the bakkers were honest people. >> we interrupt this program for an nbc news special report. >> jim bakker of the ptl ministry, has been found guilty on all 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy by a jury in charlotte, north carolina. >> bakker kept selling lifetime partnerships at heritage usa, even though they were oversold. the heritage grand hotel could accommodate only 25,000 partnerships, but 65,000 were sold. and for the lower house bunk house partnerships, about 7,000 were sold for a building that had only eight rooms. >> jichl and tammy baker's ptl club was sent $15 a year. she thought that would ease the pain of her and her husband. >> i have made billionaires out of those people when i don't even have enough to live on. >> bakker could be sentenced to 120 years in prison and fined over $5 million. >> i would say i feel sad, but encouraged in god. >> tammy bakker said she can best describe her feelings in song. ♪ on christ the solid rock i stand ♪ ♪ all other ground is sinking sand ♪ it's not over till it's over. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits... ...your budget? tripadvisor no

gephart and the time ronald reagan and jim bakker accepted the decision. four years elapsed.did it in four days. we have a lot of amendments we would still like to put forward. we're willing to work into the night. but we don't want the surprise coming tomorrow morning that again, all of the suggestions we've had have been for naut. coupled with the fact that we've watched the revenue forecast be altered. understanding how difficult it is as i have said repeatedly, to squiz a size 12 dpoot into a size 7 shoe. our amendments have been routinely swatted away. when we sought again rgenuinely try to approve the package in front of us. i hope you can give us an idea as to how we will proceed. and you might want to tell us what transpired during the day to bring this change in schedule. >> so, mr. neal, we have adhered exactly to the schedule you and i agreed on. you asked we would do this during the daytime hours, which we have. you asked we would find ways to accelerate these amendments. we tried several approaches there. we said we would role the votes for every member's conveni

say that you remind me an awful lot of the bible thumpers i grew up with and a lot like jim and tammy faye bakkereds to be taken out of congress and, yes, they need to rip the scab off of whatever they have in the house where they pay sexual harassment things from tax dollars. and they give the member representation but not the accuser and, yes, he's obviously a danger to others. he's a danger to himself. he needs to be removed from congress because he's not capable of being in congress. and people who love him and people who care for him need to gather round him now and tell him it's time to go home. but when he goes home it's not george h.w. bush shot out of the skies and into the waters of the pacific. judge the man by his 93 years. service to america. judge john conyers by his 88, 89 years and his service to america and get him out of congress now. >> it's such a good point you make. when you're talking about men in their late 80s, early 90s, you're talking about people who are suffering from health problems. i know i just had one of my closest friends, diane smith, over recently. we both rec