> the evidence indicates that effort and money have been expended to cover moral failure. >> if jim bakkerush money, what else has he been doing with the ptl money? >> do you worry about the investigation? >> not at all. history will prove the bakkers were honest people. >> we interrupt this for a special report. >> jim bakker, the defrocked head of the ptl ministry, has been found guilty on all 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy by a jury in charlotte, north carolina. >> he kept selling lifetime partnerships at heritage u.s., even though they were oversold. the heritage grand hotel could only accommodate 25,000 partnerships but 65,000 were sold. and for the lower priced bunk house partnerships, about 7,000 were sold for a building that had only eight rooms. >> jim and bakker's ptl club was sent $15 a month for years. she thought it would ease the pain of she and her ailing husband. >> i have helped make millionaires of those people when i don't have enough to live on. >> bakker could be sentenced to 120 years in prison and fined over $5 million. >> i would say i feel sad, but encouraged in

ronald reagan, you need to empower a white house chief and he needs to fine his over equivalent of jim bakker or leon panneta, somebody who can come into the oval office and say twitter is great, it is a bully pulpit, wonderful, but you have got to run it by me first. >> it's also childish, let's face it. it's childish because the aspect is i know you are, but what am i? that's how twitter comes off. they are effective ways to use twitter but not ps policy. it's bad more faerk, fake news, i know you are but what am i, here's what sean spieser said about trump and the administration. >> i think the president is pleased with his team and he has arow just agenda that he looks forward with congress to get done to achieve results for the people of america. ultimately the best messenger is the president himself, he is the best messenger for what he wants to articulate. the american people resoundingly chose him as the president because he understands the frustrations and concerns and the uls have a of the american people and he is the best person to communicate that. >> do you think you have done a