements like entitlements that you have to deal with. was it that bad? >> he did bring charts and anybody who has covered paul ryan on capitol hill, one of our producers will tell you this. paul ryan likes his charts. they were about entitlem

charlie: that his wife jim baker told george bush to get out. >> i think the intensity of it is nothinglose to what it was between her and barack obama. i don't think it is close. think putting things back together between them and their campaigns and most of his supporters in philadelphia will be substantially easier than it was. charlie: why has she not picked up the phone to call him and say, not you have to get out of the race, but to try to appeal to him. mark: the candidates locked in combat do not talk to each other that way. particular with somebody told to get out of the race in 2008. she thought it was her right to fight. what mark, about said, it is true that i think the level of intensity and bitterness is less than 2008. here is the truth come on the worst day in 2008, barack obama did not think that hillary clinton was a corrupt crook. bernie sanders basically thinks that of her. he thinks she is everybody about the oligarchy and the ruling class that defines despicable -- that he finds despicable. she represents something that he in the wayaligned that obama and clinton w

he reached out to jim baker. i think it's smart., if he is going to reunite our fractured party, he needs to reach out and unite, and i think that's the spirit in which bob dole spoke to him today, and offered his advice in public versus what he tells him in private. >> right. do you think donald trump really will take to heart advice he gets from bob dole? >> well, look, i know donald trump had made his way by being a maverick, and, of course, that's been very helpful for him, but i have to tell you on policy advice and personal advi advice, those around trump, and you just had someone on the air who insists, well, trump has dope so well without doing these things, and these people were not with him to start with, and, therefore, why the hell should he bow and ask for their blessing? well, truth is in politics, it's all about addition and creating new friends and bringing people on board, and donald trump, if he's going to win this, i think he's still the underdog no matter the polls show in closing in closer. hillary clinton has d

with that said, remember when donald trump met with jim baker a couple weeks ago, they talked about strategies. it is a lengthy meeting, peter, you stand out here trump's tower and you see people come and go. >> corker has a history of some heated fights of his own, obviously, his fight against harrell junior. he's the kind of person that could help donald trump as he tries to frame his fight going forward. we have another dirty and ugly season ahead. >> reporter: that traditional attack of the vice president it is all cruel. absolutely. >> halie jackson, thank you very much. we want to get to steve cornacki at the wall street journal, steve. >> all right, we are seeing a tight race and in our journal polls, just three points a month ago. people were saying this is going to be a blow out. the biggest answer is right here, it is donald trump in his support among republicans. remember, among the republican primary was still basically playing out. there were a lot of questions about could trump unify the party? well, the answer is when it comes to republican voters, absolutely. republican voters

. >> i had to fight jim baker for three weeks to put the bear in the woods and baker didn't get it. >translate that to this election, it's not bears in the woods it's immigrants at the border. >> one of the clips was on iraq and he wants to claim -- he's going to claim against hillary that he was against the war and she was for it. i asked him you were for it. he said that on howard stern. he's already softening on the muslim policy. we don't know what we're going to get. he's softened his immigration policy as well. >> donald trump is a different kind of candidate. i think the voters are different kind of voters today. that's a surprise that somebody could evolve and change their position and not pay a consequence. people are saying, it's not a politician. >> he's not being political by changing his position. >> you have to remember 30% of the country like him. historically high unfavorables. and hillary clinton is a perfect opportunity for the republicans to win. but even though running against someone who is historically high, he's managed to come in. 37% of the country think hilla

kissing er and jim baker and others, let me give you what was handed to us from the clinton campaign this is from jake sullivan who is foreign policy adviser, former state department official, former vice president biden official from the nse as well. let me get this straight. he's now, of course, with the clinton campaign. donald trump insults the leader of our closest ally, david cameron, then says he'd love to talk to kim jong-un. i also praised him for executing his uncle and seems to have a bizarre fascination with foreign strong men like putin and kim. his approach makes no sense for the rest of us nor does his start to up-end the major international agreement or to rip up a financial reform bill created to protect our economy from another meltdown. is this an unusual statement? this new foreign policy agenda and i've been told they are planning a major foreign policy speech from hillary clinton to show the contrast against trump in the next couple of weeks, maybe after she goes over the top. that remains to be seen. >> the foreign policy people in the republican party are the

offering more finer tuned rhetoric, revealing more on his finances, talking to henry kissinger and jim baker. but today, the setting was the big nra convention in louisville. trump has, fair to say, a complicated history on guns. in his own 2000 book called the america we deserve, trump wrote this. quote, the republicans walk the nra line and refuse even limited restrictions. i generally oppose gun control, but i support the ban on assault weapons and i also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. he tweeted in 2012 after the newtown shootings, quote, president obama spoke for me and every american in his remarks in newtown, connecticut. but more recently, as he started running as a republican, and again today in a speech, he calls gun bans, quote, a total failure. he's now come out against an expansion of background checks. he said that a concealed carry permit in one state should be good in all 50 states, and he wants to eliminate gun-free zones in schools and on military bases. today, trump was full-throated after getting the nra's official endorsement. >> crooked hill

this is on the heels, of course, of the meeting with jim baker last week, for example, where we understand the two talked political strategy. not so much the nuts and bolts of foreign policy. that said trump over the last week or so, the last couple of weeks since he's made the turn to the general election, has clearly been looking to solicit more input and advice from longtime conservative leaders, influence republicans, in many ways republicans who have been around for a long time, folks who have experience with this and looks to build his connection with washington and beef up some of those policy roles and views of how he looks at the world, you could say. we expect to have that happen at the kissinger meeting today and in a sign of other meetings trump has taken, craig, he just walked out of a meeting with influential evangelical leader van derplouffe, he had an endorsement of it ted cruz. now meeting with donald trump telling myself, katy tur, that he has not endorsed trump yet. he told that to the candidate in their meeting, but that was a possibility. he's firmly in the #never hill

he's been talking to jim baker, he'll meet with bob corker. he's not meeting with the george w. bush people. >> robert kagan in a reasonable neocon sticking it to him. >> by the way a lot of the other neocon types they don't want to have anything to do with him. >> at some point the big story will be when hillary grabs some of them. new national pole for "the new york times" shows clinton with a six point lead over trump. 47%, 41%. that is down from a 10 point lead. in this poll trump is closing. there's evidence the republican party's falling in line behind trump. 80% of republicans, four out of five say their party leaders should support trump. joy, this is a coming home faster than i expected to the party. there are people historically more obedient than democrats. it's like catholic school to public school. they don't talk unless spoken to. they do fall in line, they don't fall in love. this is quick to fall in line though. 80% say do what he wants. >> i think it's one other example of the fact that you know, there are certain number of elites in the republican party, really

and i've said over and over, to me, much of what was said reflects what i think bush 41 and jim baker founded and so i think it was more of an affirmation. >> so you think his policy is harkening back to an early era of republican policy that sort of became behind the scenes after 9/11, so he's harkening back to an older tradition. >> i wouldn't even use a word older, i would say more mature. >> the u.s. high-profile in the south china sea could exacerbate u.s. and chinese -- >> i'm sorry. >> that the presence may exacerbate -- >> i think if we don't do it often -- it is a big event that you report on and everyone else does. i think the problem is we're not doing it enough. i think we ought to be within those 12 nautical miles weekly. we have 60% of our naval assets in that part of the world. and so unless it is routine, which it should become, then, yes, you have this notion that, as was mentioned hear today in the hearing, that things could quickly escalate and be problematic. as long as trs understood that it is a -- as long as it is understood for our navy to come within 12 nautic

>> it's what jim baker had, he had skill of execution. it's a skill of -- >> rose: and lyndon johnson had it. >> yeah. passing a complicated piece of legislation with a bipartisan majority is a skill of execution. if you want an example, go see the lincoln movie, he's passing and he's listening to that guy, how do you reach that guy. so it's that political deftness and the nobility of politics. we disdain politicians for being dealmakers -- >> rose: you're saying the word politician. >> yeah, but there is a craft and nobility to it. i think everyone's dumping all over the eretes, but the people i know in government, the civil servants, they're in it for the right reasons. the job is not that glamorous. >> rose: you talked about the modern shame culture in which those accused of incorrect fault face ruin now upconsequences. >> i find on campus after campus it's more narrow-minded than five or ten years ago. what's interesting is this book came out in 1980s something called the closing of the mind that said students don't believe anything.

. >> reporter: and to have these conversations, tamron, which we understand, for example, with jim baker last week that focused more on the political strategy, less so on, let's say, foreign policy or some of these policy positions. trump has gone out and sought counsel now from these old guard conservative leaders to find out, it appears, what his strategy should be moving forward. the risk for trump, of course, is that he has run this campaign and been successful in this campaign bucking every trend, being unpredictable, not doing what the other traditional politicians are doing. it has served him very well. the question is whether that will serve him equally as well as he turns into a general election matchup with hillary clinton whose campaign has already been in a word professionalized to use the word that you used and the word luke used as well. trump for a long time has had that really small core of top aides. that has been expanding more and more as we've seen. and so we will see whether that behooves trump down the road when it comes to maneuvering in this world where he's now b

look at his discussion with jim baker a few weeks ago. focused much more on political strategy than anything else. than on foreign policy or international relations. we're hoping to get a read out after this meeting ends, and we'll keep you posted. >> all right, hallie jackson. thanks for that. >>> more on trump's fund-raising issue. let's bring in alex burns. he wrote the article this weekend that is key gop donors still deeply resist donald trump's candidacy. who are these people? how much are they worth in terms of campaign money? >> over the last three election cycles, it was worth 90 to $100 million to republican candidates and outside groups that typically spend heavily to support republican candidates. donald trump is operating from a serious organizational deficit as he enters this general election. only appointed a finance chairman this month. that's really unusual for a presidential candidate. still no sanctions superpac to raise money for that heavy outside advertising that's conventional in these campaigns. so what we found wa

. >> rose: which is why jim baker said to george bush, get the hell out. >> yeah. i think that the friks and the intensity of the motion is nothing close to what it was between her and barack obama eight years ago. i don't think it's close. and i think putting things back together between them, their campaigns and most of their supporters in philadelphia will be substantially easier than-- . >> rose: why hasn't she picked up the phone to call him to say not so much you have to get out of the race, that is his decision, but to try to appeal to him? >> well, i think people, the candidates who are in combat don't talk to each other that way. she i think particularly was, you know, someone who was told to get out of the race in 2008 over and over again and she thought it was her right to fight. >> she gave him that right too. but i will say about what mark said, it is true that i think that the level of intensity and the level of bitterness is less than in 2008. but here is the truth, at the worst day in 2008, barack obama did not think hillary clinton was a corrupt cr

he's been heating with henry kissinger, talking to jim baker. who is he not meeting with? he's not meeting with those traditional conservative hawks. the george w. bush people and so that's really sending the signal about what kind of republican he is. >> look who knocked him on your paper today? robert kagan, a reasonable neocon, and a hawk, who went after him in a big box column today, robert. really sticking it to him. >> and by the way, a lot of the other neocon types, the bill kristols and so on, they don't want to have anything to do with donald trump. >> they think hillary is going to -- at some point, the big story, when hillary swaps and grabs some of them. anyway, new national poll shows clinton with a six-point lead over trump. we've seen that as of late last night, 47-41. that's down from a ten-point lead a month ago. at least in this poll, trump is closing. meanwhile, there's evidence that the republican party is falling in line behind this. this is pretty astounding. 80% of republicans, four out of five, say their party leaders should support trump. joy, this

we know he met jim baker, today bob corker. your dad was building businesses, they were dealing with countries. >> my father's meeting with the best and brightest people around the world. >> are they like, let me show you the globe and what i think to do with vietnam, with saudi arabia, with china? >> absolutely. very, very, very detailed, and he's going to the best and brightest people. that's how my father always ran a business, right? he got the best, the brightest, the most hard-working people. he put them in a room, asked for their opinions, asked for their thoughts and went in. he's doing the exact same thing. he's getting the advice of the best, smartest people and he ultimately will make his own decision and chart his own path, but believe me, there won't be a single, important, influential person who is at the top of their game that he won't meet with. quite frankly on both sides. he's going to want opinions and he's going to want to make proper decisions. >> on the conservative side, lindsey graham and your father hav

them. 300 retired generals, admirals, national security officials, famous diplolomats, including jim baker and brent scscowcroft and marine general zinni and the head of the former national security agency, bill odom, spoke out and wrote against invading iraq before it happened in march 2003. a majority of the people in this country think that there's something inflated about our military budget. [scattered laughter] all right. well, they've read the pentagon audits and the gao reports and the "60 minute" exposes and so on. it's horrendously inflated. waste, fraud, abuse is only part of it. we're still building cost-overrun military weapons systems dedesigned for the sovit union era of hostility. like, the f-22 should never be built. you could put it on this stage. that's how much $200 million of elecectronics cost, profit in overruns. why are we building more submarines, nuclear submarines? one trident submarine--nuclear warheads can destroy 200 cities. that's beforore it reloads. why are we building more aircraft carriers, $15 billion a carrier? we got 13. the next country to challenge u

i've said over and over to me much of what was said, reflects what i think bush 41, first bush, and jim baker today espouse. so i thought it was more of an affirmation, to be candid. >> so you think his policy is in some ways hearkening pack to an earlier era of republican foreign policy that sort of became behind the scenes after 9/11? so he's hearkening back to an older tradition? >> i think it's -- i wouldn't even use the word "older," i would say more mature. [laughter] >> [inaudible] >> what's that? >> you worried that the u.s. high profile -- [inaudible] exacerbate u.s./china strategic -- [inaudible] >> i'm sorry. >> are you worried that u.s. presence in south china sea may exacerbate -- >> i think if we don't do it often -- [inaudible] it's a big event that you report on and everyone else does. i think the problem is we're not doing it enough. i mean be, i think we ought to be within those 12 nautical miles weekly. we have 60% of our naval assets in that part of the world, and so unless it's routine, which it should become, then, yes, you have this notion that as was mentioned here tod

said over and over to me, much of what was said reflects what i think bush 41, the first bush and jim baker today responded. is in think his policy some ways harkening back to an earlier era of republican foreign-policy that came in and find the scenes after 9/11. harkening back to an older tradition. olderouldn't use the word but more mature. the american high profile -- will this exacerbate the u.s.-china position? the problem is we are not doing it enough. we ought to be within those 12 nautical miles weekly. 60% of our naval assets in that part of the world. unless it is routine, which it should we,, then yes, you have a notion that things quickly could escalate and be problematic. as long as it is understood that it is a routine thing for our o comeavy to calm -- tw within 12 nautical miles -- i would encourage this far more often. >> if there is a chance that mr. trumps approach to foreign affairs might hurt national security, pulling back from nato , telling our allies that we will be cutting back, how do we deal with that? seet this point, you will -- you are seeing the foreign poli

jim baker.ght us through a tougher session and helped establish one of the greatest periods of peace and prosperity. noninflationary economic growth. i think that that really puts that to rest. i don't know why. on the left, wanting to take on and denigrate reagan all the time. he was one of our great residents. >> the perfect proxy for what made america successful from day one. the pull yourself up by the bootstraps. the notion that any of us, no matter where we are born, can decide where we end up because of the way the system is laid out. completely countering to what president obama and others are trying to sell us. >> he was a masterful art reaching bipartisan consensus. we have not had that in a long time. i think that reagan was a master. he showed how he could do it. tip o'neill was an opposite party. reagan and he worked out things, and they fought like heck. at night they got together. >> one more, ambassador. you say he would be fighting ices very differently. how? >> he proved it wit

i have said over and over, to me much of what was said reflects what i think bush 41 and jim baker today espoused. i thought it was more of an affirmation to be candid. policyr: you think is goes back to an earlier era of republican foreign-policy which became behind-the-scenes after 9/11, harkening back to an older tradition? >> i would not even use the word "older." i would say "more mature." reporter: [indiscernible] >> i'm sorry? reporter: do you think this may exacerbate u.s.-china relations? i think the problem is we are not doing it enough. i think we are to be within 12 nautical miles weekly. we have 60% of our naval assets in that part of the world. unless it is routine, which it should become, then yes, you thingsis notion that quickly could escalate and be problematic. as long as it is understood that it is a routine thing for the u.s. navy to come within 12 are not agreeing that these are claimed by anyone. i think we can prevent that from happening. i would encourage it far more often as we get into the hearings. please.: last question, if there is a chance that mr. trump's

jim baker talked about, perpetuate and vitally important, biases practices are ineffective from law enforcement perspective. as former attorney general eric holder is stated, such practices are simply not good law enforcement. as privacy professionals and attorneys, we seek to distinguish information which determines what is and what is not protected under federal policy laws. in this day, privacy officials need to be engaged about what information can and to be shared with other agencies. the department of justice, these responsibilities are within various office within the department and we take a multi layered approach protecting privacy, civil liberties and civil rights. as mentioned, in 2014, the white house released a report titled big data seizing opportunities, preserving values and this was the result of president obama's 90-day big day report. this report caught on the department of justice to examine and focus the domestic use of policing and specifically to focus on the more complex predictive technologies. for example, not merely mapping crimes have occurred in searching databases

people like jim baker because he worked and surveyed the iraq study group and he worked on the 9/11 commission walked into that job and is now reconfiguring our entire middle east policy saying hit the road, egypt, saudi arabia, jordan, and israel. we are going to now side with iran and for two years prior to what they were telling us, james rosen asked the question. they were having one-on-one negotiations with iran hard-liners instead of leveling with the american people and not having relations with iran. >> to summarize facebook is cens censoring, the white house is lying and the state department edited out eight minutes of history. >> wow. on that need we go to heather childers with a fox news alert. >>> breaking overnight a deadly train station attack in germany. a knife-wielding man screaming allahu akbar went on a rampage near munich. one person dead, three others injured. the german is now under arrest. and the motive politically related. dr. sebastian gorka, author of "defeating jihad" and he joined us on why this may be the start of a disturbing trend. >> we may be seeing a differen

i wonder if she wasn't a dupe from jim baker from that administration, who told her to stand down andet him do whatever he needs to do in that area. what the bush administration tried to oust -- host: guest: hussein in with which she supposedly threatened to invade kuwait and she did not say no has haunted the iraq story for a long time. i don't know that he wouldn't have invaded kuwait if she had said, why would that have been decisive? kuwait.nvade they were successful at expelling him. a very different story from the story of the more recent iraq on a miss was based evaluation of the existence of nuclear weapons program. talk a little bit about the situation in syria impact the ongoing fight against terrorists? the more recent events that are as the islamic state advances towards the turkish border, trapping some civilians. the report goes on to say that the islamic reported to capture rebels know the turkish border on friday and is closer to a town on a supply route. beenardline group has fighting against rebels in the area for several months. the rebels, last month sees a major p

. >> reporter: he has done everyone from jim and tammy fay baker to the real justin beiber. >> i want taste of that sweet bieber. >> reporter: to oj. >> hello, sinner. >> reporter: she has aged gracefully, the donald's character is blonder, beefier. >> well isn't that special. >> reporter: cnn. >> isn't that extra special. >> reporter: new york. >> thanks for joining us, anderson starts now. >>> good evening, thanks for joining us. we are following tornadoes in oklahoma that have already taken a life, part of a dangerous weather system that could do more damage tonight, destruction is heavy. >> there are houses completely gone, all of the walls are down. the trees stripped bare here, this is not a good thing. the houses through here, there are several from memory, yeah, they're all just -- they're just gone right now. >> we will have more on the tornadoes coming up later,

assembling this program, i got a hold of jim hamilton to ask him if he had ever really discussed this issue. he said, as a matter of fact, i had a video i did in the howard baker room of the university of tennessee and i'll be happy to send you up a transcript of it or a video of it. so here is a little clip from what happened from jim hamilton's recollection of these events. >> when sam dash called me early saturday morning, july 14th, he said, let's go tell john dean what we just learned. and a little later sam picked me up and we drove to dean's townhouse in alexander, virginia. john and his -- and his glamorous wife, the always well-put together met us at the front door. and john had a quiz cal look on his face because he didn't yet know what the purpose of the visit was. so we went upstairs to their living room. and john and beau sat on a couch and after some preliminary conversation sam sat down to the left. and i stood before john by the mantel piece where i could look directly at john because i wanted to see john's reaction when sam told him what we may have knew about the taping system. when sam finally did, john broke into a wide smile. for he knew t

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sitdown with former secretary of state james baker, a trusted adviser of the bush family and it does not get more washington than that, don. >> thank you, jim. appreciate it. >> the gop remains divided over donald trump. jan brewer of arizona has endorsed department and bill standard. governor brewer, let's listen to speaker ryan today after the meeting. here he is. >> i was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. i do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified, to bridge the gaps and differences and so from here we're going to go deeper into the policy areas to see where what common ground is and how we can make sure we are operating off the same core principles. so, yes, this is our first meeting, i was very encouraged with this meeting but this is a process. it takes a little time. you don't put it together in 45 minutes. so that is why we had, like i said, a very good start to a process on how we unify. >> so donald trump didn't speak today but we know he's a prolific tweeter. he did say this on twitter. he said "great day in d.c. with speaker ryan and republican leadership. things working out