jim baker.sent president woule guy who ran not one but two campaigns against him as his chief of staff went into that thing i think is you said ended up being a smart choice on his part. >> susan, what was that quality in jim baker that got him chosen for that job, i made in a successful as it was? he went on to be treasury secretary, pulled off this big bipartisan tax plan which as we know, we have seen anything really the likes of it since back during the reagan years. but what was it about him that pulled it all together? >> judy, jim baker, this is a question anybody asks. he will give you this sort of folksy twang and he will tell you you know, my family has reparation, poor performance but we all know pretty well that washington is a city full of a schuessler should do their homework and stay up late. certainly it's true jim baker was assiduous to the point of obsessively came to getting the job done and he was famous for staying in the white house at night in the reagan white house until

jim baker did.ther president would pick the guy who ran not just one two but two campaigns against him in as his chief and staff and ended up being a smart choice on his part. >> and susan what was that quality in jim baker that got him chosen for that job, that made him a successful also he was. went on to be treasury secretary, pulled off this big bipartisan tax plan which as we know -- we haven't seep anything the likes of it since back during the reagan years. but what was it about him that pulled it all together? >> well, judy, jim baker will give you this sort of folky twang and tell you, my family has aned aage, prior preparation prevent poor performance, but we all know pretty well that washington is a city full of ambitious lawyers who do this homework and stay up late and certainly it's true that jim baker was asued use to the point of obsessive when it came to getting the job done and was famous for staying see white house in the reagan white house until he returned every phone call from

and peter, what does jim baker think of what's going on?do this interview will be released in september so time will pass but what about that? >> i think he word have been at sea. he was shaped by the postwar the dna were the architects the influences that he never stopped comparing himself to. and today, first of all trumps washington would be a mind-boggling alien and appalling place for richard holbrooke. everything trump doesn't form policy is the opposite of what richard holbrooke would do. everything. i cannot think of a single move trump is made that holbrooke would have agreed with and vice versa. he would have been writing columns for the "washington post" and announcing the isolationism of america first, talking about the importance of the transatlantic alliance and nato and our allies in asia. during the pandemic i think he would have been a brilliant organizer of other countries to find a cooperative response. that is what he excelled out. he put hiv-aids as an issue before the security council so he understood the disease could

and jim baker wants to run a campaign for herbert walker bush and he said i'm a democrat and you are running as a republican. i don't know anything about politics but it worked out. >> you said oprah is a listener and she tells you she tries to understand the impact of what is being said by people but what makes her connect so directly whether a live audience or a film or play? >> a word recently that has come about is empathy you have to empathize and if they can sense you empathize you connect with them she is the best at that. she does it so well she doesn't need a second name like madonna or share the first name says it all i said when you consider running for president you have to be a show anymore she flirted with that but then she realized oprah is better than presiden president's. >> and then to discover something that's even better. >> misleaders have failed if you have not failed probably will not be very successful something has to make you go down everything that makes you stronger oprah was fired was about to be fired from another when she went to chicago to become famou

jim baker invited me to come to texas. i say it was my first foreign trip as secretary of state. it was really important in order to show how two secretaries of state, former secretaries could work together but also the importance of the domestic issues for foreign policy in terms of our relationship with mexico, for instance, or a variety of trade issues. but at the part and really do believe this is about america is a country of diverse populations in a number of different ways. i found as an immigrant myself that there are various ethnic groups that do have an interest in what is happening in their former country. they are a natural base for understanding the domestic issues of foreign policy. they are also issues that very specifically as you travel around is to understand how the industry of a particular ad industry in a particular state really depends on what is going on abroad. that is not politicking. that is explaining what is going on, and explain to people why they have an interest in foreign policy. i now think with covid there is no question that the pandemic knows n

year a lot will be happening and the government might need to do more the pressure is on japan to jim baker thank you very much. now to some of the other business stories making news he african development fund has approved a nearly $10000000.00 grant to the small nation of guinea to sell money will go to help the country's coated response the development fund says guinea reacted quickly to the pandemic but its health infrastructure is poorly equipped to fight the virus . sony is pulling the much hyped game cyberpunk 277-2077 from playstation stores a week after its thank you they've been glitches and one complaint of an epileptic seizure the japanese company is offering full refunds it's one of the most expensive video games of a made year and negotiators a striking a pessimistic turnaround breaks the trade talks says a new deadline approaches a uniter she. calls the situation grave i mean this to boris johnson says no deal of heat is likely for britain the european parliament says it needs the draft of any agreement by sunday. britain officially left the european union on february 1st and

prompted him to say i fought foi and you met him and after a 21 year effort we did just that from jim baker bob dole susan eisenhower and the family and lisa murkowski keeping it going through tough yearspr now an appropriate and stunning memorial to say western democracy in world war ii and onto the world stage with the final dedication at the end of my senate career a full famy circle accomplishment is my dad helped ike the least i could do to help make a memorial to a great general and president. in a homecoming address eisenhower famously said the best thing i can say is i am from abilene he saved roster democracy led the nation for eight years with peace and prosperity. i also come from a small town in kansas so how did this bully become the longest-serving member of congress in kansas history? like father like son. i graduated from k state with a degree in journalism my father join thmarines in world war ii and saw action in oconomowoc and iwo jima. i was joined in peace time to be part of the first marine contingent to rurn to iwo jima on the 15th anniversary of that battle. from mar

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after a 21-year effort we did just that with help from bob dole, jim baker, susan eisenhower and the eisenhower family and senator lisa murkowski who kept the commission going through those years. we have an appropriate, if not stunning memorial to the kansan who saved western democracy in world war ii and led america on to the world stage. with a final dedication of the dwight david eisenhower memorial at the end of my senate career, it is a full family circle accomplishment. if my dad helped to elect ike, the least i could do is leave a memorial on the mall to a great general and president a reality. eisenhower famously said the proudest thing that i can say is that i am from abilene. he was a small town kansas boy who served western democracy and led the nation for eight years with peace and prosperity. i too came from a small town in kansas. how did this boy from holton, kansas, become the longest serving member in kansas city. like father, like soon. i graduated from k state with a journalism. my dad saw -- i was joined in peace time -- i joined in peacetime and served on okinaw

effort, we did that with the help from bob dole, jim baker, the eisenhower family and senator lisa murkowski. who kept the commission going through these tough years. finally, we have an appropriate if not stunning memorial to the kansan who saved western democracy in world war ii and let america onto the world stage. with the final dedication of the memorial at the end of my career, it is a full family circle accomplishment. ike, the helped elect least i could do was to lead the effort to make a memorial on the mall to a great president a reality. in the homecoming address, eisenhower said the proudest thing i can say is that i am from abilene. he was a small count -- a small-town kansas boy who led the nation for eight years with peace and prosperity. i come from a small town in kansas. how did this boy from holton, kansas become the longest serving member of congress in kansas history? like father, like son. i graduated from k state with a degree in journalism. my father joined the marines and a world war ii and saw action in okinawa and iwo jima. i was joined in priest time -- served onm

ronald reagan had the best organized of the white houses because his chief of staff was jim baker andn didn't want to initiate the culture so much as he wanted to fit into it. george bush 41 was an extension of that. now comes clinton and it's a college dorm. the president's administrative assistant andy friendly looks like he should be carded as he sits just outside the oval office at the right hand of power. >> how old are you? >> 24. >> what do you want to be when you grow up? >> i was 24, just turned 24 right after the president was sworn in. there were certain days when the pressure was intense and i blamed him for all the gray hair i currently have. we got a lot of play certainly at the beginning of having such a youthful staff. i think that was both a combination of people like me in relatively junior roles. there were a lot of people who had worked on the campaign, had proven their worth, worked hard and were rewarded with jobs in the white house. >> i'm not sure we were that much younger than the junior staff who had worked for president bush before, but it did play into the

this is jim baker talking. he said, i don't think you will be able to do it because they have too many resources, too much money in the -- and the western saharan people don't have any money, they don't have any resources and they are the ones who have been abused in this. he said, good luck. i will do everything i can to help you. that was back when jim baker was secretary of state, that was a long time ago. since that time, every administration -- and not just republican administrations, democrat administrations, they say this is unfair, we can't allow that giant to take over the righteous people and that's what has happened. so it's not over yet. and i can assure you that i will make every effort i can to make sure that we will go back to the policy that we had and that ultimately we'll achieve, maybe this will be just the thing. this shock treatment for the american people and for the people around the world might be just the thing that is going to offer them an opportunity for a referendum for self-determi

jim baker -- >> neil: is that right. including a certain relative of yours. >> of course.ld. he surrounded himself with great people. they help cover you in glory. >> neil: you mentioned ronald reagan. you're very fair and balanced in quoting and looking at president's. john f. kennedy came to mind. you mentioned he set a goal for this country about landing a man on the most. it seemed preposterous when he said that. the end of the decade we would have a man on the moon. big goals are important. how do you instill that in workers who might not share your big dreams? how do you pound that home to them? >> main thing is this: share your vision with people. don't assume that they know what you're talking about. very often i'll have a meeting with people. there will be five or six around a table. at the end, i say let's review the bidding. i ask each one, the five or six,what they learned and what our decision was. believe it or not, 99 times out of 100 none of them get all the decisions right because they heard what they want to hear, not what i was said. so that the main thi

you know, jim baker when he was secretary of state used to joke.w do you know you're out of power in washington is when your limousine was yellow and your driver speaks -- >> your limousine is a taxi. >> exactly. >> who is donald trump and what is the republican party when he's no longer in the white house? >> if you look to the breakdown right now, ari between those who say the election is over, these allegations of fraud are crazy and those that seem to be really disconnected from reality and doubling down on that disconnection, there's going to be a fracture there and i think we'll only know how deep and broad it is after trump is out of power and biden is that you will have 20, 25% who are going to say we just can't go on like this where i stick a spoke in your wheel and then you stick a spoke in my wheel. we have too many big hard things we need to do and they need to be done together. as you said at the end, if we can't do that, we really are in trouble. >> and you mentioned the senate. you definitely caught some people's ears around the elec

year oh it will be happening and the government might need to do more the pressure is on japan to jim baker thank you very much. now to some of the other business stories making news he african development fund has approved a nearly $10000000.00 grant to the small nation of guinea to sell money will go to help the country's coated response the development fund says guinea reacted quickly to the pandemic but its health infrastructure is poorly equipped to fight the virus . sony is pulling the much hyped game cyberpunk 277-2077 from playstation stores a week after its temp you have been glitches and one complaint of an epileptic seizure the japanese company is offering full refunds it's one of the most expensive video games of a made year and negotiators are striking a pessimistic tone around break that trade talk says a new deadline approaches a uniter she. calls the situation grave i mean this to boris johnson says no deal of heat is likely for britain the european parliament says it needs the draft of any agreement by sunday. britain officially left the european union on february 1st and e

jim baker used to say how do you know you are out of power in washington?our limousine is yellow and your driver speaks farsi. donald trump will not be the same donald trump when his limousine is yellow, when he is hailing a cab and his driver speaks farsi. he knows that more than anyone. how much he will have influence, absolutely, no question about it. he has a cult of personality. no question about it. but this is what biden actually talked about in the interview with me. how many republicans will still be with him? maybe 20, 25%. if he can, maybe we can actually start to govern again in an effective way. >> and yet "the washington post" found after asking every house and senate republican only one in ten admit that biden is president-elect. you know, there is this awful undemocratic situation we are in. evan, biden's mostly ignored it. does that come from his leadership team? does that come from ron sclakla this idea to ignore the noise? >> it's a mantra that they have used internally going back to when ron klain was the eastbobo czar in the obama admin

where i pointed out that former secretary of state, jim baker, used to joke that how do you know you are out of power in washington? it's when your limousine is yellow and your driver speaks farcy. and so, what none of us know is what will trump's grip on that party be when his limousine is yellow and his driver speak -- when -- when he's out of power? and i think, anderson, that's what he is afraid of most. he is terrified that the phone calls won't be answered so quickly. maybe, access to fox news won't be so great. but, the real culprit here, and the -- and the truly shocking thing, beyond his behavior, is that, at this point in this election, and at this point in this pandemic, there aren't five, ten, republican senators who just say, enough, sorry. this is -- this election is over. this pandemic hasn't even begun to crest, and i am not participating in this farce, any longer. you'd think five, ten. not one. when you think of those who were ready to go to prison to suffer the worst, you know, pain in defense of human rights. and these people won't give up their free parking place

it's jim baker. he says, hang on for the veep. it was george bush.00 now. 4:00 we will introduce you. show up at the spanish plaza. where is the spanish plaza? he said something like, i don't really know. this is your first assignment. don't screw it up. >> george bush decided this was the day for the news. >> i said, i have to be there at 4:00 so they can introduce me. i'm driving around there. it's too early. i drive around the block. ten minutes to 4:00 i go to the spanish plaza. i get out of the car. i turn the corner to go down to where i'm supposed to be. there's 5,000 people. i go, oh, my gosh. how in the heck am i going to get through that crowd? >> quayle, a defense hard-liner, popular on the right, seemed nervous. he arrived barely in time to hear bush's words. >> somebody about halfway through gives me a big elbow in the solar plexus. almost knocked the breath out of me. i said, excuse me. i said, i'm senator dan quayle. i don't care who you are. i've been waiting here for two hours to see who the next vice president is going to be. i almo

it's jim baker, and he says here, hang on for the veep. it is george bush.00 now. 4:00, we're going introduce you. show up at spanish plaza. i say where in the heck is the spanish plaza? he said well, i don't really know, but this is your first assignment. don't screw it up. >> george bush clearly decided this was the day for the news. >> i knew he was very punctual, so i said i got to be there right at 4:00 so he can introduce me. i'm driving around. we get there at 20 to four. it's too early. ten minutes to four, i go to the spanish plaza and i get out of the car and i turn the corner to go down to where i'm supposed to be, and there is like 5,000 people. and i go oh, my gosh. how in the heck am i going to get through that crowd? >> quayle, a defense hard-liner, popular on the republican right seemed thunderstruck and understandably nervous. he had arrived barely in time to hear bush's words. >> i never forget somebody about halfway through gives me a big elbow in the solar plexus. almost knocked my breath out. excuse me. i said i'm senator dan quayle. i s

jim baker -- neil: that's right. including a certain relative of yours, right?f yours. >> of course, my brother ronald. he surrounded himself with great people. they help cover you in glory. neil: you know, you mentioned ronald reagan but you were also very fair and balanced in quoting, looking at presidents. john f. kennedy came to mind when you mentioned he set a goal for this country about landing a man on the moon that seemed preposterous when he was saying it in 1961, at the end of that decade we would have a man on the moon, but big goals are important, but how do you instill that in workers who might not share your big dreams? how do you pound that home to them? >> the main thing is this. share your vision with people. don't assume that they know what you're talking about. very often, i will have a meeting with people, there will be five or six of us sitting around the table and at the end, i say let's review the minutes and i ask each of the five, the six, what they learned, what our decision was. believe it or not, 99 times out of 100, none of them get

former secretary of state jim baker, 2005, quote, absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud. bipartisan, 2005. citizens who vote at home, in nursing home, the workplace or church are more susceptible to pressure, overt or subtle, vote-buying schemes are more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail. bipartisan, jimmy carter and yim baker. why won't we talk about it here? why are we making this all about the president not the president, the votes, we had a massive increase in mail-in ballots and we are wondering whether our election system is even working. examples of known fraud, in 2016, 83 registered voters in san pedro, california, received absentee ballots at the same mall, two-bedroom apartment. a north carolina case, a republican operative allegedly requested more than 1,200 absentee ballots and checked the ballot lots from voters' homes. investigation of a thrass city council election found 700 fraudulent ballots. i go on and on but there's problems with mail-in ballots. what did we just see this year, ladies and gentlemen? georgia. 2016 general elec

powell revival, or whatever you want to call it yesterday, and i was reminded of tammy faye and jim baker, the way that they talk and the things that they do. i would bet my honda that donald trump will not run for election in 2024. i believe that he was doing all of this just to get money. that's all i have. susan in longmont, colorado. caller: good morning. i'm calling to talk about the actions and the speech of the president in general, and the divisiveness that it has created amongst all of us. member -- ia family feel like family members, friendships, coworkers, he has turned against that he has turned us all against one another. my sister has just about turned me out because i am not sufficiently reverential to donald j. trump. i am just concerned that he has created that he has fueled such -- you can hear it from the callers, the anger and the rage and the fighting that people do because of all of this. i am wondering if other people feel the same way i do, because it is so isolating, especially with covid raging. nastinessis kind of foisted upon us from the highest level of our go

after a 21-year effort we did just that with help from bob dole, jim baker, susan eisenhower and theeisenhower family and senator lisa murkowski who kept the commission going through those years. we have an appropriate, if not stunning memorial to the kansan who saved western democracy in world war ii and led america on to the world stage. with a final dedication of the dwight david eisenhower memorial at the end of my senate career, it is a full family circle accomplishment. if my dad helped to elect ike, the least i could do is leave a memorial on the mall to a great general and president a reality. eisenhower famously said the proudest thing that i can say is that i am from abilene. he was a small town kansas boy who served western democracy and led the nation for eight years with peace and prosperity. i too came from a small town in kansas. how did this boy from holton, kansas, become the longest serving member in kansas city. like father, like soon. i graduated from k state with a journalism. my dad saw -- i was joined in peace time -- i joined in peacetime and served on okinawa

baker motley. motley not only a law graduate, that's something she certainly shared with senator harris, but a member of the naacp's legal team, doing that essential litigation work to challenge jim crow in the realm of political rights. constance baker motley, who goes on to run for office, held office in the city of new york in the new york state and legislature and, of course, will be appointed to the federal bench, the first black woman to be appointed by lyndon johnson. these are the women who today still grapple with the legacies and the fact of voter suppression in our own time, surely, but they do so with a new sort of access a new sort of influence, and do so as a force in american politics. so with that, i think i'll end and say thank you again so much for all of our hosts for convening us yet again in this wonderful series of conversations, and i think i'm going to invite back jane campbell if i'm not mistaken. jane is going to join me for some conversations and i think for some question and answer. so, thanks, jane, for doing this with me. jane: well, thank you so much, martha, for that. informative visitation. it really is so much to think about and so much to unders

examples out of nevada and, again, democrat president jim hu carternd republican former secretary of state and white house chief of staff james baker in their report to the united states of america, they itemized at least two instands, two cases, two electionsn which illegal aliens were significantly participating contrary to american l. there's plenty ofer evidence out there. it's iefutable. >> host: janice,lum mouth, michigan. republican, good morning. >> caller: good morning. thank you, representative mo brooks, for your awe appearance today on -- appearance today on c-span. thank you to c-span for having him on and keep up the good fight. and i just want -- don't know what is going on in this country. this has been the yea from hell. never mind the covid, i mean, the blatant cheating and stealing of this election, if joe biden is inaugurated on january 20th, this -- the history books in a hundred years, there's going to be, hopefully, it's going to be explained to everyone and to future america. now, i have one thing to say, and that is this: democrats, you -- oh,'m sorry, i'm jus so upset. this whole thing has just been awful.

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