so we go to jim cavenaugh has been with us, as well as u lucy kafanov who has been on the scene.e language is changing. >> yes, richard. you have heard from the london mayor calling it a terrorist attack, and the prime minister calling it a terrorist incident, but i am standing here with a local resident, and i know that it has been a long night for you and you have not slept in 24 hours, but you witnessed the perpetrator waving his hand saying he was proud, and can you describe what you saw? >> after the bangs, and some crashes, and people shouting and some people trying to help the victim, and there was men there underneath the van, and there was a man in the wheelchair and is some children -- >> underneath the van? >> yes, a man underneath the van, and people were terrified. most people, we have had the different months terrorist attacks in different place, and we had a feeling that this would not stop. so basically, it is terrorism, and the terrorizing the entire community. >> and what did this attacker look like? who was he? >> he is a white man, and some people say differen

jim cavenaugh is still with us. jim, we are showing some of the video from the streets closeby to the location, and the reason why we are talking about the mosque, et is because it is very u much close to what london metropolitan police say that this incident happened at, and not necessarily that it is the target or necessarily that it was involved, but only that it was closeby. jim, what are you seeing from the pieces of video here, because we don't have a lot yet, and it is early on in the process, and we can see the vehicles in the streets and lights and not a lot of movement necessarily from law enforcement personnel or pedestrians or those who live in the area, and what are you seeing, jim? >> they are protecting a crime scene. you know, we can't tell exactly from this spot where that little spot is, but they are protecting the crime scene probably off to the left side as we are viewing the cars of the police cars. they are working it forensically. you know, like malcolm said, and i totally agree, it could be a

what's going to happen after this is going to depend on the intelligence, like jim cavenaugh said. the first thing we do is go through their pockets. i've done that with suicide bomber repains. you go through and you try to get any information you can on that individual. the registration of the vehicle. any pocket litter. things that are on that person. you know, the knife, the weapons. if there's firearms, anything. you run that down as fast as possible. that's when the detectives of scotland yard and the so-19, special operations force of the metropolitan police, that's when they will really kick it into gear. then what they're going to do is, like jim said, they're going to scrub this against the entire national terrorism investigation data base. because they may have actually seen an indication but hadn't pulled the trigger on these individuals, or they may be watching other individuals who may be mobilizing because of this incident. and it's quite possible that this is tied to calls by other terrorist groups, isis in particular, for attacks during the holy month of ramadan, wh

jim cavenaugh, if you are still with us, i wanted to ask you this, as you have been looking at the pictures of the casualties, and that is what this community could be very concerned about, as i mentioned earlier to liucy, these might b folks they know. i have been watching some of the picture pictures there that, okay, we are getting this in that reuters, that london police say that one dead in the incident, and that is according to reuters and now nbc news is confirming that london police say one dead in the incident, and this is what you and i have been watching as we get new pictures, and what we are doing is to put it in so that the viewers can see what happened. as you have been looking at the pictures of not only the stretchers of the pieces of blue cloth on the ground, and it would appear to be over individuals in this picture h e here, and others being wheeled away with what appears to be oxygen. what is some of the takeaways that you have had in seeing those? >> just that it is a homicide crime scene is what it looks like, and looked like to us earlier, and now it is confirmed by