his impact on north carolina, and how he navigated the jim crow era. this is about 20 minutes. >> reginald ellis, professor at florida a&m university, let's talk about this gentleman, the racial politics of james edward shepard. who was he? >> dr. shepard was an individual who was born and raised of a father who was a prominent african-american minister in the state of north carolina, his parents were individuals who actually came out of the institution of slavery and ended up thriving as prominent african-americans in the state of north carolina. dr. shepard goes on to receive an advanced education at what's now charlotte university, and goes on to also become one of the first african-american pharmacists in the state of north carolina. shortly thereafter, he goes on to follow his father's footsteps and tries out the ministry, and travels the world with the international sunday school association, which leads him to his higher calling which ultimately becomes creating the institution that is present day north carolina central university. >> what about

americans also had additional challenges in that they would not welcome you many andes due to jim crow laws, also downtown, which african americans were not allowed in at the time. george: when i was growing up, two orer was working three jobs, and i thought he knew most things, and i said to him "dad, why are white people so mad at us?" and he said "george, that is just the way it is." " i am notght, "wow, upset enough to hurt you or to do bad things. i did not understand. "that is just the way it is." society at that time. that was the way things happened at the time. that i had to learn to do what is required. -- and i still ask that question. i still don't know why people are so upset that they could see you walk by and want to hurt you or kill you. kevin: african americans often times, andn difficult it was not just in the south, it was also in the north. many times they would be pulled over, asked about why they are traveling and even if it was their vehicle. they would be equaled over, asking them "is this your car? did you steal this? why do you have this car?" and they would a

this was important during 1950s jim crow laws which contributed african-americans from going places,in segregation was in effect at the green book offered a guide to give people advice of where they could go. green book started off in new york city. victor hugo green is the publisher of the green book and founder of the green books. he kind of got the idea of just traveling himself in the new york city area and just trying to figure out the best locations he could have and realized that african-americans were places recording the they would go and so this just became a more formal, version of that. >> so the green book lists different places that african-americans could get service, anywhere from hotels to gas stations to restaurants, different type of services you would need when you're traveling and these -- and the green book them by state and area, and then most people would use the green book in their trip and plan out a route that would allow them to stop at certain sites, go to certain stations, kind of a pre-travel planning. have it with them on the trip so they could make adju

oh there is a lot there it's a really address i mean talking about jim crow since when did a segregation in you know bank policies about lending equate to slavery i don't really understand but we talk about the government being here for many if we're going to blame the government and you a say well you got over bodies a laugh right right and even no nobody's allowed right now it's only nineteen that was a lot of bathing why not talk about the kingdom's open air natural light it down making them their whole empire the whole kingdom was based on exploiting sleighs less now for you we've all learned in school would that it was called the slave trade not to slave kidnap like slaves already right there procured by the africans to the arabs and density europeans so in some reparations why not go back to a gun in nigeria you benito go back in if i so excited and so that may pay us back the money we're talking about their government of the usa although nobody is alive they came from their particular points and made them are trying to incorporate other things that just happens to be oppressive we

ed landfills when i say predominantly black, these are all black communities that were created by jim crow. city of eight of the incinerators were located in black neighborhoods. three out of four landfills are located in black neighborhoods. the 1930'sumped from up to 1978, most of it was dumped into black neighborhoods, even though blacks make up only 20% of the population. it was the first environmental racism case that used civil rights law, challenging that this should not be sent to a disproportionate community while everybody produces garbage. this was way back in 1978. host: did you win? guest: we lost a lawsuit, but we won a war. this is a case where we showed was not environment somehow valued by all as the same. all communities are not created equal, that some are more equal than others. class or other, incinerators, refineries, or chemical compounds, et cetera for this is before there was a movement this is 1978 the environmental justice movement really took off in 1982 in warren county, north carolina, with the location of a toxic waste dump. mobilized,nized and five hundred p

, for example, and the legacies that jim crow already made possible. to get a more understanding of structural inequality. a lot of our politics and political conversation tries to push towards race neutrality and color blindness when we know from the evidence and from the history that still matters. part of what i think about reparations, if we can think of a good example of that political cartoon with two houses on fire and people are putting water on one that is not burning and not necessarily putting water on the the one that is. we have to investment into these communities and individuals that have been historically neglected because it's not just about equality. it's equity. that's distinct from equality. equity tries to make up for the historical gap. it's structured throughout society be it in residential segregation, mortgage first of all fraud, education inequality and so forth. even if reparations weren't given to individuals, we could make the case for how institutions could be targeted as well. >> i'm just going to play that back after we

his impact on north carolina, and how he navigated the jim crow era. this is about 20 minutes. >> reginald ellis, professor at florida a&m university, let's talk about this gentleman, the racial politics of james edward shepard. who was he? >> dr. shepard was an individual who was born and raised of a

the author of jim crow, ending racism in post racial america. thank you for joining us.te it. what's your reaction to our breaking news? >> the reaction is definitely want to appeal that ruling. i think the city is on strong ground. you appeal the ruling and see what a higher court says. >> what's interesting is when people say these are war monuments or this has to do with our history from the civil war the timing of when those statues were erected, that's very important, don't you think, because it was erected during jim crow. go on. >> many statues in the south were erected basically to oppose the civil rights movement, to oppose desegregation of schools. and that says it all right there. timing is very significant. is this stands for opposition to desegregation and to the united states supreme court ruling in brown versus board of education. >> the president says his response to charlottesville was perfection. you say that's why white nationalists see trump as one of their own. explain that. >> absolutely. the president said he had a perfect response but as a profess

again, he got jim crowed so many times. early on, he would act without rage and he would get thrown out of hotels and trains. later on, if he was stopped in the dining room of a hotel, this is in the north, and he was told you cannot eat in the dining room, you must eat in the kitchen. he was stand up and he would as loudly as he could, where do you feed your dog's, where are the dogs, i will each with the dogs. pretty soon everybody is coming to his aid. and they are saying, you know, mr. proprietor, let the man ate in the dining hall. no, i will eat with the dogs, where are they? pretty soon, the whole place, at lease the way he told it, the whole place was a chorus, let and eat here. it dinner not always work. it did not work on steamers. youyou are on a steamer and you have nowhere else to to go but down to the lower deck, you know. um, anyway. yeah, he had a kind of green book, without it being green. so -- thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon. that is my way of saying good afternoon. am the professor of politics at

douglass was jim crow-ed more times than he could ever count. and with time, he began to process it through humor. can i end on one quick story? ah, sure. [ laughter ] he got, again, jim crow-ed so many times. his earlier years, he's react with physical outrage, when he'd get thrown off trains or thrown out of hotels. later on, if he was stopped in a dining room of a hotel somewhere -- and this was in the north -- and he was told, you can't eat in the dining room, you must eat in the kitchen, he would often just stand up and as loudly in that booming bare i tone, as he could, where two you feed the dogs? i'll eat with the dogs. where are the dogs? and pretty soon, everybody in the dining hall is kind of coming to his aid. mr. proprietor, let the man eat in the dining hall. no. i'll eat with the dogs. it's all right. give me the dogs. where are they? and pretty soon the whole place is -- well, at least the way he told it. the whole place was a chorus, let him eat here. let him eat here, you know. it didn't always work. it didn't work on steamers.

we had decades of jim crow. we had legalized discrimination and segregation.we had de facto discrimination and segregation. and to believe or suggest that those years of treatment and abuse and violence and crimes did not have an impact is to overlook the facts of history. and for that reason i support the legislation. and what we need to do to think about specifically what it means in terms of the next steps. but i thank you for that question. >> senator, yes or no, do you support financial reparations? >> i support we study that. let's look at this, for example. one of the issues that is very clear is that trauma, years of trauma or even one experience with trauma can lead to lifelong consequences. i'm supporting some work, partisan work that started years ago of looking at children who are growing up in a community where there is violence and if you look at the associated then physical health effects associated with exposure to trauma and what that can mean in terms of physical disability, not to mention what it means in a child's ability to learn and be ed

but as you heard, gov, i liken these to jim crow laws, because i saw that as the same pernicious intentidify it at the local level so at least we're starting with a base, and then we'll try our luck, see how long we can keep it this way. how do you see it? >> yeah, no, i think you're totally right in terms of the purpose of these. they know that these laws are unconstitutional, and they've been struck down up to this point. but now they've got kavanaugh. if you want to know what the fight about kavanaugh was all about, this is it. they want a case, the right case to get to the supreme court which would overturn roe v. wade. let me just say one of the states under the microscope on this is georgia. and there was a senator in georgia who said we will reclaim our rights when we reclaim your seat, a woman, senator jen jordan. that is it. if you saw a lot of women getting mad in 2018. this goes to the supreme court, this is happening in these states. all of those pink hats are coming out again. and there is very little that makes women more angry than male politicians coming in to separate t

. >> the old jim crow is now a new jim crow. >> president trump is tearing the moral fabric of this country>> big ideas on how to fix it, with your tax money. in fact, it appeared no government program was too ambitious or too expensive for consideration. >> we are going to create a medicare for all single payer program. health care is a human right, not a privilege. >> i have proposed what will be the first in the history of our country, federal investment in closing teacher pay. >> if you are elected president and such a bill was passed, would you sign the bill for reparations. >>e in, i would. >> warren briefly mentioned taking the wealthiest americans and taxing them to pay for her plan to provide child care for free. sharpton pulled a full dozen 2020 hopefuls who praised the reverend, trashed the president, and lamented the gaps in black wealth and homeownership saying the stats that president trump pointed to don't matter. the inemployment rate for african-americans has dropped from 7.9% to 6.7% and average weekly income is up $37. if that's all that had happened, it would have done l

. >> field jim crow is no new jim crow. >> donald trump is tearing the moral fabric of this country apartdeas how to fix it with your tax money. no government program is too ambitious or expensive for consideration. >> we are going to create a medicare for all single-payer program, healthcare is a human right, not a privilege. >> i have proposed what will be the first in the history of our country federal investment. in teacher pay. >> if you are elected president in such a bill was passed would you sign the bill for reparations? >> yes i would. >> war and briefly mentioned taking the wealthiest americans and taxing them to pay for her plan to provide childcare for free. our sharpton drew a dozen 2020 hopefuls to universally praised him and lamented gaps in black wealth and homeownership saying stats donald trump pointed to don't matter, the unemployment rate forever, americans is dropped from 7.9%, to 6.7 and average weekly income is up $37 which is that all that happened at sharpton's convention it would do little to change the political conversation but the 2020 hopefuls were not the o

two brothers living in jacksonville florida which is a city under the yoke of jim crow and cosmopolitan even with jim crow with the most aggressive forms of racism also extraordinary flourishing schools are created so with they call the promise of reconstruction but also the incredible blossoming. so part of this led me that i understood they did not get the context why the song was important and i began to build an archive and where they have their papers with 27 odd documents i created an archive that was 27000 from the black cultural institutions so i looked at school programs and curriculum, short stories and what emerged is it was a song associated with socialization of children as figures who have a noble history and a sense of responsibility to the larger community and also either a daily or weekly practice of people staying to gather talking about in north carolina they would stand on the front porch every day when school began with hope and aspiration and highly connected to negro history week from negro history month so with that political significance of the song that wasn't

it was not the right way on jim crow. it was not the right way on the cold war. is not the right way against hitler. there are moments when one way is the right way to do. nine times out of 10, you can go 60-40 or 50-50. what has happened because of a number of structural factors is it is hard to get to the 50-50 point. i am basing this partly on talking to a lot of people in the arena. at some point you have to credit what they say. they say it is harder than it was 20 years ago to get things done. i will say newt gingrich. they will say, yeah, but -- if you had a house of representatives that was accountable to a diverse ideological group of voters, you would have ultimately better governing results because they would stop -- they would have less of a reason to be afraid of my favorite verb, being primaried. which i heard the first time about 10 years ago. the central concern most people have is they do not want to invite a primary challenge. the one thing i would do is if you could postage stamp the districts. it is not very sexy, but i think it would have a r

there's only one reason why the statues were put up, to support segregation and jim crow.message those statues are sending and that's the message donald trump is supporting and he also echoes a lot of the talking about points that you hear from white nationalists about how immigrants are invading us and how they're a major threat and oh, by the way, trump himself calls himself a nationalist. and so we know what he's doing here. he's basically playing this elaborate game where he condemns actual terrorist attacks, where he condemns anti semitism but he also, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, he also sends signals to the white nationalists he's really on their side. that's why i think you've seen such a surge of white nationalism extremism and anti semitic incidents and anti african-american incidents durlg h during his presidency. >> peter, i want to bring you in. on one hand the president offers, you know, a wink and a nod to white nationalists when he thinks it will help him and yet is rightfully horrified when something like this happens, at least in what he says afterwards. is

after jim crow they promoted under the guise of the so-called great society, promoted a dependency societycial mobility which had, actually, before the great society had been celebrated. trish: pretty good, no -- >> we were entering into the middle class. so it's ironic as heck that the democrats are promoting reparations. maybe the democratic party itself -- [laughter] trish: i guess, yeah, clearly. >> [inaudible] trish: david -- [laughter] i mean, part of the problem with this, and i think that niger hit the nail on the held when he said they promoted policies that effectively kept the african-american community dependent. you look at the native american community, for example, in the united states of america and the reservations that we set up where we gave them land and we gave them certain tax breaks and, unfortunately, in z many of those communities you see very, very high crime rates, you see a struggle still in those communities for people to adapt ask if to move into the middle class -- and to move into the middle class. if you ask me, the best thing you can give anybody, any mino

fought horrific gotten through massive depressions and in jordan the massive cruelty of slavery and jim crowu.s. was at its greatest when it admitted its mistakes and try to overcome them. -- and tried to overcome them. [applause] days of william mckinley, there was no white house press room. just a long table for reporters. one journalist complained. it was an unwritten law that newspaper men would approach the president. a rather royal conception of the presidency with no shouted questions. in those more innocent days, reporters shielded the lives of presidents. let me tell you how william harding got the nomination. party bosses summoned him to the herber really filled smoke room. they asked him if he had any damaging personal issues they should know about. whoing was a married man drink heavily and gambled freely. he had a 15 year affair with his best friend's wife and he had a mistress and an illegitimate baby in chicago. sat in theistress about any of the convention hall enjoying this speech is harding assured the party bosses that he could not think of a single problem they should wor

he ended the unspeakable cruelty of slavery and jim crow. america has always been at its greatest when it admitted its mistakes and saw to overcome them. -- sought to overcome them. [applause] >> let me move on to the press in the 20th century. back in the day of william mckinley, there was a long table and reporters on the second floor. one journalist complains, it is part of the law of the white house that newspaper men should never approach the president as he passes unless he himself stops and talks to them. those were innocent days. reporters shielded the private presidents. harding, a married man, drink heavily and gambled freely. he had a 15 year affair with his best friend's wife and the mistress and an illegitimate baby right there in chicago. theyoung mistress sat in balcony of the convention hall to join the speeches. party bossesed the he could not think of a single personal problem to worry about. [laughter] >> of course, the press would grow bigger as the century theressed in relations with white house. they would grow more acc

very successful counter civil rights movement that has led to what michelle alexander calls new jim crow. it is not a linear process, to be sure. the most significant change comes from below. relationship building is key. we have studies. if you know someone of a different religion, you are much less likely to be prejudiced toward that community. if i have a personal relationship with someone who is jewish, i am less likely to be anti-semitic. there are caveats to that and that has to do with whether me being less anti-semitic translates into political action . how do you affect individual change when individuals are changing their opinions, but policies are not changing? has traveledho around the united states and abroad on this issue, the most successful instance since i have seen a pushing back against islamophobia in a political sense have come from coalitions that include muslims as significant partners and have been around not for a few years, but decades and have really established deep roots in the community and been doing this work long-term. few audience want me to talk about t

. >> reporter: in america, our racial divisions lie under the spectre of slavery and jim crow. in south africa, the ghost of another, fresher horror. apartheid, which ended just over 20 years ago. it's a country that's long-solved its problems with violence. ♪ >> reporter: but with the inauguration of nelson pandmand came new hope. the man with the audacity to become president. >> let's say to them, we are all south africans. >> reporter: now that mandela is gone, his beloved south african congress tarnished by corruption. the winds of discontent that whisk around the world have reached this rainbow nation. a divide between black and white deepening again. >> land was forcibly taken from the african, indigenous people. we should be ready to confront the enemy and fight for our country. >> reporter: as bernadette hall sees it, she was victimized once by killers and thieves, now by her government. >> that wouldn't be fair. i mean, i legally bought this farm. i worked to be able to do that. now you come in, you take this farm, and i've got to disappear. where have i got to go to?

been a successful counter civil rights movement that existed that led to what is called the new jim crow. is not a linear process to be sure. i think the most significant change comes from below. i agree that relationship building is key. we have studies on this, if you know someone of a different religion from your own, you are much less likely to be prejudiced against that community. if i know someone who is jewish, i am less likely to be anti-semitic. there are caveats to those studies and a lot of it has to do with me being less anti-semitic, if it translates into significant political action. how do you affect political change when individuals are changing their opinions the policies are not changing? had we challenge that into political movements? as a someone who has traveled around the united states and abroad on this topic, the most successful instances i have seen of pushing back against islamophobia effectively in the political sense have come from coalitions that include partners that have been around not for a few years but easily for decades. they have really established de

below and a bus boycott in montgomery, alabama, that hit people where it hurts who benefitted from jim crow in terms of the economic side and spread and got more organized. of course, there has been, since the 1960s, a very successful counter civil rights movement that has existed that has led to what michelle alexander calls, a new jim crow and it is not a linear process to be sure. but i think the most significant change comes from the low. i definitely agree. relationship building is key. we do have studies on this, if you know someone of a different religion than your own, you're much less likely to be prejudiced toward that community. if i know someone, have a personal relationship with jewish, i'm less likely to be anti-semitic. there are caveats to those studies and theories and a lot of it has to do with me being less anti-semitic translates into significant political action, how do you effect political change, when individuals are changing their opinions about the communities but the policies are not changing. so it has to be plugged into, channeled into political movements. as som

want to jim crow laws or they started trying to say oh well these people are just as good as equals will go ahead of years of trying. to drill for morning with the white man and still have them cheap if you should be allowed to rob and steal and racing feeling. worse. yes. i. believe that is not. every black person in america is not trying disaster. the team for seniors got older generation black people actually one of you were. to their health and proud of their employees they don't like their kids and this racing league is going on and they're disgusted by it and for the new generations they have no morals latest ones they don't care if the chief when they have a house they don't carry is not. where the home baby mommas palin encouraged me and you know they know that they're great and generous change they don't care if. this is same here i'm in a blacks here want to run the system as much as they can they don't want to do nothing i mean they actually were from new york they'll tell you something's going on up there i mean they want to sit on section eight housing and not work and that'

want to jim crow laws are they so very proud to say that all of these people are just as good as are equals will go ahead of years of trying the brazil forewarning with the white man and still have them cheated you should be allowed to rob and steal and feeling. worse. yes. i. believe that is not. every black person in america is not trying the system of their life the team for seniors got older generation black people actually were you were. to their health and proud of their employer they don't like their kids and the racing which is going on and they're disgusted by it and for the new generations they have no morals latest ones they don't care if the chief when they have a house there is nothing where they call baby mommas palin encouraged me and you know they know that they're getting government change they don't care. this is same here i'm in a blacks here want to round the system as much as they can they don't want to do nothing i mean they actually were from new york they'll tell you something's going on up there i mean they want to sit on section eight housing and not work an

judges appointed by president icen hour -- eisenhower interfering with segregation policies in the jim crowe south. when he became judiciary committee chairman, ted kennedy restored blue slips to their historical purpose of ensuring consultation as opposed to serving as a one-member veto of a qualified judicial nominee. so all we have done is restore blue slips for circuit court nominees to the consultative function they played for most of their history. i've been here under presidents of both parties. they do not defer to us on circuit court judges. we don't get to pick them. and you know we almost do get to pick them when they're district court judges and we are of the same party as the white house. and we have a lot of clout because the chairman honor the blue slip for district court judges. they're entirely contained within our states. and none of them get out here on the floor unless the senators approve them. 47 of these guys over here are not toothless when it comes to district judges. so this is not a bad day for the senate. this is a day we end this completely outrageous level of in

they're living in jacksonville florida which is a city that is under the beginning of jim crow and cosmopolitan and international. and they are part of this moment of extreme even as the most aggressive forms of racism are being enacted in the u.s. south literature, arts et cetera. so her story that's there. the promise of reconstruction is dashed and there is total devastation there is also this incredible blossoming. part of what this all led me to is i understood that people actually didn't get the context and why the song was important i began to build an archive i knew the story of the song wasn't where the collections of the composers and writers were. there's about 20 some odd documents there. as opposed to the lives of the author and composer. and what emerges is is a song that became associated both with socialization of children to have a sense of themselves as figures who have a noble history. socialize them in the sense to have the sense of responsibility. also it was either a daily or weekly practice whereby people sang together. they talk about living in the rural chi rack south c

he wrote those words at a time that reconstruction was nearly diminished by jim crow violence. the black soldiers in the western theater represented an array of experiences, but each of them served with a measured hope and genuine concern for liberty and citizenship on the basis of the quality. -- of equality. [applause] questions? the singletonl, memoir sounds fascinating and i don't think it is well-known known by historians. can you tell us a little more about singleton, his life, when the memoir was published, where we can access it? memoir, ingleton's think it was 1922 that it was published. singleton is very interesting because he begins his memoir in slavery and talking about his own resistance. he had run away from his master several times before he finally actually returned to his original slaveowner. but he had experienced kind of hiding out, really understanding the landscape. reading that memoir kind of illuminates that experience in ways that we haven't really appreciated in the context of war. it also helps us see that in these pockets throughout the war where the

this was important under the 1950 jim crow laws was prevented african-americans from going to certainces. so the green book offered a guide to give people a vice of where they could go. start off in new york city. victor green is the publisher of the green book and founder. he got the idea of traveling the new york city area trying to figure out the best locations he could have, and realized african-americans were already in the places they would go. so this just became a more laid down version of that. differentbook lists places that african-americans could get service. anywhere from hotels to get stations to restaurants. different services you would need when traveling. the green book would just list them by state in the area. most people use it in advance of their trip and plan out a route where they could go to certain gas stations, pre-travel planning. they could make adjustments to their trip. >> it is a matter of survival. you were told you didn't go certain places. a white place, you did not go anyway. they'd make sure you didn't appear there were signs on the door, saying whi

racial issues on the back burner and showed little interest in upsetting the racial status quo in the jim crow south. feeling the political pressure of white southerners, roosevelt refused to give his support to the federal antilynching law emerged by some members of congress. he also referred to think about lincoln in a race neutral way. as someone who practiced a broad-based humanitarianism that helped all people. lincoln, fdr insisted, was an emancipator not of slaves alone but of those of heavy heart everywhere. sure this is not have people in the 1860's would have interpreted the emancipation. [laughter] they worked hard to redefine slavery as a condition that affected white people as much as black. sometimes in fact whites seemed to suffer more from slavery than african-americans. the 1930's was mainly about the economic thattation and constraint largely affected wage workers, the majority of whom were white area despite the fact that all of our people are free and have the right to live enforce the they please, there are many who intend that our toilers live virtual economic slavery. th

african americans in their white allies said together, we are going to end racism and segregation and jim crown america. [cheers and applause] and i look at health care as a human right in the same way as i look at the women's movement, where women stood up and fought back and said we will not be second-class citizens. [cheers and applause] and i look at medicare for all in the same way as i look at the struggles of the gay movement, when the gay community said we are sick and tired of being discriminated against and we will love whoever we choose regardless of their gender. [cheers and applause] fight fors that the medicare for all, the fight for health care, is a human right, is a struggle that has got to take place at the grassroots level, because when millions of people stand up and say, you know what, i am entitled to health care, my kids are entitled to health care, my disabled friends are entitled to health care, and every american is entitled to health care --, when millions of people stand up believe me, the united states congress will hear them. [cheers and applause] and when we talk

the reconciliation there is done atop the carcass of jim crow. veteransthese way to together to get along that well. that is one of the things that has brought them together. .he germans being part of this were the part of commemorations in 1964? not to my knowledge. such, and also the french memory. french memory which is very different than the americans. paid a heavyrench price for liberation even if it didn't always mean soldiers fighting at the front. it meant the destruction of homes and civilians and their infrastructure. they will tend to remember this differently. reconciliation seems to represent everyone coming to terms with what we can agree on and perhaps not lately discuss them. we're not going to discuss the 12th ss and the hitler's youth not the fanatics. we will discuss the german sacrifice for people fighting for their country. just as others were. i think that is one thing when we talk about the memory of warfare which is a little uncomfortable at times but it always seems to include politics. could ask a follow-up, what do you

african-americans only african-americans were red line for a bit in from well not just only but for it were jim jim crow as you know now with some policies or some things because i don't know just quickly then finally to. those struggling communities in america below the poverty line with rampant crime if however it's packaged up if there was a chance of investment or money coming in to try and get those people out of poverty you would say no because it looks like a political token. it's a political game it won't happen first of all he came pain promise there are plenty of government programs out there data given to these low income communities they're not used properly really what it does he keep these communities in a dependent state and unable to never able to get out if you like ms everett and say we've been beholden to the democratic party for a long while fifty years or more with no positive results in a year nine hundred sixty we had eighty percent superior how so ray in one nine hundred sixty during all of these races medication what is the name now we have nearly a seventy three percent single

horrific wars, weathered massive depressions, and and or the unspeakable cruelty of slavery and jim crow. america has always been at its greatest not when it blustered, but when it admitted its mistakes and soft to overcome them. to overcome them. [applause] let me move on to the presidents and the press in the 20th century. back in the days of william mckinley, there was no white house press room, just a room for reporters on the second floor. as one journalist complained -- it is part of the law of the white house that newspaper men shall never approach of the president as he passes a mess he himself stops and talks to them. a rather royal conception of the presidency with no shouted questions allowed. innocent days. let me tell you how warren harding got the republican nomination in 1920. party bosses summoned him to the proverbial smoke-filled room in chicago, and asked him point-blank if he had any damaging personal issues they should know about. now harding, a married man, drank heavily and gambled freely. he had had a 15 year affair with his best friend's wife, and he had a mistre

many people in america have that we are making progress in civil rights but all of a sudden when jim crow and the heat of the land causes the deaths of four children in a church on a day of worship then all of a sudden you cross that line. unfortunately we crossed it but it wa was positive that we made good changes and we will do. >> host: thank you, >> guest: thank you it's my pleasure. >>> you are watching the tv on c-span2. for a complete television scheduled visit tv.org you can also follow behind the scenes on social media and booktv on twitter, facebook. >>> next one book tv "after words," george details his role in the trump presidential campaign and the russia investigation. he is interviewed by justice department reporter for "the wall street journal." "after words" is a weekly interview program of public and guest hosts interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest works. >>> thanks for being here. let's jump right into it. your name became known to the world of october 2017 when the special counsel robert mueller announced that it had agreed to plead guilty to lying to

this is a mistaken statutory interpretation use for 153 years as part of the jim crow system to suppress the votes of african americans. bernie sanders should've the claim what he meant, i'm not a sanders supported but he is constitutionally correct. if you believe in the constitution you know that the right to vote is -- based upon that he is correct in his assertion that we should restore voting rights to individuals convicted of felonies. shannon: a piece in the new york times says as it stands incarcerated people reading a variety of rights, freedom of force up, they can exercise free-speech rights like writing for newspapers, magazines and other publications rejuvenating the political system needs the perspective of prisoners. what do you make of that opinion piece? >> the perspectives of prisoners are being well represented by democrats running for president. they do a really good job representing that wing of our society. i think most americans including many democrats believe it is fair that when you are serving time for a crime for which you have been duly convicted you lose man

claim their role was to eliminate jim crow and segregation.hey are a serial inflamer of their opponents. >> tucker: what about media matters who coordinated with the hillary clinton for president campaign in violation of tax laws but they retain their status. >> tax exempt charities should not coordinate in any political activity. that says something about the southern poverty law center that they hired the jussie smollett fixer and michelle obama's former chief of staff to take advantage of the $500 million they have and form a super pac to attack the president next year in the election. >> tucker: there is no body that can audit them? >> it needs an audit very badly. i open the irs will do that and unveil to the american people that the southern poverty law center is nothing but a racket. it slanders political opponents. >> tucker: the irs was caught under president obama hurting conservatives for political reasons and no one was punished for that. can you get them to pay attention to your request? >> i hope we can. the letter i sent today i

with 100 years of segregation and jim crow. he didn't stated in that way but he was aware of it and he positioned himself to make a difference. unfortunately, he was assassinated. but president lyndon johnson took over after that and bought two solution some of the bills that president kennedy had introduced. >> before working, before going to columbia university you had worked for the black press right? >> i work from us for years in the black press. >> what was the difference now, you said that you wanted to go to what we call the white press, the mainstream because you thought that is the beach true you could help seein change the perception to african-americans to white americans for you that you can make a difference in how african-americans were perceived. what was the difference in how you approach your work as a journalist ? >> the black press really help me understand the role of journalism in a deep way. and that was because the way black reporters for the black press actually covered the south. they were willing to r