> the evidence indicates that effort and money have been expended to cover moral failure. >> if jim bakkerhn hush money, what else has he been doing with the ptl money? >> do you worry about the investigation? >> not at all. history will prove the bakkers were honest people. >> we interrupt this for a special report. >> jim bakker, the defrocked head of the ptl ministry, has been found guilty on all 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy by a jury in charlotte, north carolina. >> he kept selling lifetime partnerships at heritage u.s., even though they were joef sold. the heritage grand hotel could only accommodate 25,000 partnerships but 65,000 were sold. and for the bunk house partnerships, about 7,000 were sold for a building that had only eight rooms. >> jim and bakker's ptl club was sent $15 a year. >> i don't have enough to even live on. >> bakker could be sentenced to 120 years in prison and fined over $5 million. >> i would say i feel sad, but encouraged in god. >> tammy bakker said she can best describe her feelings in song. ♪ on christ the solid rock i stand ♪ ♪ all other ground is sin

keeps quiet on the incident. >> efforts and money have been ex pended to cover moral failure. >> if jim bakkeressica hahn hu"hush money." what else had he been doing >> history will prove the bakker is a great people. >> jim bakker had been found guilty of all 24 counts of fraud in north carolina. >> he kept a lifetime partnership even though he knew they were over sole. >> the heritage grand hotel can accommodate 25,000 partnerships but 65 thousands were foes. for the lower bunk house partnership about 7,000 were sould f sold. >> the club $15 a month for 15 years. she thought by giving it to them god would ease pain from her husband. >> i would say i feel sad but encouraging god. >> tammie bakker confessed her feelings in songs. >> it is not over until it is over. this cnn original series, "the eighties eighties" brought to you by men's wear house. i have a blog called "daddy doing work", it's funny that i've been in the news for being a dad. windows 10 is great because i need to keep organized. school, grocery shopping. my face can unlock this computer. that's crazy. macbooks are not able to

. >> at the same time, donald trump, met with jim bakker, former official, jim bakker during difficultime. he's meeting tomorrow with another person that hillary clinton has praised in the past. he seems to be more mainstream and being more acceptable to the traditional leaders and leaders of the republican party. >> before tim bakker had that meeting with donald trump, he testified at a hearing at the senate foreign relations committee and was out by marco rubio of some of the policies they were talking about and dangerous suggestions of taking apart nato of our strongest alliance. jim bakker's response to that is almost unbelievable. i cannot remember his exact words, he thought it would be dangerous and creating in security for the american people. it would be interesting to see where jim bakker is coming out. his estimation about bob gates and michael hayden, all respected republicans who understand national security is that this is a reckless and dangerous guy. we had a situation where london just elected the first muslims to be the mayor of london, sadiq khan who's a accomplished

it was persuasive and it persuaded not people just like me, but people like: powell, people like jim bakker, people like the president of the united states, george w. bush, john mccain, you can impugn my credentials all you want, but i think you will have a harder time of impugning their credentials. chairman: it is my job to question and by the way, i don't understand and you haven't told me how it makes any difference whether it is in guantanamo or south carolina? can you tell me a difference? mr. gude: guantanamo is a symbol of the torture and abuse that occurred during the bush and ministry and in that prison and in other prisons. is not simply propaganda against guantanamo and it is not simply associate with the fact that there are military detainees there. there is nothing wrong with that. there was a no propaganda associated with the charleston naval barracks -- chairman: so when we moved these prisoners to south carolina and the propaganda moves to south carolina, that would then justify and validate the governor's concerns -- mr. gude: i don't think there is a way to validate that

jim bakker and george mitchell were winning the lifestyle achievement.he toughest thing was to find somebody who could tell a president they were wrong. and what was i thought most apparent in this report was that there was no one around her who wrong, people tried to raise questions they were told to be -- those are ominous traits for a president. >> secretary bob gates said the same thing in an interview, we asked, didn't somebody tell you that this was wrong? no, because it was allowed. this report says it wasn't. >> it wasn't business as usual. it was not approved. and when two professionals in state went to hillary's people and did say, you know, we're concerned about this hacking. this isn't as it should be. there were literally told, don't come to us say. that is terrible for a future the president. one good thing, inspector generals or inspectors general in washington, d.c. consistently do good work. nobody got it near the bottom of the story, state ig did a good job. >> i'm sorry, go ahead. i instead of -- this was a great week for donald trump

rose: which is why jim bakker said to george bush, "get the hell out."ark: i'll think it's anything close to what it was with her and barack obama eight years ago -- i don't think it's anything close to what it was with her and barack obama. i think putting things back together will be substantially easier. rose: why has she not pick up the phone to call him to tell him not to get out of the race because that's his decision, but to try to appeal to him. john: candidates locked in combat do not talk to each other that way and she was someone who was told to get out of the race will -- out of the race in 2008 over and over again and she thought it was her right to fight to the end. ofis true that the level intensity and bitterness is less than a 2008, but here's the truth -- on the worst day in 2008, barack obama did not think hillary clinton was a corrupt crook, and bernie sanders basically thinks hillary clinton is a corrupt crook. he thinks she is everything about the oligarchy and ruling class and governing class that he finds corrupt and despicable. o

with speaker paul ryan last week and former secretary of state jim bakker. always a double-edged sword. it seems he is trying to make nice with the establish he spent 9 to 10 months railing on the trail. >> we expected that pivot to come. jacob outside henry kissinger's office and pointing out trump went over to kissinger's home on the upper eastside. >> thanks so much. we're also pointing out details in trump fashion, i filed my pfd, i'm proud to says the largest in the history of the fec. despite the fact i'm aloud extensi extensions, i have filed my report, 104 pages on time. bernie sanders on the other hand has requested an extension for his small report, the difference between a businessman and all talk no action politicians that have failed the american people far too long. what we've learned from trump's financial disclosure. besides the swipe at sanders pretty obvious, the numbers for donald trump, what are the takeaways? >> this is a document required for all presidential candidates to submit to the federal election commission, not the tax return th

and over, to me much of what was said is -- reflects what i think bush 41, the first bush, and jim bakker today esupposed so i thought it was more of an affirmation. >> you think it's somewhat harkening back to an earlier era of republican foreign policy that became behind the scenes after 9/11, he's harkening back to an older tradition? >> i wouldn't even use the word older. i would say more mature. >> the u.s. high-profile either -- u.s./china -- >> i'm sorry? >> are you worried that the u.s. military presence in south china sea may ants bash u.s./china -- >> i think if we don't do it often -- so it's a big event you report on and everyone else does. i think the problem is we're not doing it enough. i think we ought to be within those 12 nautical miles weekly. we have 60% of our naval assets in that part of the world, and so unless it's routine, which it should become, then yes, you have though notion that, as was mentioned here today in the hearing, that things quickly could escalate and be problematic. as long as it's understood that it's a routine thing for our u.s. navy to come one