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we ask jim chilton what he thinks of large scale deportations. say i'm not sure that's exactly what he's saying. he's saying a watch or the port people are crammed. i don't think you can de park 10000000. 15000000 people, i don't think he physically do it and i don't think we really want to. so roll the polarization and both the policies, those closest to this issue seemed genuinely torn on some of the central questions down here on the edge of america. that report from the chief international editor, richard walcott, who joins us now from washington. welcome, richard is migration. this big an issue is the confidence and making out as well, i think. and so if you were with us in tucson, the biggest city, and the kind of boarder regence of an arizona, just when we with add the other day, you would come away with that impression. so we went into the city and spoke to a lot of people who are the boasting. desa revising is already underway in arizona, and we went to 2 different component stations to make sure that we got kind of a different sort of s