tom winter, barbara mcquade and jim cavanaugh are with me.om winter, they filled in some gaps but not a lot. >> not a lot, chuck. yes. it would be great. i don't understand why questions weren't allowed to be asked or answered there, particularly because it would be great to get more of a sense of the ideology here. unfortunately, we don't yet have the court documents. i believe i heard the attorney general say that it was the wolverine watchmen and announcing the arrest of seven more people. that's typical in these type of cases because sometimes the states have the ability to make charges that the federal authorities can't just because of law and the statutes between the state and federal government. i think it's interesting to note, all these men fit a typical profile that we see which is mid to late 30s, early 40s. the possession of weapons charges and the commission of a felony are important charges because those carry mandatory sentences that are stacked on top of whatever they are convicted with in their initial charges, the violations