article he talks about how no african-american said jim crow was a bad thing. >> he never said jim crow he said during the jim crow era african-americans were doing well. >> that's not what he said. >> did you read the same interview we read? >> read the quote. don't put words in his mouth. >> he never said jim crow. >> we could sit here all day. >> we can. if you don't want to talk about the facts what's the point of having a discussion? >> i'm trying to talk about the facts. we could sit here all day -- >> you are making up quotes. defending him on a false quote. when did he say jim crow. >> he said it in the gq article. in the text of the article. >> richard, here is the thing. you cannot put words in their mouth or quote them. we talk about the culture battle, war. this seems like a war they need to be involved in. this is something the party won. >> it's not just conservatives. it's people who realize that outrage for outrage's sake is ridiculous. it's amazing to me that you can cite scripture and people are up in arms over it. i hope christians get the message that they outnumber

and we never accepted it, and jim crow was a heinous act of injustice. and ann coulter and sean hannity out to be anamed and gay and lesbian and transgender and bisexual people ought to speak up and link their own fate to american people, because ultimately we're in the thing together. >> what do you think of this attempt to recruit essentially rosa parks? because this is something that has been done before on the right. any time that something they say is taken as offensive by african-americans or taken as offensive by the lgbt community, you get well, martin luther king jr. would have been on our side or rosa parks or phil robertson. what counseling do you think of that as a tactic? >> first of all, it's skurless, but the same as using jesus and making jesus cosign this bigotry here. jesus was a jew who around -- around whom a religion was made. so the anti-semitism of christians is ironic to begin with. and secondly, the gay and lesbian stuff, look in the bible. the same men who stand up in the church of all men, i put my god, jesus, over all women. i

if he is advancing jim crow, how is he processing is helping? that he grews was up in the south, was born in virginia, raised during the civil war. raised in segregated society. he saw the first bits of integration when he became president. there was integration just darting in the postal service and the treasury department. and there was friction there. wilson's feeling was i don't think this country is ready and the south is ready. i think it will be safer for everybody if we have separate but equal, which was the law of the land in those days. he thought a couple of things. he would make life safer and more peaceful for whites and for blacks if they didn't have to rub shoulders. wilson is getting attacked by both sides. whites were saying, why are you still appointing judges? why are you getting middle- management positions? you realize a black woman -- a white woman will be working on over a black man? that is unacceptable. deep down, he felt the southerners were not ready to accept it. to be really political about it, he had a very progress

for him to say blacks were happy during jim crow is false.ey were happy around him was probably a defense mechanism. why would they act sad or seem like they were going to rebel in an era where they were operating under terror and fear? so this was in spite of the situation, in spite of their oppressive laws that were ruling the land at that time. they were going to be joyful. again, this is about how he's remembering history, these rose colored duck glasses he's wearing, he needs to take them off. because he really doesn't know the truth. >> you know, maria, it was mentioned about the louisiana governor bobby jindal claiming it's all about religious freedom and free speech. let me play with the governor said. >> i think you see a growing political correctness amongst the left where they say they're for tolerance and diversity but only if you agree with them. the bigger issue is not what he said or how he said it, the bigger issue here is about religious liberty. it's about the first amendment and the right to speak up and say what you believ

and use of jim crow laws, you referred to. you look at the racial violence that extended right on through our time. where do you get any hope that this ideal of compassion, that we can create a society, such as you describe, given our conflicted, often savage past? >> i get my hope from this revolutionary idea that doesn't seem to die in the united states. this idea that all people are created equal with certain inalienable rights, including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. that was a revolutionary idea in the declaration of independence. and it was wholly incomplete. it was all men are created equal and implicitly slaves were left out, you know, poor people were left out. >> women were left out. >> women were left out. right. but it was a revolutionary idea then and it remains a revolutionary idea today. this idea that keeps changing and growing and expanding as our consciousness changes and grows and expands that all human beings are created equal and have certain inalienable rights, it won't die. it didn't die wi

i actually thought we said about african-americans in the south under jim crow was so much more offensive. >> they were happy, never heard them complains -- >> at a time an african-american looked oddly to a white person they could be lynched. >> for you, those were the comments he thought were much more controversial? >> much more offensive. this is america and sex is what we would rather talk about than race or anything else. so he invoked gay people's rear ends, means that will be the conversation instead of the offensive things he said about african-americans. >> charles blow, should he have been suspended? >> he's a media figure working for the media company. i think the media company has the right to do. he has the right to say what he wants to say. nobody is saying go out and arrest him, he's broken a law. he has not. he has a right to say what he wants to say. the media company has a right to say does what this person say align with our values, our brand, with our audience? if it does not and it is very likely written into a contract somewhere, if it does not, we have the right to

connecting with people and then let the chips fall where it may and if we do not defeat them this time, jim crow didn't come down after one below. we live in a country that has stretched the lead car sparked some of the greatest transformation the world has seen and it was regular ordinary people which i hope this isn't derogatory, but regular ordinary people like kari. [laughter] and the folks in this room that are brave enough to stand up and say what is right and in very difficult times. i am encouraged because i'm looking around the room and all of us represent a different segment in the cities of the charges to leave here and begin to organize the communities and churches, fraternities, sororities to make sure that the issues are eliminated and when the candidate emerges they will have a platform to run on and not just the party to represent. thank you. [applause] those were the perfect words to end on. if thank you, brandon, amisha and ben and to the haymarket brewery and all of you for coming. [applause] [inaudible conversations] we would like to hear from you. tweet your feedback, twitte

i have often pushed back against miss alexander's book, the idea of the new jim crow. be bad in its own way. it doesn't have to be the new old bad thing. book titles are almost never crated by the author. we've got to give her a pass on that one. that said, to bring back the slavery piece of it, i've also always pushed back around any attempts to make anything that is now that thing then, and one of the key aspects of why this thing now is not that thing then is simply what distinguished slavery in the u.s. south in the 17th, 18th, 19th generate -- century is the intergenerational nature of it. slavery there have been in other places, the thing that made the slavery different and unique in human history is the idea that you could expect nothing more for your children either than bondage. been doing this work, and also as i have learned more about the work you do, i am increasingly convinced i have made an error of judgment, and that in fact the current system of impersonation doesn't have this deep, intergenerational component. and so many ways, the marissa alexander c

south. >> he wasn't endorsing jim crow. now. >> the beauty of america -- >> he was. >> -- is the differing of opinions. obviously we don't want to promote racism or sexism. it is being able to express your opinions. in the case of phil robertson he used words that were crass and his tone was inappropriate. but when you get down to it, he was expressing faith and beliefs. in that case, it is sad to see that it's an attack on this reality tv star when you look at bill maher on hbo. he's repeatedly offending religious individuals calling christia christians herpes, calling muslims cancer. having the ability to express your beliefs and really not being completely criticized for it. >> do you want to be obedient robots reading off the the script? isn't it better to have original opinions and maybe slightly offensive? how about interesting people. who do we have dinner with? it will be boring in your world. >> tucker, i don't want robots. i agree. we do have to show some level of respect and decorum. if you don't want to, that's

he talks about lax singing and dancing in the jim crow -- about incks singing and dancing the jim crowtimes. of course he is going to see that. it is sad we are overlooking the racial stance. in the book of matthew, it tells us in every idle word, you will give an account for. watch your words. host: that was the last word from our callers. you can continue the conversation on our facebook page. how to be a right-wing cause cÉlÈbre. .ut down some minority group it is easy. is bigotry on both sides. it is all a sick joke. what about farrakhan. doesn't he say a lot of hate filled things people don't like. c-span has gone downhill big- time. so worried about covering that theye issues have lost credibility with the public. of the tweets. continue the conversation. we have got three segments coming up this morning. tomer congressman and omb her, james nussle -- and omb ,irector, will james nussle will be out here. we will talk about the progressive agenda. that is all coming up on "washington journal post quote today. -- coming up on "washington today." >> as a moderate in the privacy deba

there is jim crow. so i really do resent it when people come along and say well you can't say the phrase illegal alien when you use the n word. you can't say retard but you say the n word. you can't say a million other things. they're always comparing it to the n word. the main point i want to make is no other word is like the n word. >> ann coulter for the win, ladies and gentlemen. nobody saw that coming. cnn let's go. >> ann coulter, this is one of the first times i've ever agreed with ann coulter on cnn. mark this down in your calendar. >> ann you've always felt this way. this isn't new for you, right? >> it's not only not new for me. this is standard republican position. justice rehnquist. >> and we're back. now we're back to normal. >> there we go. there's the ann coulter we know. the one who wrote this book called "mugged" and the new one now. >> you're going to love it. trust me you're going to love it. >> stand by. we'll talk much more about the n word and a lot of other things. when we come ba

learn she's not only a local figure here in washington bg, ka she is a global figure and because of jim crow in d.c., the city that it was she purchased a property at

growing up in louisiana in the jim crow era. this is what he said -- i never with my eyes saw the mistreatment of any black person. i hoed cotton with them. i'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. we're going across the field. they're singing and happy. pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say. were they happy? they were godly. they were happy. and went on to talk about happier under jim crow. and again, the argument is not his right to say it. the argument is that as you say working for a private enterprise, if you say it, they have the right to say this can't represent that enterprise. >> well, that's exactly right. we as viewers and i happen to have been a viewer of "duck dynasty" up until now. the idea that phil or si or any of the others on the show may hold views like this is not a surprise to me. i think i watch it because i want to see another part of our culture. another segment of our society and understand how they live, work, and play. and quite frankly i've seen a few things on the show i identified with. one o

i have often pushed back against miss alexander's book, the idea of the new jim crow. be bad in its own way. it doesn't have to be the new old bad thing. book titles are almost never crated by the author. we've got to give her a pass on that one. that said, to bring back the slavery piece of it, i've also always pushed back around any attempts to make anything that is now that thing then, and one of the key aspects of why this thing now is not that thing then is simply what distinguished slavery in the u.s. south in the 17th, 18th, 19th generate -- century is the intergenerational nature of it. slavery there have been in other places, the thing that made the slavery different and unique in human history is the idea that you could expect nothing more for your children either than bondage. been doing this work, and also as i have learned more about the work you do, i am increasingly convinced i have made an error of judgment, and that in fact the current system of impersonation doesn't have this deep, intergenerational component. and so many ways, the marissa alexander c

i am the chairman of the north shore unitarian universalist church new jim crow task force. my particular question has to do with an issue that was raised in michelle alexander's book, the question being, where are the black men? we know where the black men are. my question for you is, how does that affect black women and their communities? i understand there is something like a 26% gap between available women for marriage and available men. i wonder if you can expand on that and other factors. >> i've got so many emotions. [laughter] >> can i touch it from a public health standpoint? >> i would love that. >> that question -- i don't want to go too deeply, but i will tell you how probably the cdc -- not that i agree with them most of the time -- but how the center for disease control uses that and how they label that as the number one cause for the rise in hiv rates of black women in this country, because they have multiple sex partners because all their men are gone. they end up finding more and more. then their man comes out, and they get another one. not really looking at

he also waxd nostalgi nostalgia-- nostalgic for the jim crow era, he said i have never in my sigh eyesn any misdream of blacks. they are sing and happy, i never heard one, these doggone white people, not a word. free entitle thement, they were godly, they were happy no one was sing the blues. yes, but people had nothing to sing the blues about, for pete's sake, they got their own water fountain. in fact, they had it so good white people pretended to be them. i tell you, who i kneel sorry for, folks, a & ew this controversy, they may have just lost duck dynasty's massive black and gay audience. we r r >> stephen: welcome back, everybody, you might know my guest, he is the star of the secret life of walter hitty, please welcome ben stiller. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: whooo! hey, ben, good to see you. hey. thank you so much. good to see you, so flis nice to meet you face-to-face. >> i know, how are you. >> stephen: i'm great, how are you. >> i'm doing well. >> stephen: you're that guy i like. >> oh, good. >> stephen: i love your movies, man. >> thank you, thank you. >> stephen: i l

remind everyone what phil robertson said about growing up in louisiana, for example, during the jim crowhe said quote, i never with my eyes saw the mistreatment of any black person. i hoed cotton with them. i'm with the blacks because we're white trash. we're going across the field. they're singing and happy. pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say. were they happy? they were godly. they were happy. i mean, i can understand and deal with you wanting to watch them rather than the kardashians, but if the kardashians were saying things that were against gays and talking about bestiality, talking about people happy under jim crow, i think many of us would have the same reaction and their sponsors have the same right these span sors have to say you have the right to say it but we have the right not to subsidize it. >> that's right. i agree. i disagree on all counts with phil robertson on all this. in fact, i wish he would sit down with bill russell who also comes from monroe, louisiana. he'd give a different view about how black folks really felt back in those days which i can remember too. i'm

it's nonstandard on the right to defend the jim crow south in the way phil robertson did. conservative by and large understand in the 1950s legal and social structure surrounding race in the south is unacceptable. >> do they understand that? >> partly they like to talk about that to talk about how much progress we made since then and people shouldn't complain today because they are not like they were in the 1950s. >> i think politically speaking, lets be frank about what's going on here, part of the reason you're not hearing reaction is the calculation is the base of the party loves duck dynasty. they are thinking if i say the wrong thing, than i'm going to upset the base. for a lot of these guys already terrified of the tea party and i'm not saying the tea party is racist, i'm not saying all the base of the republican party is racist, they know this is a popular show. you don't go after a popular show and a popular figure if you think the people who want to vote for you -- >> that's a perfect point. i want to get matt in here. the politics are very interesting. it's now b

. >> can you fair it to the days of jim crow and the united states. how do you compare those two? >> i didn't live through it. i think so, i think if it is anything that the distance is greater. i don't think people have stopped from going downtown, in american cities when they didn't have a job. i think in some ways it was more extreme that kind of special separation, and even often the identity that didn't have a job in the city, they will move the mark. very young, at the age of 12, was a settlement that was just destroyed. there were people that didn't have the right paperwork. in the state not once in there, and he simply put them on track, and drove them off. i knew that it happened. at the same time the people that ran the government the president has been a member of a underground organization that was part and linked to german intelligence. doing operations on german bell jens. my teachers were pro nazi, you have the sense of who is right and wrong. it is obvious that this absolutely moral outrage. somefect violated -- one of the great leaders and teachers of the 20th cen

who won't get into heaven and he suggested that african-americans in louisiana were happier under jim crow than they are now. robertson has been put on hiatus and saying, quote. i would never treat anybody with disrespect because they are different from me. we are all created by the almighty and like him, i love all of humanity. >>> people who find hillary clinton fascinating. the former secretary of state, senator, and first lady topped the news anchor's most fascinating list. >>. >>> we know the name of one of the big megamillions winners of tuesday's near record 648 million dollar jackpot! her name is ira curry. she is of stone mountain, georgia. a 56-year-old married mother who a lot of people say she picked the winning ticket using a mix of family birthdays and her lucky number seven. >> they were very, very excited about the win. they were, as they said, still in a state of shock. she heard on the radio station that the announcer talking about a number 7 as the megaball. she realized that was her pick and so she called her daughter. she woke up her daughter. her daughter checked the

and that was followed by decades of segregation and insubordination and humiliation which is what jim crowaws did. >> stephen: so can i blame this on muslims? >> no. you actually, we are all actually responsible for our failure to tell the truth about our racial history. >> stephen: so you too, you are a black guy, right. >> everybody. >> stephen: people tell me i'm white and i believe them because i feel terribly guilty about this conversation. so black people have some burden in this. >> well, yes, because we actually have to get the entire country, blacks, white, latino, religious minorities, everybody to be more truthful about what discrimination and bigotry does to us all. >> stephen: what it used to do, rosa parks ended it. >> i heard you say that. >> stephen: not me, that was the rnc. >> well, actually, i still see tremendous racism, tremendous racism. >> stephen: we have a black president. >> we do. >> stephen: we have a black president-- hold on. we have a black president. what part of we have a black president don't you get. >> well, i get that we have a black president. it seems

robertson said the african-americans he knew in the jim crow south were happy.son, pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say were they happy? they were godly. they were happy. no one was singing the blues." it may come as little surprise that a self proclaimed religious redneck like robertson may have some strong opinions. reaction has been fiery. the naacp and gay rights organization calling robertson's remarks dangerous and revisionist. >> when i hear someone compare my relationship of ten years to bestiality, they're essentially calling my partner a dog, they're essentially saying that, you are less than human. >> reporter: a&e, which airs the wildly popular "duck dynasty," suspended robertson. that has only fueled the tsunami of support for the bearded patriar patriarch. his supporters refusing to duck and cover. a field goal page calling for robertson to return and for a&e to be boycotted has more than 1.5 million likes. online millions are putting their names on various petitions. we counted at least 13 separate petitions supporting robertson on change.org alo

should look african-american and gay people in the eyes and hear about the hurtful impact of praising jim crow laws. if dialogue with phil is not part of next stepsen then a & e has chosen profits overran and gay groups. a & e will air public service announcements that would promote tolerance, acceptance. tapings will resume in the spring. back to you. >> #"duck dynasty" on twitter. thank you very much. stay with fox news. i'll be back at 7:00 p.m. eastern with the fox report. my friends on "the five" are now. ♪ ♪ [ sniffles, coughs ] shhhh! i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male anner ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is! >>> i'm kimberly guilfoyle, with bob beckel and the others. it's 5:00 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five". ta >> is religion making a comeback in america? " it seems like people are hungry for something beyond what is offered in the materialistic sexually charged

there is the new jim crow, but there is also all these people who have done this work for a long time. says thedo work that -- we that this isn't don't live in a world that celebrates prison abolition, black women's leadership, freedom, opportunities for women to raise their children, places forrieve, opportunity sexual expression that is fair and just, the reason we don't live in that world is because we live in the world that is a prison nation. the prison nation in the world that says despite all those attempts to survive, despite well articulated strategies for empowerment of black communities and other subsets of black communities, what we have instead is a world, a government that is committed to the politics, the principal, the philosophy of a cursor allstate. when i talk about a prison nation what i am talking about -- ae world that has united states government that has more prisoners than any other place in the world. furtherople spend time away from their families and communities than in any other place in the world. they spend that time in worse conditions of confinement th

the patriarch didn't stop there, robertston who grew up in jim crow louisiana, tells "gq" the african-americanss the mistreatment of any black person. preentitlement, prewelfare. you say, were they happy? they were godly. they were happy. no one was singing the blues." in the two days since those word were publish aid cascade of recriminations have ricochetted. one possible casualty is a&e's crown jewel "duke dynasty" itself. the family tonight threatening to call it quits. this is the patriarch of the most watched unscripted cable television show in history who preside over a $500 million empire, the bush-bearded sons of "duck dynasty" are among the most highly recognized americans anywhere. presenting at the country music awards. rubbing shoulders with the nation's top politicians at the white house correspondents dinner. they have their own christmas cd out this year. not bad. ♪ christmas cookies are a special treat ♪ >> reporter: "duck the halls" anyone? and when i hung out with them for a day this year, they preached the gospel of their love for all good things. guns, fried frogs legs, fam

i come from people who grew up in the jim crow era and i'm not sure that is the way -- actually i know>> i bet you do know. >> absolutely. >> nischelle turner, we'll talk more about this in the next hour of "newsroom." >>> the opening ceremonies for the oner it games in sochi are 50 days away. the headlines are still focused on russia's anti-gay attitude. now president vladimir putin is responding to the criticism. hi honey, did you get the toaster cozy? yep. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with new fedex one rate, i could fill a box and ship it for one flat rate. so i knit until it was full. you'd be crazy not to. is that nana? [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> the nsa can keep on snooping but changes must be made, on

to just a quick note from each of you and let me start with you david is this not literacy tests jim crow poll taxes is this just not voter disenfranchisement. no voter id laws or jim crow laws like one direction is the beatles they're not even in the same ballpark the bottom line is connecticut delaware rhode island washington state all have voter id laws as do candidates sweden switzerland even the netherlands where practically everything is legal you need proof of id not of. these absolutely was not these kinds of nicole your thoughts my thoughts this is a modern day literacy test the modern day poll tax it's purposely put in place to basically prevent a certain demographic from being able to go to the polls studies have shown that these voter i.d. laws disproportionately affect african-american women between the ages the state thirty five and sixty four is who are the ones who are most affected by these voter id laws that you see passed in the republican controlled state mark last and so i think it's a solution without a problem i think it's bad politics for the g.o.p. i think it's in

were joined last night by steve colbert who defended his rosie depiction of southern life under jim crowding his claim that blacks were happy, and quote, no one were singing the blues. >> they had nothing to sing the blues about. for pete's sake, they got their own water fountains. in fact, they had it so good, white people pretended to be them. i tell you, who i feel sorry for, folks. a&e. with this controversy, they may have just lost the "duck dynasty" massive black and gay audience. that's "hardball" for now. up next, your business with j.j. ramberg. ibrillation -- an irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. that puts jim at a greater risk of stroke. for years, jim's medicine tied him to a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but now, with once-a-day xarelto®, jim's on the move. jim's doctor recommended xarelto®. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effective to reduce afib-related stroke risk. but xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem. that doesn't require routine b

robertson should look african american and gay people in the eyes and hear about the act of praising jim crow laws and comparing them to terrorists. >>> a bartender in arizona is the lucky recipient of a big tipper. she said some men came in last night after buying a round of shots. she said afterwards the men were acting a bit peculiar. >> they said hold this up. i said what is going on? the girls were gasping and stuff. i looked down and it was $2000. >> jonas says she shared some of the money with her coworkers and plans to use the rest testify to pay off christmas gifts she bought for her daughters. the big tippers around the country include harris' steakhouse in san francisco. while the secret tipper hasn't officially revealed his identity, there are reports that he is former paypal executive jack selby. >>> the record dry weather in california has caused water at full folsom lake to drop. parts of old mining towns that are normally under water are now starting to reappear. >> reporter: it's terrain that hasn't been touched for years, usually submerged under folsum lake. alex and his fat

robertson who grew up in jim crow, louisiana tells gq blacks were better off before civil rights. "i never with my eyes saw the mistreatment of any black person. pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say were they happy? they were godly, they were happy, and no one was singing the blues." condemnation came swiftly. the naacp and the gay rights organization the human rights campaign called the remarks dangerous and revisionist. >> it is completely unacceptable to equate homosexuality with beetality. it is completely unacceptable to assert that being gay is a choice that one has. >> reporter: a&e listened, placing robertson on indefinite hiatus. conservative fans like sarah palin came to his defense, by targeting his opponents as intolerants. the governor of his home state sounding off. >> the left is tolerant of every viewpoint except those that don't agree with them. >> reporter: others say robertson is being attacked for his religious beliefs. the family has a best-selling christmas cd out. ♪ redneck christmas >> reporter: and fans flock to them for it. >> everybody watches that. you

miss worded but let's be honest most people republican party probably do think racism and if you're jim crow i mean how else could mitt romney think it was ok to single out the dogs out in front of a black florida voter voters in two thousand and eight. stocks. and a very very ugly republican lawmakers if you thought the burger movement was crazy just check out this video put together by climate desk that shows republican senators and congressmen using the bible yes that bible to debunk global warming. is a twenty two to use in there is what was the earth remains there would be springtime harvest gold in the winter and summer day and night my point is you've got to up there. the arrogance of people to think that we human beings would be able to change what he is doing in the climate is to me the second verse comes from matthew twenty four the earth will end only when the clear is it's time to be over. man will not destroy this earth this earth will not be destroyed by a flood i would point out that if you're a believer in the bible. one would have to say the great flood is an example of fine

. >> it was beyond the jim crow era but it was very segregated in parts of the south when you grew up. >> yes. >> you have obviously evolved beyond that environment, travel traveled the world. where do you see this racism? >> one of the greatest things i did, i wrote a book x amount of years ago called "what the who is afraid of a large black man." i have had 30 companies made make my booed mandatory writing. i wanted to write a positive book on race because i consider racism the biggest cancer of my lifetime. we have to let this race stuff go and start judging. it's always going to be there. but you can't lump a whole group, any group, together. so you have to judge every person their own individual merits. >> when you talk about racism, some people think you are just people. >> no, because it's not. u get exxon fused. they make it black or white but i live in arizona, and, you know, they really made -- treated the hispanics unfairly, rounded them up, trying to, you know, deport them all. some of those people are really amazing people who work really, really hard, really, really hard

were joined last night by steve colbert who defended his rosie depiction of southern life under jim crowcluding his claim that blacks were happy, and quote, no one were singing the blues. >> they had nothing to sing the blues about. for pete's sake, they got their own water fountains. in fact, they had it so good, white people pretended to be them. i tell you, who i feel sorry for, folks. a&e. with this controversy, they may have just lost the "duck dynasty" massive black and gay audience. that's "hardball" for now. up next, your business with j.j. ramberg. u use in the laundry. my tide, downy, and bounce all come in free & gentle. so we get a cleaner, softer blankie. [ gasps ] [ female announcer ] tide, downy, and bounce free & gentle. it's not the "limit the cash i earn every month" card. it's not the "i only earn decent rewards at the gas station" card. it's the no-games, no-signing up, everyday-rewarding, kung-fu-fighting, silver-lightning-in-a-bottle, bringing-home-the-bacon cash back card. this is the quicksilver card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, ev