. >> a chilling eyewitness account, and i want to bring back jim cavanagh who is an msnbc analysts. >> as sarah reported on the scene earlier, when you heard the explosion and the gunfire that followed and then you reported the ambulance leaving the scene, and that was s.w.a.t. most likely making an explosive entry or using a diversion airy devi device, and now they are moving quickly to get the wounded and that's what we are seeing with the ambulances leaving. orlando police s.w.a.t. looks like, has, you know, made entry, either killed the suspect or wounded them or the police may have killed himself after he was shot by police, and they are reporting the assailant is dead. that's critical for everybody now and now they can get the wounded treated, and s.w.a.t. will open the doors and get the paramedics in and get the wounded moved out of there, unless it's an obvious fatality, people will be treated by the paramedics. and then we are in a long crime scene processing. finding out who is the person or persons and what were they doing this for? is it a revenge or hate motive, a terrori