of the $1.5 billion grossed annually, just three, pat robertson, jimmy swaggert and jim bakker took inn. >> prime timers say they need the money to stay on the air. and they stay on the air to raise money. for the kind of electronic equipment any network would be glad to own. >> i believe god wants us in the next 30 days to have every one of these bills paid in full, and ptl can live if we pay our bills. >> it pays the bills if we all just do something. >> as televangelism grows, jim bakker understands that preaching on television is not just about standing up and giving a fire and brimstone speech, he understands in the age of television, the johnny carson approach to televangelism big more intimate, showing lifestyle and beautiful family is essential because it brings people in. brilliant entrepreneur and salesman of himself. >> and here are jim and tammy! >> their appeal is powerful. last year, a million people responded to the bakker's constant request for money. >> how many do you have right now? >> just about 30. >> 30 what? >> silver 7,000 clubs. >> that's $90,000. >> praise god

although, he does look a little like jim bakker. [ laughter ] >> and this is the one i'll be jumping. >> does this seem fair, folks? [ laughter ] now, what are the-- we said that-- >> well, what we do, is we set the frog down and it's the best of three jumps. so, if you want to-- >> you say the best of three jumps? they get one jump? >> one, two, three. >> oh, three hops. >> and then we measure that distance and whoever goes the furthest distance in three jumps-- >> in the three jumps? >> wins the contest. >> you cannot touch the frog once we put it down? >> well, you can when it's on the starting pad but you can't touch it once it makes the first jump. >> but you can encourage the frog? >> absolutely. >> all right. >> and here's what we're going to do. >> have you had more frog? i haven't the slightest idea. [ laughter ] do what you might add? >> okay, i guess we'll do it on three. one. two. three. >> go,y! >> hey! ho! [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> obviously, i won. he jumped somewhere in the studio. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i think he's behind the box over there. this is fascinating

we had in the beginning of reagan, meese, beaver and jim bakker as chief of staff. it, woulded, you're getting everybody together. >> is it going to work with these two individuals? especially given steve bannon's resume or history? someone who is on the alt-right side? >> it can work, but the chief of staff has to be primary. what steve bannon's role is, i think, is to reassure those people in the trump coalition, who are the true believers that gives president-elect trump the opportunity to make some compromises and deals and win things for america without his base going off the deep end. >> you think steve bannon is there for the base? >> i think he is there to give the president the flexibility to put together some compromises and deals, things don't happen overnight. >> there's a lot of hand ringing about steve bannon. how can he appoint someone like that? >> does that give you pause? >> of course, if the personal stories are accurate. we have to figure those out. there's a way of clearing the deck on those. being in government compared to being in a campaign a

and we were informed by jim bakker that he walked into the white house. >> i was at the white house.on coming in was incomplete. they weren't fully up to date on what was happening with the president's condition. and then when they found out how serious it was, they wanted to reassure everybody. >> coming indirectly from one of the surgeons is that the bullet as we have reported once before did miss the president's heart. missed by an inch. >> he told mrs. reagan, honey, i forgot to duck. >> what? >> i forgot to duck. and then when he got into the operating room, he looked at the doctors and he said, please tell me you're republicans. >> reagan relied on this group of advisers. jim baker as his chief of staff, a really skilled, shrewd political insider, ed meese, a counselor to the president, and michael deaver in charge of the media operations. they ran the white house. >> the assassination attempt and aftermath elevated ronald reagan's popularity to a new high. the latest nbc news/associated press poll shows his job rating jumped ten points. >> reagan understood that he was getting

although, he does look a little like jim bakker. [ laughter ] >> and this is the one i'll be jumping. >> does this seem fair, folks? [ laughter ] now, what are the-- we said that-- >> well, what we do, from the beginning of the first to the end of the third jump. so, if you want to-- >> you say the best of three jumps? they get one jump? >> one, two, three. >> oh, three hops. >> and then we measure that distance and whoever goes the furthest distance in three jumps-- >> in the three jumps? >> wins the contest. >> you cannot touch the frog once we put it down? >> well, you can when it's on the starting pad but you can't touch it once it makes the first jump. >> but you can encourage the frog? >> absolutely. >> all right. >> and here's what we're going to do. >> have you had more frog? i haven't the slightest idea. [ laughter ] do what you might add? >> okay, i guess we'll do it on three. three. >> go, baby! >> whoa! >> hey! ho! [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> obviously, i won. he jumped somewhere in the studio. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i think he's behind the box over there. this is fasc

jim bakker as chief of staff, ed meese in counselor role and mike -- son to the reagans in the kushner role. every president has a jared kushner. sometimes in reagan's case if someone is like a son to them. it is an old friend. all the way back to wilson and fdr all the way through the kennedy administration and on to today with valorie jarrett. it is always something like that and always good for the president because he has ultimate trust in that person's loyalty and judgment. and it is a good thing. i happen too know him and think would be great in the job. >> back in the bush administration you had karl rove and -- but also chiefs of staff. not necessarily troika. people with president's ear. >> protocol is thrown out the window now. you have a businessman in the white house who's not going to conform and worry about what the press is saying. and i think the american people asked for that. so it's refreshing. he's going make it fun to watch politics again for all of us covering it. [laughter ] >> emma looks thrilled. >> are we having fun yet? >> all the talk, donald trump pushing b

it's mel tillis trying to reserve a hotel room. [ laughter ] the bakkers were in the news again, jim and tammy bakker. they were on "entertainment tonight," a few nights ago. did you see that? she came by my house, she said, and left me a note in the mailbox. tammy bakker! and for all the things i say about her, she comes up and she said what she really wanted in life, she wanted to get a job as a spokesperson for a cosmetics company. phew. well, she finally got it. she's going to be a spokesperson for andy granatelli's 40 weight mascara. [ cheers and applause ] are on vacation out here, and probably you are thinking about christmas shopping. you should go into beverly hills and go to rodeo drive, pick up some really great bargains there. rodeo drive in beverly hills is having their big day after thanksgiving day sale, where everything is priced 40 percent off their regular thousand percent markup. [ laughter ] have you been in some of those stores? do you shop in those stores? [ laughter ] and i said to the clerk, "how much is the beautiful tie in the window?" and he said, "can you a

a jim bakker who came in with both bushes to some degree, and some who has been here, who knows the players. there are 4,000 political appointees that have to be named. 1,000 of those have to get senate confirmation. there's an enormous amount of work to be done. and at the commander in chief level, we know that donald trump had the backing of a lot of people in the mili. generals behind all of that, but we have not a clue what his real intentions are there and i suspect he doesn't either. >> and jon karl, we talked about the cabinet. one possible washington hand would be the former speaker of the house newt gingrich but take us inside that meeting with president obama and donald trump today. probably won't get into a lot of substance but we do know that donald trump wants to undo and right away a lot of president >> and he can undo a lot because this is a president who used the power of executive order more than any previous president. some of the big ones on the environment, climate change, those things can be done really with a signature of a president trump. also, i would expect because

we are here with jim bakker, who is president ford's national campaign manager. mr. baker, let me ask you this. did things go fraet e pretty well according to game plan tonight? tell us how the president prepared for this? how hard did he study? was he nervous when he went up there? i would be. talking to 120 million people or however many. >> i last talked to the president last night. he was not nervous at all. he was quite relaxed. he was self-assured. from looking at him when he first went on stage, it would be my judgment that he was quite relaxed and quite confident and quite self-assured. >> any surprises tonight? >> no surprises, no. i think the president did an excellent job. i think he was in command. he was decisive, and more than anything else, doug, i think he answered the questions. he was specific. >> tell us about the preparation. did president ford sit back and have people bounce questions to him in sort of a gam plan way? >> there was some of that, yes, but he studied. he worked hard. he worked on his preparation, and he was well prepared. sure, ther

jim and tammy bakker's dog, revlon-- [ laughter ] dies in freak electrical accident, when it mistakes the air conditioner in his dog house for a fire hydrant. [ laughter ] would you believe they have a bathroom graffiti calendar? of course you do. let's see what's in this one. august 20th, 1935. i wasn't aware of this. the father of modern graffiti, f. scott fitzstall, is awarded the nobel prize for literature, for penning the immortal couplet entitled, "beans, beans, the magical fruit." remember that? [ laughter ] if you don't think they're specialized, friends, take a look at this one. the toll-booth collectors calendar. let's see what goodies await us, here. september tenth, 1978, new jersey turnpike toll collector roland ripley moonlights as a male exotic dancer, but is fired from his toll-booth job when he shows up wearing briefs with an exact change basket attached. [ laughter ] are we going to get a big call for this one? how many puppeteers calendars are they going to sell? not many, i warrant. oh, good heavens. june 20th, 1968, muppet creator jim henson-- we all know jim hens

jim and tammy bakker's dog, revlon-- [ laughter ] dies in freak electrical accident, when it mistakes the air conditioner in his dog house for a fire hydrant. [ laughter ] would you believe they have a bathroom graffiti calendar? of course you do. let's see what's in this one. august 20th, 1935. i wasn't aware of this. the father of modern graffiti, f. scott fitzstall, is awarded the nobel prize for literature, for penning the immortal couplet entitled, "beans, beans, the magical fruit." remember that? if you don't think they're specialized, friends, take a look at this one. the toll-booth collectors calendar. let's see what goodies await us, here. september tenth, 1978, new jersey turnpike toll collector roland ripley moonlights as a male exotic dancer, but is fired from his toll-booth job when he shows up wearing briefs with an exact change basket attached. [ laughter ] are we going to get a big call for this one? how many puppeteers calendars are they going to sell? not many, i warrant. oh, good heavens. june 20th, 1968, muppet creator jim henson-- we all know jim henson? while giv