they may even have arrived so recently that they've come after the jim crow period ended. i have a couple of responses to that type of perspective. the first is if an individual migrates to a country, they migrate to its history and to its national obligations. and the national obligation is what's in question here. it's not a matter of personal responsibility or individual responsibility. it's a national obligation that's based on the historical experiences that the united states of america has undergone. i would also add that i presume people who have chosen to migrate to the united states have chosen to do so based on the opportunity structure that exists now, which is also a product of the level of affluence that the united states as a country, as a whole has achieved. and that level of affluence was built on the backs of black american coerced labor that went on for upwards of three to four generations in the united states after the formation of the republic. >> from maggie in new york, republican line, go ahead, please. >> caller: hi. thanks for taking my call. my pr

award winning author and playwright who traveled across the united states collecting memories of the jim crow of. a century off to the victories of the civil rights movement. in america is still the problem crime is on the rise but trump's controversial presidency will civil rights groups find fresh campaigns against racial hatred in america. and can racism truly be rooted out from the united states. calvin alexander ramsey award winning writer and playwright welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today mr ramsey know you have been digging into the green book for a long time the travel guide for african-americans during the jim crow laws that help them avoid painful discriminations and segregated south jame crowd may be a thing of the past but for instance film director spike lee believes racism is ingrained in the day and day of the united states days think it will ever be overcome completely. well it's going to take a long time because you know with the development of the i guess the you know the country with the native americans and with the you know the the many many ye

but i'm of a certain age where i grew up you know in the jim crow south and seen this. before my parents grandparents seen worse so you know. there's got to keep organizing and writing and educating and. listening to each other. and to see where it's going to go because it is. very disturbing. to most people and it looks like it's. it's on a daily. uptick syl let me ask you something the esquire magazine has put a white teenager on its march cover it with a headline the american boy now this sparked a huge controversy as a cover appeared touring the black month history do you see that reaction is justified i mean distil us media have to be seen as racist and discriminatory every time we depict white people as average americans. well you know we have to be realistic this this this is you know. the people who are making the rules. and running the show are mostly white people and if you go to a country where a different group was running the show you are seeing different images so i'm not surprised that in this live in a country where the majority of the population was was

they did not have jim crow laws. they are arguing the schools in denver were de facto segregated, segregated based on racial segregated based on residential patterns. the supreme court said a city couldn't say we didn't have specifically black and white schools, so therefore we can't be under a desegregation order. the supreme court said yes. defacto segregation could come under a court order, which is what we will see in boston. in 1974, the court put the limit on this. that was in milliken of the bradley. here we have a case of detroit, a northern city that in the 60's and 70's experienced a white flight out of the city, becomes majority african-american, and the whites in detroit schools tend to be in mostly white schools. the solution was let's bus children across the city lines, let's bus african-american children in detroit across the line to the suburbs, and white children from the suburbs into the city. this metropolitan desegregation order would link the suburban schools with the urban schools as a way to ba

jim crow doing you had reconstruction and so is you know it's a lie it's a lie you know and what i will say that is has gotten better during my lifetime. i've seen changes but they came about because people worked to bring those changes black people white people and people of the same i so it wasn't easy the strides that have been made there were hard fought for it i've heard that there are special projects and local director is like new orleans black book or black friendly flat project that comprised black businesses making it easier for black customers to get certain services as this kind of a same thing as the green book. this is similar and in a minor way is i guess spending dollars with people of your same race and maybe mindset but the green book was totally different green book was a it wasn't a luxury where you could just decide who you could spend money with the where you want to sleep where a stay green book was really all you head because you could not belong to aaa equal not belong to any car club or hotel clubs that was just a big not just in the south with throughout the w

been digging into the green book for a long time the travel guide for african americans during the jim crow laws that help them avoid painful discriminations and segregated south jim crowd may be a thing of the past but for instance film director spike lee believes racism is ingrained in the d.n.a. of the united states days think it will ever be overcome completely. well it's going to take a long time because you know with the development of the i guess the you know the country with the native americans and with the you know the the many many years of bondage by africans who were brought here you know then you had the black codes after that and then you had. jim crow did you had reconstruction and so is you know it's a lie it's a lie you know and what i will say that is has gotten better during my lifetime. i've seen changes but they came about because people who worked to bring those changes black people white people and people of the same mind so it wasn't easy the strides that have been made they were hard fought. it off heard that there are special projects and local directors like new

jim crow and you had reconstruction and so is you know it's a lie it's a lot you know and what i will say that is has gotten better during my lifetime. i've seen changes but they came about because people worked to bring those changes black people white people and people of the same mind so it wasn't easy the strides that have been made there were hard fought for it i've heard that there are special projects and local dire.

jim crow didn't you had reconstruction and so is you know it's a lie it's a lot you know and what i will say that is has gotten better during my lifetime. i've seen changes but they came about because people worked to bring those changes black people white people and people of the same mind so it wasn't easy the strides that have been made they were hard fought. it off heard that there are special projects and local director is like new orleans black book or black friendly flat project that comprised black businesses making it easier for black customers to get certain services as is kind of the same thing as the green book. and i'm misinterpreting it well the green. well is it is similar and in a minor way is it's i guess spending dollars with people of your same race and maybe mindset but the green book was totally different green book was a it wasn't a luxury where you could just decide who you can spend money with where you want to sleep or a stay green book was really are you head.

been digging into the green book for a long time the travel guide for african-americans during the jim crow laws that help them avoid painful discrimination and segregated south jame crown may be a saying of the past but for instance film director spike lee.

it did not have jim crow laws, it did not have segregation, but they are arguing that the schools in denver were defective segregated, -- de facto segregation. the supreme court said that a city could not say we did not have specifically black and white schools, so therefore we can't be under a desegregation order, the supreme court said yes, that could come under a court order, which is what we will see in boston. in 1974, the courts put a limit on this and put the limit on bussing. so here we have a case in detroit of the northern city, a northern city that in the 60's and 70's experiences white flight out of the city, becomes majority african-american, rules are heavily african-american. the whites that are in detroit schools tend to be in mostly white schools. was let's busn children across the city line, let's bus african-american children across the line to the suburbs and white children from the suburbs into the city. this metropolitan desegregation order would link the suburban schools with the urban schools as a way to balance the schools racially. and it is here the supreme

again, he got jim crowed so many times. early on, he would act without rage and he would get thrown out of hotels and trains. later on, if he was stopped in the dining room of a hotel, this is in the north, and he was told you cannot eat in the dining room, you must eat in the kitchen. he was stand up and he would as loudly as he could, where do you feed your dog's, where are the

i just had a jim crow in a dope they are a dime a dozen i'm afraid. it happened early, hotels, trains. steam ships on and on. early in his life he would react without rage. even physical outrage. but as he got older he would encounter yet again the hotel owner it would not serve him. there was a couple cases i've documented where it would not be served in the dining room and he would be told you can only eat in the kitchen. he would stand up as loud as he could in the dining room. pretty soon the people in the restaurant feel sympathy for him. let the man said here. he found a way to use humor to get a decent meal in the dining room. what he thought about having to do that when he went back to his room this kind of racism you have to find overtime some way to process it without just putting a peer fist and wanting to kill somebody. >> as i come up with the microphone to give it to the next person. i'm curious to what happens to the children of great men. i will be very brief adopted a little girl at birth in 1986. jeannie is a very prominent photograp

highlighting the jim crow laws in the south. ends in the crow 1960's, we get this renewed interest in the south. kind of southern influences begin to seep into american society. something we see to this day. southern rock becomes popular, the band lynyrd skynyrd. the song "sweet home alabama," which is the answer to the song "southern man," a very critical song about white southerners and their opposition to civil rights. lynyrd skynyrd is the answer to that. a southern man doesn't need neil young around anymore. alabama praising george wallace. other bands like allman brothers, marshall tucker band. you also had country rock. the eagles are not really a southern band, but there's a lot of rock music that becomes kind fied a little bit. country music was known in the 50's as hillbilly music. now, it is mainstream. part of it is the outlaw culture. i think that's one reason -- if you're going to explain why this interest in the south and popularity in this southern culture, i think it has something to do with the individualism, t

mississippi to fight racism all over again in -- to find a racism all over again, in the form of jim crow. that barred african-americans from restaurants, restrooms. sometimes people say the civil rights movement began with brown v. board of education. that is a lie. it began far before that. and medgar evers was among those in thosenvolved campaigns. he was part of the campaign in the mississippi delta where they had bumper stickers that said don't buy gas, or you can't use the restroom. ,e was part of that campaign along with dr. howard, who worked on the emmett till case. so he came from from world war andnd on his first breath -- he came home from world war ii and went to try to vote at the courthouse in decatur, mississippi, and was turned away by white men with guns. medgar evers said in recalling that day, i vowed that day and would never be whipped again. so he applied, believe it or not, to the university of mississippi to attend law school. he was turned away. this is again before brown v. board of education and before james meredith ended up becoming the first known african-ame

what distinguishes this case is the fact that slavery and jim crow were embedded explicitly into the legal structure in the u.s. and were enacted or acted upon on that basis. if there are other types of injustices that have occurred, we frequently have certain types of legal remedies for those. there was no legal remedy for being enslaved. there was no legal remedy for being subjected to segregation or apartheid in the u.s. because those were things written directly into the nation's laws. thank you for your time, theoming up, present from two signed an executive order on free speech on college campuses which includes efforts in which college kids the -- colleges could be denied certain federal grants. as we wait for that, a look at the role of melania trump. for congressional studies, also served as the former chief of staff for former first lady laura bush. can you scope out recent developments? guest: one of the most recent was this opportunity she used to convene all the agencies programs funded through the federal government. but i found gratifying about that was it was continui

it was not the right way on jim crow. it was not the right way on the cold war. is not the right way on hitler's. there are moments when one way is the right way to do. nine times out of 10, you can go 60-40 or 50-50. what has happened because of a number of structural factors is it is hard to get to the 50-50 point. i am basing this partly on talking to a lot of people in the arena. at some point you have to credit what they say. they say it is harder than it was 20 years ago to get things done. i will say newt gingrich. they will say, yeah, but -- if you have the house of that wasatives accountable to a diverse , youogical group of voters would have ultimately better governing results because they would stop, they would have less of a reason to be afraid of my primaried.rb, being the central concern most people have is they do not want to invite a primary challenge. the one thing i would do if i could postage stamp the districts. it is not very sexy, but i think it would have a real effect. is that it? [applause] gentlemen and ladies, jon meacham. [applause] >>

it wasn't the right way on jim crow. it wasn't the right way in the cold war it wasn't the right way against hitler. there are moments in life where one way is the right thing to do but nine times out of 10 you can go 60-40 or 50-50. what happened because of a number of structural factors it's very hard to get to that 50-50 point. i'm basing after talking to people in the arena. they credit what you say. it must have been a lot harder 20 years ago to get things done. i say newt gingrich and they say yeah but. i think if you have a house of representatives that was accountable to a diverse ideological group of voters you would have better governing results because they would have a less of a reason to be afraid of my favorite verb, being primaried. khr i , which i heard for the first time about 10 years ago that they don't want to invite a primary challenge. the first thing i want to do is if you can postage stamp the districts. it's not very sexy but i think it would have a real effect. >> thank you. >> ladies and gentle

he and his attorney general worked quietly through the courts to weaken jim crow's desegregation. he appointed five reasonably progressive jir injury i-s to the supreme court. most significantly earl warren to have supreme court as chief justice. eisenhower had some qualms about the decision but at no point did he ever publicly denounce the decision or seek to undermine it. he never would dream of doubting it publicly. he would sign into law the 1957 civil rights act. first one since the end of the civil war, since reconstruction. and he took a real risk when he ordered federal troops to surround central high school in little rock, arkansas, to ensure that court-ordered desegregation of through school would proceed despite the hostility of the governor of arkansas. eisenhower saw the issue as one of federal power vs. state power in which the federal government had to right to impose and enforce the law. he may have been a reluctant warrior on civil rights but he was an authority on federal law enforcement it's true that ike didn't personally take up the civil right as his own. he

fighting the nazis and returned home to mississippi to find racism all over again in the form of jim crow that barred african-americans from restaurants, restrooms. evers -- sometimes people say the civil rights movement began with brown v. board of education. that is a lie. it began far before that. medgar evers was among those that was involved there. he was involved in a campaign in the mississippi county delta with bumper stickers that said don't buy gas or don't use the restroom. he came home from world war ii, and on his 21st birthday, went with a group of african-american soldiers, including his brother charles to try to go vote at the courthouse indicator, decatur,i, and -- in mississippi, and were turned away by white men with guns. day,r, in recalling that thou that day that he would never be whipped again. he applied at the university of mississippi to attend law school. he was turned away. this is again before brown v. board of education and before james meredith ended up becoming the first known african-american student there. there actually was an african-american student be

how county people who claim to be against jim crow make this case?ey shouldn't but they are trying to. total slap in the face to anyone who has fought for equality and fought to have a society in which we don't judge people on the color of their skin. >> tucker: so, to get to the specifics of this case, they are saying that will smith is not black enough or i hate even to say this it's so disgusting but that he is somehow the wrong color. how is he responding to this? >> that's exactly what they are saying as if they have brought a tape color up to his skin and saying you are one too many shades too far removed from the person you are supposed to portray is actually looks like. and so far i think he has kind of seemed to be standing his ground. i hope he doesn't follow the path that has been set out before him by other actors who have cowed to the mob and say i'm not going to do this i have clearly crossed the line and done something that polite society doesn't do. he brings a lot to any role. is he a great actor and one that brings audiences and tha

we love segregation, we love jim crow and we want to keep it the way it is. obviously, the records themselves reflected what was really going on. i think it is very important -- the other part, the sovereignty commission itself was all of the top leaders of state government that were a part of the sovereignty commission, the lieutenant governor, the state treasurer, all of the major offices were a part of that sovereignty commission as well as others as well. they would share information. i will give a simple example. the sovereignty commission spied on mickey and his wife rita three months prior to the clan killing -- to the klan clearly -- killing them. he would think, they spied on them. here is what happened. date did these spy reports on what all they were doing and driving around in, their license tag number. gave it to the meridian police department, which you don't necessarily think anything about that, except when i tell you this, more than half the meridian police department were in the kkk. in fact, one of the main shooters in the murder party of t

the jim crow system in the south. this was a very democratic sort of thing.o this is what democracy gets us. can we get out of our current fix? i hope so. but, i don't have great expectations. and, this because i talk about this generation of compromisers well, the compromisers died in the early 1850s and we had the civil war within ten years. again, i'm not predicting we will have a civil war, but i don't see what will bring us out of the situation where successful candidates can pander to some of our basics and our basis interests. i will allow one possibility. that is, occasionally in politics comes along and someone is really charismatic. someone who can appeal to the better angels of our nature. sometimes there's a theater roosevelt. in theater roosevelt is not always universally admired today. he has, by our standards some reactionary views, but he was an ardent spokesman for democracy as it was understood in those days. he led the progressive charge against the trust. he did what he could promote african-american rights in the south, which wasn't much,

it did not beat jim crow or the nazis. we did these things together. groups of people pulling together saying i will not wait for washington. we are going to bring the change to our communities. we did not beat back the denial of women to have the right to vote because a bunch of men washington around 1900 said it was time for those women to have the right to vote. rightsnot get voting because a bunch of people in washington said it is time for those negro people to have the right to vote. right to vote the because strom thurmond had an epiphany. said thereouglass must be a demand. we are here because of the grace thate beloved community plow seeds ofto love and watered those with blood.sweat, and ofare here today because that sacrifice. moral cannot indulge in amnesia. in this day and age, forget that you honor history not just by reflecting or reciting it. you honor history by emulate in it, letting it challenge you and demand from you that you show the lessons you have learned. we come together to honor the sacrifices today. but we also know that th

version of reconstruction. -- an old trope of jim crow version of reconstruction. "the chicago defender," it was an abject attempt to justify empowering words of apology, the greatest act of the greatest american, the freeing of the poor, helpless bondmen. and it was perfectly pleasing, to this triumvirate, o warren harding on the left, robert lincoln in the middle, and speaker of the house, then ex-speaker of the house uncle joe cannon, who had reluctantly agreed to the site and was still around for the dedication. and there it was, a symbol, i guess, of the reunification of the states facing virginia, with the words of the gettysburg address and the second inaugural carved inside, but not the words of what lincoln said was his greatest act, the emancipation. just some further technical ingenuity by french, who gets enormous credit for conceiving the sculpture and then unfortunately did not live to see its transfiguration, but he did know that, at night, it was not visible. primitive electric lighting -- he very cleverly got g.e. to do a free study, and they rehea

how on earth is it possible that a party that instituted slavery, jim crow laws, racial terrorism and, has the black vote? how is it possible? we gave up culture. that is how the left was able to do this. we gave up culture. >> [applause] candace: over the course of the last 50 and 60 years, it seems we have given up influencing pop-culture altogether on the right. to a certain degree, that is completely understandable. there isn't a climate more hostile to conservative principles than the entertainment industries. we see that when joy behar mocks the vice president for being faithful to his wife. she mocks the vice president for saying he loves jesus christ. you certainly aren't going to win any accolades in hollywood if you write a script and the protagonist is a part of the nuclear family unit. in fact, you will be chased out of hollywood if you start to perpetuate conservative principles. that is because the left have festeded, infected, and in culture at every single layer. >> [applause] candace: this is why kamala harris, who will never be president of the united states, is talk

strip most ballons of voting rights unless they pay a poll tax you remember the poll tax it's the jim crow era form of oppression that forced newly freed slaves the pay of the before they could vote in a practice so antiquated it makes you wonder if a florida house members idea of a good throwback thursday photo on instagram is just the picture of a plantation mansion of a caption that says the good old days in the case of florida's house of reps a poll tax means felons would first have to pay any outstanding court finds. and fees before regaining the right to vote this is obviously a burden on ex presenters who are reentering their already economically depressed communities and who will likely face so many job projections based on their records that the only employer who will accept them is the casting director for floor bama shore and if you couldn't tell already they'll take any walk. before men but for past experiments had to wait five to seven years after finishing their sentence to apply to the state's clemency board in order to restore their voting rights before filing a written app

award winning author and playwright who traveled across the united states collecting memories of the jim crow about. half a century after the victories of the civil rights movement. trumps controversial presidency will civil rights groups find fresh campaigns against racial hatred in america. racism the truth. from the united states. calvin alexander ramsey award winning writer and playwright welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today mr ramsey know you have been digging into the green book for a long time the travel guide for.

they may even have arrived so recently that they have come after the jim crow period had ended.ave a couple responses to that type of perspective. if an individual migrates to a country, they migrate to its history and national obligations. the national obligation is what is in question here. it is not a matter of personal responsibility of -- or individual responsibility, it is a national obligation based on the historical experiences that the united states has undergone. i would also add that i presume that people who have chosen to migrate to the united states have chosen to do so based on the opportunity structure that product ofwhich is a the level of affluence that the united states as a whole has achieved and that level of affluence was built on the backs of black american coerced labor that went on for upwards of three to four generations after the formation of the republic. host: maggie in florida -- maggie in new york, republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. is ok,lem with this slavery was a horrible thing and the entire country regrets it. what about th

over it's racism problem that we're not going to we're going to fail because we went from slavery jim crow to the prison industrial complex is the modern slave. system right now the constitution actually allows for the abuse and manipulation of the human body while in penitentiaries if you read the thirteenth amendment which of biologists laid it abolishes slavery say for those persons who are in costa rated soon after the civil war ended and the thirteenth amendment was issued black men and women were arrested in november's large numbers throughout the south for vagrancy and they were put into a prison industrial complex or prison complex which actually mimicked the plantation society yes amazing that the. land that we live there is a well of culture both in the native population the black population the african population and now when we visit countries like mexico and mexico city the ancient cultures are still very much part of the present they don't they don't try to whitewash everything they don't destroy everything there's this emphasis on the now the future you know it's everything'

rugged individuals did not beat jim crow, beat the not seize, we did these things together. small groups of people getting together saying, i will not wait for washington. we will bring the change to our community. the denial of women to have the right to vote because a bunch of men in washington said, hey, fellas, it is about time those women had a right to vote. no. we deny get voting rights inause of budget people washington said it is time for those negro people should get the right to vote. powerick douglass says can be nothing without a demand. we are here because of that grace. double loved community of people -- the beloved community of people, to pull out seeds -- two seeds of lovew with sweat. ofare here today because that sacrifice. indulge in a moral amnesia. and in this day and age, forget that we honor history, not by just reciting it, you honor history by emulating and letting it challenge you and demand from you that you show the lessons you have learned. to honor theher sacrifices today, but we also know the only way we can honor the work that was done befor

cosmopolitan and international and they are part of this moment of this kind of extreme even as jim crow and lynch law and kind of the most aggressive forms of racism are being enacted in the u.s. south. it's also time of extraordinary flourishing in creativity in black communities, civic work organizations, schools are being created, literature, arts, etc. what the story is called the promise of reconstruction is dashed and there's total devastation, there's also this incredible blossoming. so part of what this all led me to is that i understood that people actually didn't get the context and why the song was important, and i began to build an archive. i knew this story of the song wasn't where the collections of its composer and writer were, which is the library at yale university. they have their papers. there's about 20 some odd documents there, about lifting your voice and sing. i created an archive that was close to 7,000 documents because i looked in black culture institutions as opposed to in the lives of its author and composer. so i looked at school programs, curricula, memoirs

segregated for half a century and took you know even into the seventy's and eighty's still fighting jim crow laws they actually need more money to get to where these white schools are those for and you can see it from the charts and that's children predominately black public schools are there. basically because of the effects of racist segregation that never went away we have to had best in those true children and really worked hard equity for them so that they have the same chances that everybody else and this goes on a socio economic front as well the children who happen to go to a public school in a nice area with expensive houses and high property taxes shouldn't have a wild amount more than someone who is the poor kid who live in the neighborhood whose parents clean most people's houses that's the basic purpose of the country right is life liberty and the pursuit of how to be right that there is there until you have produced what means you can pursue it and seven equal ability to do the right isn't any will ability to pursue how think it is and you can't certain say well if everyone is

senator stennis, if you wanted something done, because he was hard jim crow people in the south, he has good relationships with both north and south. you can see he gets the eod unit from charleston. the guys you see in the hats and coats are the eod unit from charleston. up. come black, almostare all the people in the mississippi state penitentiary are black. so in this working crew, we see the eod unit from charleston and the guyersonnel you see is the guard of the prison. the prisoners like to get out of the prison. this is the second kamman we have brought up. it is loaded, and we are ready to go to the next slide. if we had been smart, we would have started charging people to come up and see the cairo and see the operations. we would always raise a cannon on the weekend. you have big crowds. mistake --ke a big we don't charge them. [laughter] mr. bearss: the other big thing time to liveorst in mississippi if you are black ider is atom r this time, because there will be several grim murders. you may remember the three ders that were murdered and buried in an earthen dam. we get lots