talk about jim baker. he ran the campaign against ronald reagan for george hw bush and ronald reagan chose him to be his white house chief of staff and he was seen as probably the most successful person at that job of the modern times. how did he do it? >> he didn't have a background that was would successfully woe successful. he ran the campaign in 1976 coming from nowhere in the wreckage after. the previous group had been sent off to jail and a whole generation that kind of came to the floor. in his case, an example of an outsider coming into washington but he wanted to get things do done. not just one, but two campaigns against him and ended up being as you said a smart choice on his part. >> host: he was on the course to become treasury secretary and pulled off this bipartisan tax plan which as we know we haven't seen the likes of edison's -- likes of it since. what pulled it all together? 's gimmick this is a question everybody asked. he would give this and tell you my family has preparation and we al

there were some that didn't want sandra day o'connor and jim baker blocked them from meeting with presidenteagan and i think that baker personally was very invested in wanting sandra day o'connor, wifirst woman on e supreme court, it shows that playing to the center was politically seen as attractive at that time. right now you have a situation where the president and the republicans around him are playing constantly to the base, to the divisions and the polarization and so i think that's a classic example of where jim baker's washington is not the washington that we're operating in right now, the incentives to governor from the center disappeared. >> this president doesn't see the value of having more adults in the room is one way to put it. grateful for your time. i hope read this important book. thanks so much for sharing time with us. >>> new evidence that more of you are going back to work. you know when your dog is itching for an outing... or itching for some cuddle time. but you may not know when he's itching for help... licking for help... or rubbing for help. if your dog does these

jim baker believed in getting things done. they would never have gone months without a coronavirus relief package the way we're seeing today. he never would have put a candidate out onstage to behave the way that the president did tonight. that would have been anathema to him. so while he was not broken with his party, he finds trump to be very, very disturbing. he's used words like "crazy" and "nuts" with us when we've talked with him about it. i think that would be something he would watch tonight, and not feel that he was wrong about. >> susan, i'm really curious to hear your answer to this again because you're the most quoted journalist not on this broadcast. we follow every word you write for "the new yorker." lyndon johnson used to deride the state department types in foggy bottom as the striped pants set. he had a healthy amount of disdain for the ivy league types who populated foggy bottom. baker is not that. is he as good as he was lucky in his choice of relationships with 41, and do you define him as every inch a sta

asked to run a campaign for george walk or bush and jim baker says i'm a democrat you know running asublican and i don't know anything about politics but worked out for jim and walk or bush and wasn't something that wassen played very often great things in life are not planned. >> when you said that oprah is a listener also, and that she tells you that she tries to understand the impact of what is being said by people. what do you think is the quality that make her connect so directly to people whether it is a live audience or -- in a film or in a play? >> it's a word that has come about recently in the news. it is called empathy. you have to empathize with people. and when people can sense you empathize with them, you can connect with them and she's the best at that. it's like i like to say in the book she's done so well that she doesn't need a second name. so she's like cher or madonna or bono. good first name does it all and as i like to say in the book i did in the interview her i said consider running for president. you know you don't have to be a government official anymore and

a jim baker believed in doing business. jim baker believed in getting things done. he believed sitting down with democrats and cutting deals. they would never have gone months without a coronavirus relief package the way we're seeing it today. put out in stage to became the way the president did tonight. that would have been anathema to him. while he has not broken with his party, he finds trump to be very, very disturbing. he's used words like "crazy" and "nuts" with us when we talked about it. i think that would be something that he would watch and, you know, not feel that he was wrong about. >> susan, i'm really curious to hear your answer to this, again, because you're the most-quoted journalist not on this broadcast. we follow every word you write for -- he had a healthy amount of disdain for the ivy league types who populated foggy bottom. baker is not that. as he as good as he was lucky in terms of relationship with 41 and do you define him as every inch a statesperson? >> well, those are good questions, brian. he was a person of his era. i don't know how he

jim baker does not make much of donald trump. whole career was about a series of purposes, integrity, decency and dignity yet he cannot break himself. he doesn't endorse trump, and has yet to vote against him. and they're trying to accommodate themselves to the person who's basically affected a hostile takeover of the party. >> get peter and susan's book. thank you all. you guys were a terrific panel, and it was great to be back in studio. before we say good-bye, a quick programming note, we debuted meet the press reports and on demand and peacock for 30 minutes and we'll do a deep dive into a single topic, and this week we explored how to win a presidential debate, with those that have been involved in presidential debate prep for four decades. watch this right now on peacock along with full episodes of "meet the press." we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> trump is about to replace a liberal icon with an extremely conservative justice who's been called the female antonin scalia, and she cou

jim baker does not like donald trump. let's make that clear. he called him nuts to us. y. he said in many ways what he stands for is antithetical to everything that baker has been though world stage. baker is an internationalist. he's a free trader. he was so offended, i remember one time right after trump's inauguration he said y does he keep saying mexico is going to pay for the wall. mexico is not going to pay for the wall. he shouldn't do that. he was offended by the incompetence of the administration. we're at such a partisan time, i think for many republicans, not just for baker, you see them having a really hard time renouncing the idea of their party. and that's why, by the way, donald trump is running so close in the polls to joe biden. you would think with 200,000 dead americans, with the economy cratering, with all the scandals that it would be a much wider race, frankly. and i think our conversations with baker helped me to understand why it's not. and i -- we just learned so much from doing this project. we don't study lbj as a power broke erbecause we admir

i called secretary of state jim baker, the 3 hours together, on behalf of the president, on a trip. i have made every effort to make sure donald trump and i were speaking his language was he was elected, he got the electoral votes, i didn't get any. wherever i was traveling i was speaking on behalf of the united states of america. i worked hard making sure that relationship was good and sound and we had a set of common understandings. we don't always agree. i make recommendations, he takes some of them, some he has a different view. i drive my team to go through that. i appreciate the opportunity today. talking about economic issues, i don't see these as disconnect is. the central tool the chinese communist party used to build hegemonic capacity is economic might, the power of the market of 1.4 million people, sucking american businesses to do the most outrageous things and tell the chinese to get away with human rights violations in your country, we will take a pass. we may support proof in the united states, we don't do a thing to protect human rights inside china even though we t

i think that jim baker, his struggle really has been the republican party's struggle. the hostile takeover as jared kushner put it recently of the republican party. baker over five years we watched him torn about this, told us that he thought donald trump was nuts, told us he thought him to be crazy. idealogically he was opposed to many of the aspects of what trump was doing. baker is a free trader and internationalist. i remember going to see him after the inauguration and he was offended by the sheer incompetence of it. why is he saying mexico is going to pay for the wall, they're not going to pay for it. he shouldn't say that. yet he couldn't clearly renounce where the republican party is headed. that tells us the story why the election is so much closer than you would think it would be with more than 200,000 americans dead and the like. >> peter, what is it that makes him more loyal as a republican than even those friend and loved ones that e he spent his life working for and working with? i find it fascinating that he's one of the few that -- around the bush famil

i think henry kissinger was the greatest golfer practitioner of the modern era and more recently jim bakerxtraordinarily effective given his political skills and negotiating skills, the tightness of his relationship as well with the president. >> and national security advisor? >> i've got the consensus pick brent scowcroft i was lucky enough to work with him for four years. that is a critical job where you've got to balance two very different roles and be a distant sort of due process and an honest broker to make sure the president is well served. the disciplined decision-making and implementation. a second you've got to be a counselor to the president and often the second gets in the way of the first. some people have been good at one or the other. brent i think was better than anyone. whoever the next president of the united states is let's suppose that person calls you up and says i'm going to the inaugural parties tonight but i have an hour or so to get up to speed on some issues and i would like your advice on how to deal with the biggest challenges i'm going to face. let's quickly go

and i think that is also the story of jim baker that we were looking at. alking with baker about trump. baker really does like donald trump. he says that he is crazy, he is very disdainful of the incompetence in the white house that we've seen. remember baker was sort of the gold standard white house chief of staff for ronald reagan. so he has a very concerned rue about the ideological changes in the republican party. baker is a nationalist, a trade. by the way, he is not a climate denialist. he is an environmentalist. so there's enormous differences and disdain. the problem is, he's not sure what to do about it. he sees himself as a builder of the modern republican party and hasn't been able to figure out trump. he said at one point he would consider voting for biden and then said no, no, please don't say that. now i suppose at 90 you're entitled to your silence. he has contracted the coronavirus and is recovering but doesn't want to talk any more about the election. >> is he okay? is he recovering from coronavirus, susan? >> it appears that he has recover

when i was the cia director nominated to come to state, i called jim baker and he visited me at langley and the very first thing he said and maybe the only thing he said for the three hours we were together, he said a secretary of state who doesn't have the capacity to speak on behalf of the president is just some guy out on a trip. though, i have made every effort to make sure that president trump and i were speaking the same language, his language, he got the electoral votes, that we were talking about things in ways that when i represented something, that the united states was doing, wherever i was traveling, i was speaking on behalf of the president of the united states of america. so i've worked had at making sure that relationship was good and sound and we had a set of common understandings. we don't always agree. i make recommendations to them. he takes some of them. some of them he has a different view. i execute them as vigorously as i can. you mentioned something and i know this is the last question. i appreciate this opportunity today. you mentioned the president began talkin

really thought the future was quite bright and we had a great team in the first bush administration, jim baker was secretary of state, dick chaney was secretary of defense and brett sokov was national security advisor, we worked together smoothly and it looked like the prospect was very bright. >> when you read your book, it doesn't look like the last 30 years that every panned out in the way you were hoping in some ways. the big question is what went wrong? >> that was the germ of an idea that really led to my writing the book was given where we were at the end of 1992 and fast forward 30 years and we are beset at every turn by challenges both internal and external, perceived as withdrawing from a global leadership role, in some respect we are. we're fighting three simultaneous crises here inside the united states, a racial cries, an economic crisis, a public health crisis and thayer all linked together in one way or another and we're paralyzed. the congress can't do anything of any consequence because of the partisan divide. so i want to do -- wanted to go back and look at how did we get to

and 11 but it had not gone that treatment, it's not like trump came in and said i'm going to get jim baker from the republican and the equivalent on the democrat side, put together and have the powers what they need to do to get to the bottom of what happened and provide recommendations to the country, to the government and the way the country can deal with it. as you come into this election, there's this stuff they've done there's nothing robust ever to figure out how to deal a multi dimensional threat that involves disinformation and hacking and stuff like that. e-mails and all sorts of stuff. as we come into this election, the country just hasn't gone through that, to come off of capitol hill but there's no authoritative accounting, and even the mueller investigation which looked at what crimes would be in connection with election, it doesn't provide what we know of the election but it doesn't provide recommendations on how to do it. >> he also writing a book about top fbi officials trying to make the justice department and the 2016 election, if the euro should physically be able to loo

wrote the sba and ftc about televangelist jim baker, whom we heard senator blumenthal describe. advancing the claim that products containing colloidal silver could cure coronavirus. they had previously claimed it cured all venereal diseases, such as hiv. there is no evidence that silver supplements heal or treat any symptoms. colloidal server, in large amounts, can be dangerous to kidneys and major organs. it can cause permanent discoloration of a person's skin or major organs. we also sent a request asking for enforcement on supplements being marketed as antiviral claims. any supplement claiming to be a cure is immediately sent to the fda, because only drugs can cure or treat disease. our market scan found 46 dietary supplements making illegal claims. we vote than for immediate removal. 26 of these supplements are still making antiviral claims on their own websites or on online stores. we continued to be on the look for scams related to the claims. in the pandemic, such untruth posed a clear and urgent danger. consumers may fail to practice social distancing, endangering themse

east there could be trouble but as you saw the way schultz in foreign policy and my former boss jim baker first term with domestic agenda and the second term of the treasury, on subordinates, roosevelt built his own subordinates, will select those subordinates. i think that's also part of an effective foreign policy team. >> in some ways it's less about strictly speaking pragmatism and more about something that mario cuomo what said during the campaign Ãas you campaign in poetry and you govern in à >> what i wanted to stress from a pragmatic site is that many of the books on foreign policy try to put things in categories or models. what i was trying to explain to people is when i was the daily german unification in 1989 or the trade policy or others the models are realism, idealism or offshore balancing or other issues don't take you very far. i was trying to suggest my experience as well as study of foreign policy in the united states emphasize people go beyond the intellectual abstractions to the messy facts of trying to solve problems. you know as a member of congress, how do you get

jim baker, the general counsel said, they could direct us to close the investigations.o what all the right legal, appropriate answers are for us to do in response to that was extraordinary in terms of both its unprecedented nature and the sheer gravity of what we're facing. and so the -- it became apparent that it became a very rapidly seen consensus that particularly with the firing that that was not just a criminal issue but because it potentially obstructed our counterintelligence, look, and it was also a national security issue. on top of all the other things we had seen relating to the president. and so then acting director mccabe made the decision to open the case and we opened it. and i remember sitting there that night getting a stack of all the memos that director comey had written about his interactions with the president and standing in front of a scanner, you know, in our classified network, which looked out over pennsylvania avenue, across the street to the department of justice, and feeding those into the scanner so that we could get them electronically sc

i mentioned a number of them in , in particularer tv evangelist jim baker her recently promoted a celluloid silver on his show claiming that it would eliminate irises. such as coronavirus. one -- cellular silver "achieve 99.99% against 660l microorganisms." again, this is deception. we find these kinds of utterly false ads or quintessence, theatherapy, energetics, verify holistic -- vivify holistic clinics. there is a list and it is growing. many of us i think hope that swiftlysis would pass and we could return to a normal life. both the health-care care crisis and the economic crisis. we are six months into this pandemic and there is no end in sight to this horrendous national suffering. we have seen heart break. this has been aggravated and not reduce by many of these false and misleading promises for products that threaten health lives, takeger a money from people unfairly and even weekly -- and even legally but also pose dangers to lives. thank you. >> senator blumenthal, thank you. we will hear testimony from our witness is and we begin with the honorable derek schmidt, attorney genera

a former secretary of state james baker helped negotiate a compromise. >> jim called and, how about normandy shows the cliff's u.s. soldiers took on d-day. it's especially impressive at night. do you honestly, do you like the memorial, or are you just happy that something was built while members of the greatest generation are still around? >> both, probably. it's like legislation. you know, you finally vote for a bill. it's not the best possible bill, it's the best bill possible. >> chris: the memorial is on prime real estate across from the air and space museum. roberts hopes that will draw schoolchildren to take in one of the key lessons from eisenhower's life. they go from a small town america, a youngster from a great family and then west poind then the rest is history. it's just a tribute, really, to young people to really set their goals high and try to achieve it. >> chris: the eisenhower memorial will be dedicated on thursday and it opens to the public friday. and that's it for today, have a great week, and we will see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ we're living in uncertain times, bu

jim, he is in the hospital. he's being held there under the baker act which is a florida act that allows them to involuntarily temporarily if they think they might be causing harm to themselves. he is recovering there. getting treated there. he was demoted this past summer as campaign manager. still a senior advisory position but the communications manager for the campaign says brad parscale is a member of our family. we all love him. we are ready to support him and his family in any way possible. a very trying time for this family. >> absolutely. vr disturbing situation. randi kaye, thank you very much. >>> dr. anthony fauci voices concern about dr. scott atlas. that's coming up. [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. instwith vicks sinex saline congnasal mist. for drug free relief that works fast. vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and let me tell you something, i wouldn't be here if i thought reverse mortgages took advantage of any american

jim handle meant to ask if he ever really discuss this issue. this is a matter of fact i have a video i did in the howard baker room of the university of tennessee. i'll be happy to send you a transcript, or video of it. so here's a little clip from what happened, jim hamilton's recollection of these events. >> when sam called me early saturday morning, july 14th. he said, let's go tell john dean what we just learned. a little later sam pick-me-up, and we drove to dean's town house in alexandria, virginia. john and his glamorous wife, they always well put together. met us at the front door, and john had a quizzical look on his face because he didn't yet know what the purpose of the visit was. so we went upstairs to the living room, and john and both sat on a couch, and after some preliminary conversation, sam sat down to the left and i stood before john by the mantle piece. where i could look directly at john, because i wanted to see jon's reaction when sam told him what we had nailed him about the taping system. when sam finally did john broke into a wide smile. four he knew that the tapes essentially were going to confer his damning testimony