mccabe: rod and i were discussing the firing of jim comey and why jim had been fired and whether or not the president was -- there was more to it, essentially, then the reasons in his memo. in the course of that conversation that rod first offered to wear a wire to the white house. carl: do you remember his words? mr. mccabe: i remember him saying, pointing out the fact that he didn't get searched when he went into the west wing, so he felt he could wear a recording device. carl: so there could be nothing to the story given your description that this was some kind of joke. mr. mccabe: it absolutely was not a joke. he raised it in front of others in later meetings, pointed out to people that he made this offer to me. i thought it was an unbelievably bad idea. i kind of put the whole thing aside by saying, i'll talk to the investigative team, and if that is something they want to do, i will ask you for that authority, and of course we never did. i remember going back and telling my team at fbi headquarters, that included jim baker and other senior leaders -- the deputy attorney general of

>> so rod and i were discussing of course the filing of jim comey and why jim had been fired, and whether or not the president was, you know, it was more to it essentially than the reasons that rod memorialized in his memo. in the course of that conversation that rod first offered to wear a wire into the white house. >> do you remember his words? >> i do remember him saying that -- point of the fact he didn't get searched when he went into the west wing and so, therefore, he felt he could wear at recording device and no one would know he had it. >> so there could be nothing to the story, given your description that this was some kind of joke. >> it absolutely was not a joke, no. in fact, he raised it in front of others in later meetings and select point at the people that he made this offer. i atnt first thought it was an unbelievably bad idea. i kind of put the whole thing aside by saying, i'll talk to the investigative team and if that something to want to do, and i will come back to you and ask you for that authority, and, of course, we never did. i remember going back and told him my

the other three witnesses were jim comey, and loretta lynch.went to testify behind closed doors before these prominent members of congress. it was clear there was a lot at least some sort of surveillance going on our me in london. the key question is was that based on facts and a legal basis or was there something more insidious going on here. in my opinion, and i think my testimony for anybody who is interested, they can google it it's public now, will see i actually notified authorities my meetings with these people including the australian government because of how bizarre they are. i thought they were up to something they shouldn't have been doing and they were opening spying on me. these meetings were some of the most of consequential events surrounding this investigation william barr and john durham are spearheading. now that mueller's testimony has come to a close and the next chapter opens. these events will have to be scrutinized from a different perspective. trish: what do you think italy has to do with it. attorney general barr and j

jim comey told me this on the record for the book he never heard the content deep state. but to him it means, yes, we do have a deep state. and thank god we do. we have a professional bureaucracy in this country who take an oath of allegiance to the constitution of the united states. they work for the people of the united states. they do not work for the white house or the president. and, in fact, we have a constitutional system of checks and balances intended to curb the power of the white house. these people in my view you can call them the deep state, but they are patriots for standing up for what they should be doing and what the constitution calls for. trump's response is literally to prosecute them. he now has a justice department that he has bent to his will. we are out pursuing criminal investigations against comey, mccabe, anybody who dared to defy him is literally terrified. >> they were trying to investigate russian interference. >> they are doing their job. >> they only make contact with him where he was involved in russian interference. is that right? >> i th

>> so, rod and i were discussing, of course, the firing of jim comey and why jim had been fired. and whether or not the president was -- you know, there was more to it, essentially, than the reasons rod memorialized in his memo. so, it's in the course of that conversation that rod first offered to wear a wire into the white house. >> do you remember his words? >> i do remember him saying that he -- pointing out the fact that he didn't get searched when he went into the west wing and and so, therefore, he felt he could wear a recording device and no one would know he had it. >> so there could be nothing to the story, given your description, that this was some kind of joke? >> it was absolutely not a joke. in fact, he raised it in front of others in later meetings. and so pointed out to people that he had made this offer to me. i, of course, thought it was an unbelievably bad idea. i kind of put it -- put the whole thing aside by saying, well i'll talk to the investigative team. if that's something they want to do, i'll come back to you and ask you for that authority. of course, we

jim comey wanted the server. i don't think it's an impeachable offense for bill barr to also want the server. i don't have any idea where it is, but i don't think it's an impeachable offense to say, if you know where it is, tell us. there was a point in time that we all wanted to know about that. so what's the statute of limitations on interfere with with our 2016 elections. i don't know. i've read taylor's opening statement, but i would need to follow up with questions. i would need to also watch what other members ask and significantly what the cross-examination would have looked like before i could draw any conclusions. >> brennan: all right, trey gowdy, thank you for your time today. >> yes, ma'am. >> brennan: when you humble yourself under the mighty hand of god, in due time he will exalt you. hi, i'm joel osteen. i'm excited about being with you every week. i hope you'll tune in. you'll be inspired, you'll be encouraged. i'm looking forward to seeing you right here. you are fully loaded and completely equip

the one person i wish i could talk to is jim comey. good luck with that, mccabe thought. the guy he just fired. there is a sequence of events where rosenstein offers to wear a wire and secretly record the president and invoked the 25th amendment, all which is true. but by the end of the mueller investigation he is a new person. he has survived. there are two occasions the justice department was drafting press releases saying trump was going to fire him. he goes to the white house, he meets along with trump he comes out, his job is intact. as soon as the mueller report is delivered he and the new attorney general Ãrush to state that trump is been exonerated. there is no crime, no obstruction of justice case to be made. this is not with the mueller report said, mueller wrote a letter to that effect as you probably know. the mueller report was far more damning than anything that barr and rosenstein was willing to say.this is an example it well-intentioned Ãdrawn into this web of falsehoods of irresponsible if not illegal behavior and then are asked to protect the president a

the other three witnesses were jim comey, and loretta lynch.went to testify behind closed doors before these prominent members of congress. it was clear there was a lot at least some sort of surveillance going on our me in london. the key question is was that based on facts and a legal basis or was there something more insidious going on here. in my opinion, and i think my testimony for anybody who is interested, they can google it it's public now, will see i actually notified authorities my meetings with these people including the australian government because of how bizarre they are. i thought they were up to something they shouldn't have been doing and they were opening spying on me. these meetings were some of the most of consequential events surrounding this investigation william barr and john durham are spearheading. now that mueller's testimony has come to a close and the next chapter opens. these events will have to be scrutinized from a different perspective. trish: what do you think italy has to do with it. attorney general barr and j

so jim comey is someone that really brings racket brewing to the rescue reputation of the fbi. that's undeniable. with any of this question about the policies you see your power, stop trump, to push this russia hoax, though hires into mccabe to be the deputy. how does the cast of characters around james comey come together. is that his doing, is an internal process roaches kind of inevitable. because have all of these people with less politics and animus, towards the duly elected president, how do they all get into the apple echelon. the cat happened by anything other than purpose. totally surrounded himself with sycophants and it didn't matter their qualifications i talked to several former top fbi officials who said he was not qualified to be deputy fbi director and then eventually on the firing of comey acting fbi director. he even though, i've a spouse spouse that's involved in politics there's a lot of people in 21st american century that have this question of having a spouse is so politically active. yet in the commonwealth of virginia, even people you think the people wo

i will never forget that jim comey didn't bother as the fbi director didn't bother to see president-electmp until two couple months after he was elected. the whole world was there, came to the transition except the fbi director wanted to keep his job. why was he so busy here in washington doing what he was doing? look, i just want to say this last thing on behalf of the president of the white house. this obituary was a disgrace and i would ask "the washington post" to close your eyes and pretend that al-baghdadi worked in the trump white house and go rewrite the obituary. i bet you would not be as kind. >> martha: kelly and, thank you very much. we will get into "the washington post" headline tonight. also here tonight, bret baier is the host of "special report" and author of "three days at the brink," fdr's daring gamble to win at world war ii. a great read is all of bret 'his books are. great to have you here tonight. i want to ask you if you saw what's going on in the news all of this with regard to what kelly ann and i were talking about, and that's this new nancy pelosi move to actua

jim comey has made comments about them publicly.ave, we both have written books that touched on the issues, so the circumstances behind the case are widely known. they were entirely validated by the special counsel investigation. >> tucker: got that? jim comey and i already wrote best-selling books explaining our side of things so what is there to investigate? mccabe seemed completely serious as he said this. how dare the justice department not accept my word at face value despite the fact i was fired for lying? you would have to be lacking a certain, what's the term here, self awareness, to make a case like that on television but mccabe was happy to carry it out. by the way, cnn seemed to agree with him wholeheartedly. certainly a common view in washington. the story of this morning's "washington post" claimed unnamed federal bureaucrats grousing that they may be subject to the same oversight the rest of us could expect if we ever stepped out of line. here's a direct quote. current and former intelligence and law enforcement offici

the one person i wish i could talk to is jim comey. good luck with that. this is a guy he just fired. there is a sequence of events where rosenstein offers to wear a wire to secretly record the president. by the end of the molar investigation, he is the new person. he has survived. two occasions where the department said that he had fired him. he goes to the white house. he comes out. as soon as the molar report is delivered, he and the new attorney general rushed to his aid. trump has been exonerated. there is no crime. there is no obstruction of justice case to be made. this is not what the molar report said. the molar report was far more damning than anything that barring rosenstein was willing to say. this is a classic example of well-intentioned bureaucrats who get into the trump orbit. drawn into this web of falsehood of irresponsible, if not illegal behavior. and then asked to protect the president. rosenstein lied about the wire in the 25th amendment. trump had leverage over him to fire him whenever he wanted. >> i just want to address the issue of

the one person i wish i could talk to is jim comey. good luck with that, mccabe thought.e guy he just fired. there is a sequence of events where rosenstein offers to wear a wire and secretly record the president invoked the 25th amendment, all of which is true. but by the end of the mueller investigation he is a new person. he has survived. there were two occasions where the justice department was drafting press releases saying trump was going to fire him. he goes to the white house and needs along with trump and comes out his job is intact. as soon as the mueller report is delivered he and the new attorney general, bill bar rush to state that trump has been exonerated that there is no crime there is no obstruction of justice case to be made. this is not what the mueller report said. mueller wrote a letter to that effect as you probably know. the mueller report was far more damning than anything that bar in rosenstein was willing to say. this is a classic example of well-intentioned bureaucrats who get into the trump orbit were drawn into this web of falsehoods of irrespo

and we did a little checking on jim comey. it wasn't a name i was familiar with and i'm not a lawyer, but most of the checking we did, you know, he was a bit of a -- politically, a chameleon. he would tell us he loved president bush and he loved his policies, and then you would talk to liberals, if they would say, oh, james comey is politically one of us, he's a political foe of president bush. so you kind of got this hodgepodge story, and one person who knew him well summarized him well by saying the best thing to know about james comey is he's about james comey. >> guest: yeah. you know, and i saw it on early on when he was a u.s. attorney back in the 1990s, and i attended the news conference that he held about some case that he had launched. i remember my camera areman walked out -- cameraman walked out with me to the van after the news conference, and he said, wow, have you ever seen a guy who loves himself that much? and i always remember that because i then saw it vividly in my research for the case and following the cas

in 2016 when democrats basically say the fbi was the antichrist and jim comey was antichrist and when the six months they were hailing bob mueller former director of the fbi as the second coming and so on and so forth. when we get into this environment we have these very, very heated political dynamics going on it's difficult for people to maintain any kind of political -- >> thank you all for being here. a special welcome to the folks joining us on c-span. we're looking forward to a spirited debate in our panel following opening remarks from secretary wilbur ross. i am pleased and privileged to introduce the 39th secretary of commerce wilbur ross

i heard you are part of the group that did not like jim comey and what he did in these cases and that they rejected to the way they work these cases. is that right? and i said no sir. that is not right for i worked very closely with jim comey and we worked in those cases together i was a part of most of those decisions and i agreed with most of them. people have disagreements with the way we handle our decisions but i was a part of that team perk i don't thank you are correct. so that's what we do. then i realized that was my loyalty test. >> the idea is they wanted to go out and have fun and demonstrate you could do this but they wanted to have to light their own campfires not just a blanket on the ground they had all these different amenities like a refrigerated car powered by edison batteries to have fresh dairy and chefs making gourmet meals and then they would dress and freshly ironed clothes. but america was so grateful to them it didn't matter. the point out one - - the point is we are traveling. you can do it also. canadians head to the polls to vote their federal election the

jim comey at the top with brennan and clapper made sure anything involving the democrats was going tovered up. if she had gotten elected we never would have known about any of this. lou: there is so much we still don't know, but i have to say as we are watching the so-called impeachment inquiry moving through the ship's star chamber, i don't know what's going on. volker is there. all of these low-level people testifying. it's just stunning to me. what do you make of getting these transcripts, turning hearings into transcripts into depositions, if you will, providing no access. and we are learning nothing more about the situation in ukraine. >> here is what the equivalent is. it's as if you have a defendant on trial, the president, and the prosecutor gets to have the witness questions outside of the jury, forget about cross-examination. the prosecutor gets to come in and give snippets to the jury of what the witness said. basic due process is gone. i'm so he based for the media. where are the editorials saying hold on, guys, you should be fair in this process. i'm terribly he based. i

hise've seen in relationship with jeff sessions and jim comey, he thinks the function of others in government is to watch his political skirts. ukrainerecent deal with and trying to use the leverage he has from suspending $400 million of military aid to get the president to investigate his most likely rival, joe biden, that is over the top in terms of the definitions that i mentioned earlier. so i think the house will go ahead. the delicate question is, what are republicans in the senate going to do? there will be no removal unless 20 republicans vote for it. right now they are holding the line. there's probably just a handful of republican votes for removal now. but the polls in the last week ofe shown a slight majority support for impeachment and removal in the country at large. republicans have not signed on yet, but republican senators who are up for reelection, they have to win the general election. if 60% of all people in the country, including democrats, like the idea of removal, those republicans are going to think long and hard before they vote to not remove. all the republicans who

it was sent the day before jim comey testified in 2017 after he was fired. how much of this deep state animus towards trump stems from the firing of comey here? >> your question to ed, who has the most to lose? in the end, this is a review of barack obama's administration in some of the worst abuse of powers we have ever seen emanating from the oval office. who has the most to lose barack obama who keeps walking out of the speeches saying none of my guys got in trouble, and my guys did any wrongdoing. i'd like to see somebody punished for what happened in 2016. 2020, i hate to see it, it's going to be about the lessons we now need to learn from 2016. >> laura: richard? >> i'm glad durham has the ability to get to the bottom of this just like the state department finally did. i was waiting for a segment on the fact that the state department concluded that the hillary clinton thing, this whole email thing was a big nothing. >> laura: 42 people -- >> people at the state department basically said -- >> laura: internal review.w. i believe that. yeah. >> this is do

credible accusation by the trump organization, the trump campaign and get the justice department and jim comey began an investigation of the trump campaign. they are real issues as to why the fbi and cia were involved in the investigation of the trump campaign, was this a coming together to have an investigation of the presidential campaign. when you look at carter page, or an advisor application in the steel dossier all of which were the genesis of the 2016 investigation by comey and all of them. to me it is a necessity. i have great respect for attorney general william barr but i don't care who the attorney general was he has an obligation to investigate what went on in 2016, why this investigation was started on the trump campaign, who was involved, was there any collusion among the intelligence agencies. this should never be repeated again. after two years of investigation it turns out there was nothing so why was it started in the first place. >> katherine herridge is reporting the horwitz report, looking into the genesis of 5 applications has been pushed back because apparently there hav

harry also thought it was okay for jim comey to, quote, bend the rules, the head of the fbi, the endtifies the means. that's not what our forefathers meant either and the president has done nothing against the interests of our country and done everything in favor of it. if anything people need to be looking at joe biden and hunter biden for what hunter biden did and all the money he took from a foreign country. >> the house won't be doing that anytime soon. we will see if they go to impeachment and over to the senate if it makes it there as well, got to convince a lot of folks there that don't seem to be there for now. >> have a good evening. dramatic video shows at all, the pentagon releasing intense footage of us forces leveling abca9's compound. our expert panel takes you inside the raid the took out the top terrorist in the world next. they can do all sorts of things in your name. criminals can use ransomware, spyware, or malware to gain access to information like your name, your birthday, and even your social security number. - [announcer] that's why norton and lifelock are now

she has explained many times stolen by russia, by jim comey, by middle american voters.he point is she deserved to be president and she will be president no matter what you think of that. so instead of retiring, she is planning another presidential run. is that true? it's hard to know. but yesterday on pbs, on "the news hour," send the strongest signal yet that she might be planning and getting into the race. watch this. >> tweeted just this morning and i'm going to quote, "i think crooked hillary clinton should enter the race to try to steal it away from uber left elizabeth warren." >> it remains remarkable how he remains with me so i think there needs to be a rematch. obviously i can beat him again. >> tucker: quentin james is a hillary flan del mcfadden and joins us. everyone is laughing about this. i don't know if she means it seriously, but why wouldn't any good democrat in america be pining for hillary to get in the race? >> hillary was joking, she's being facetious. she's having fun. but when we look at what's happening in the white house, everything she warned us

nancy pelosi putting adam schiff in charge of this impeachment inquiry is exactly what jim comey didn he put peter strzok in part of the trump russia investigation. someone as biased as adam schiff, even democrats would agree peter strzok should have never been running that investigation. michael horowitz said he should never have been running that investigation. nancy pelosi is doing the same thing with putting adam schiff in charge of the investigation. they have already made a determination, they don't care about the facts and the truth and the american people see through it. >> sean: it seems like another boomerang. now we are going back and i've been saying we need to do this, we are getting back to it hillary is rigged investigation, then we are waiting on the pfizer report from the inspector general, after that the counterintelligence report, the durum report -- we probably have people in the obama administration outsourcing intelligence gathering to spy on a candidate, a transition team, president, and other american citizens -- are you confident that italy and great britain,

jim comey made comments publicly, i have, we both wrote books that touched on those issues. so it's circumstances behind the case are widely known. they were entirely validated by the special counsel investigation. we now know that russia did try to attack our elections and that the president did engage in numerous acts of potential obstructive conduct. so it raises that question of what are we doing here? the second question is -- >> yeah. >> -- not the propriety of the attorney general talking to foreign colleagues, because that happens all the time, but these are foreign colleagues who are very, very familiar with working with u.s. investigators and prosecutors. we cooperate with those folks and have on investigations and prosecutions for many, many years. so the question becomes, why does the attorney general feel it's necessary to personally interact with those folks and make this introduction to prosecutor durham and what is taking place in those conversations? what objectives is he actually advocating here or assistance. >> to add to your example, something we wondere

a new cbs drama about jim comey. and a brand-new stage reading of the peter strzok and lisa page it left texas, i kid you not. seen and unseen, i had to. but first, house democrats continue to ignore long-standing precedent for impeachment and i want to clearly lay out three possibilities. one, they can hold a vote authorizing impeachment. that will do best process for the president. >> if that would be positive we would cooperate. >> can we just saved that the republican party, and treated extremely badly by the democra democrats. a tiny margin in the house and they have eviscerated the rules. can't have lawyers and can't speak. >> if democrats refuse that brings us to option number two. take the fight to court. at least in court there is a process, which would be a novelty for the democrats. >> the whole thing is a scam, and its fix. that will be a supreme court case, the media goes a long time. >> laura: then there's option number three. that will be the 2020 election. but i think we know why the democrats don't w

jim comey vowing to spend the next 13 months to get rid of president trump though he claims

jim comey vowing to spend the next 13 months to get rid of president trump though he claims he's notartisan. an nba fan says he and his friends were censored for holding a free hong kong banner. good evening. i'm david asman in for trish tonight. house intel committee chair adam schiff saying nothing to see her. schiff claims there is zero reason for the american people who kicked off this whole thing. take a listen. >> our primary interest is making sure that person is protected. there is more than one whistleblower, that they are protected. given that we have the call record. we don't need the whistleblower. we'll make sure we protect that whistleblower. david: the whistleblower's identity is another in the long lift of secrets in the democrats' impeachment push. the republicans have had enough and they are calling them out. >> they leak out selectively the thing they want for their narrative. our position is the american. you should know about all of the facts. >> the tragedy and the crime here is that the american people don't get to see what's going on. louon.dave will be congre

abusive, spying on trump campaign officials based on a dossier that was salacious, in the words of jim comey. they don't want to answer this question because it was all a smoke screen. >> harris: i want to stick with you for just a moment. give me a little bit of leeway here. you know, "the new york times" wrote this article. it says that even if it is normal for the u.s. president to reach out to foreign leaders for help with investigations, it's bad objects. do you think that this is what the public really wants to see? >> what the public wants his answers. that "new york times" story, the report on 22 paragraphs down, they have the solutions i like about trump pressuring australia, which wasn't the case, as john roberts just laid out the letter. with an offer to help australia. 22 paragraphs down and that your time story, they say that there is nothing untoward. there is nothing illegal about ag barr asking for leaders to cooperate. why is that 22 paragraphs down in "the new york times" story? why is the headline so salacious? it's all because they are generating the smoke screen because

michael give a short am of time to the people who were named that had done malfeasance whether it was jim comeyr others, andy mccabe, and they had a chance to comment and know what was in that report. trish: you mean it's happening right now? >> i think it's happening very, very soon. we'll start hearing what's in this report because those folks will get and selectively leak parts of it to the media in order to color the way it's received by the public. trish: that's not good. >> so they are sworn to not share it, but that doesn't prevent their lawyers and others from talking to the media. i would fully expect by next week we'll start having stories in the paper about the i.g. report. trish: who are some of the people you think are looking at this trying to cover their you know whats? >> i think there is a list. we know the names. the folks with the department of justice and the fbi that worked on the carter page fisa. the interesting thing is that now that we have this report, attorney general barr can take action whether to fire people who did wrong or otherwise penalize doj employees and fbi

they took it more as how unnerved rod rosenstein was by trump was trying to set him up about firing jim comey out and say i'm the one that told you to fire comby which is so untrue. so it is the combination that he was lying about it and then admitted that it was really russia which raises the whole obstruction issue. >> there are two scenes in this book that are not together but in our minds they come together. one is rod rosenstein goes into the white house after it is revealed that he wanted to wear a wire, and everyone thinks donald trump will fire him, and you remind us there was split screen coverage of the kavanaugh confirmation and roebs going into the white house. we expect him to be fired and he's not fired. so the question in your book is what did rod rosenstein say. in the oval office to keep his job and then the other scene is rod roebs is standing right there when the report comes out in effect demolishing the mueller report as much as they can. >> there you see the transformation in front of our very eyes. many people came into contact with trump. and the price he paid for surv

tick tock and also jim comey, pay attention. it will not be happy when this thing comes out. dan bongino, markel event is on fire -- that i can promise. straight ahead. ♪ ♪ >> sean: democrats on their partners in the media mob are in a panic ahead of the pfizer report and the german investigation. sources are telling me tonight, it's going to shock the conscience and soul of the country. i hope they're right. that's why they're pushing their lie, and acceleration rate every time you hear, a leaked transcript with china and russia! what they're trying to do is protect the deep state and that's all it is, plain and simple and it's obvious to see. every hand on deck knowing this is their strategy. we told you this would happen. as attorney general barr gets closer to exposing this corruption and all the corruption and 2016, the democrats, their allies in the media would start a new research smear campaign against the president. we will not stop digging for answers and pursuing truth and justice. we have more big breaking news out of judicial watch as they have obtained new doj d

secretary clinton be subjected to a similar level of scrutiny given this recent report and what we know jim comey which frankly to me as both a democrat and an american was ridiculous. >> jason: at least lose your security clearance, some people still work at the state department even if they have left, they should still lose their security clearance. >> shouldn't the secretary be deposed? a-determiner >> jason: there's a lot of questions. we got to move on. hillary clinton is unglued, unhinged, not only is she saying tulsi gabbard is supposedly a russian agent, joel stein is a russian agent, donald trump is a russian agent, i've got to ask you, tom fitton, are you a russiarussian agent? >> hillary clinton took half a million dollars from a russian front company, allegations are millions of dollars were laundered into her foundation which achieved a desired result on the radium one and by her own spy ring's admission, they were working with russian intelligence to target president trump. if there's anyone working with the russians, we know who it is. >> jason: pam bondi, what is your take when yo